Is there any way to redraw the screen without zooming in or out?
Often, frameless text objects will distort when moving them around.
The zooming works, but a key combo would be nicer.

Running Pagestream3.4 on an A4000.

Greg

Hiya, on Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:10:26 -0800,
Greg Reyna wrote about *"[PageStreamSupport] redraw".*

> Is there any way to redraw the screen without zooming in or out?

F10 works fine on my Amiga system ;)

PGS4r7.

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G'day Greg Reyna,

On the subject of "[PageStreamSupport] redraw", you spoke thus:

> Is there any way to redraw the screen without zooming in or out?
> Often, frameless text objects will distort when moving them around.
> The zooming works, but a key combo would be nicer.
>

Press F10.

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On 29-Jun-00, Greg Reyna wrote:
>Is there any way to redraw the screen without zooming in or out?

There's a screen update macro. It is in the script pallette that comes with
pgs.
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Hey there, Rev. Giark To You

On 30-Jun-00, Rev. Giark To You wrote:
> On 29-Jun-00, Greg Reyna wrote:
>> Is there any way to redraw the screen without zooming in or out?
>
> There's a screen update macro. It is in the script pallette that
comes with
> pgs.

And you can put a macro icon on your toolbar to activate it.

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On 30-Jun-00, David L. Stevens wrote:

> Hey there, Rev. Giark To You
>
> On 30-Jun-00, Rev. Giark To You wrote:
>> On 29-Jun-00, Greg Reyna wrote:
>>> Is there any way to redraw the screen without zooming in or out?
>>
>> There's a screen update macro. It is in the script pallette that
> comes with
>> pgs.
>
> And you can put a macro icon on your toolbar to activate it.

I tried F10 but find that after using it a couple of times the Amiga
freezes up forcing a reboot. Does this happen to anyone else?
I'm running Pagestream 3.4 on a Directory Opus Magellan II Workbench,
on this A4000, WarpEngine with a Retina Z3 and CyberGraphX4.

Greg

On 16-Jul-00, Greg Reyna wrote:
>>>> Is there any way to redraw the screen without zooming in or out?
>I tried F10 but find that after using it a couple of times the Amiga
>freezes up forcing a reboot. Does this happen to anyone else?
>I'm running Pagestream 3.4 on a Directory Opus Magellan II Workbench,
>on this A4000, WarpEngine with a Retina Z3 and CyberGraphX4.

I've never had any trouble with that, but I have had a few lockups when
scrolling the screen. Are you using mcp's redraw patch? fblit?

Well met and godspeed,
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Greg,

>I tried F10 but find that after using it a couple of times the Amiga
>freezes up forcing a reboot. Does this happen to anyone else?
>I'm running Pagestream 3.4 on a Directory Opus Magellan II Workbench,
>on this A4000, WarpEngine with a Retina Z3 and CyberGraphX4.

Could be Dopus or CGX ??? I can use it repeatedly here with no problem
on either the 1000 or 4000, but the 4000 is not running Dopus and runs
on Picasso 96 with a PIV.

Paul Zager

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Hello Paul Zager on 16-Jul-00 19:34:24 you said

>>I tried F10 but find that after using it a couple of times the Amiga
>>freezes up forcing a reboot. Does this happen to anyone else?
>>I'm running Pagestream 3.4 on a Directory Opus Magellan II Workbench,
>>on this A4000, WarpEngine with a Retina Z3 and CyberGraphX4.

>Could be Dopus or CGX ??? I can use it repeatedly here with no problem
>on either the 1000 or 4000, but the 4000 is not running Dopus and runs
>on Picasso 96 with a PIV.

I have no problems with repeatedly using the F10 screen refresh in PGS4 using
DOpus Magellan as WB replacement on an A4000 with P96 on a PIV.

As I understand it from Deron the only difference between PGS3.4 and PGS4 is
that the former uses exactly the same code but without the extra 'twiddley
bits' compiled in. So our PGS4 experience should be relevant to Greg's problem

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On 16-Jul-00,* Greg Reyna*, of Planet Eros, wrote these Wise Words:

> I tried F10 but find that after using it a couple of times the Amiga
> freezes up forcing a reboot. Does this happen to anyone else? I'm
> running Pagestream 3.4 on a Directory Opus Magellan II Workbench, on
> this A4000, WarpEngine with a Retina Z3 and CyberGraphX4.

PageStream freezes up for me a lot... especially during a save.
When I reboot, the "newest" version has not been saved. This
happens about every fifth time I use PageStream3.4... it is NOT
consistent, other than it happens when I am using the menu.

Gil

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G'day Gil

On 20-Jul-00, Gil Knutson wrote:
> On 16-Jul-00,* Greg Reyna*, of Planet Eros, wrote these Wise Words:
>
>> I tried F10 but find that after using it a couple of times the Amiga
>> freezes up forcing a reboot. Does this happen to anyone else? I'm
>> running Pagestream 3.4 on a Directory Opus Magellan II Workbench, on
>> this A4000, WarpEngine with a Retina Z3 and CyberGraphX4.
>
> PageStream freezes up for me a lot... especially during a save.
> When I reboot, the "newest" version has not been saved. This
> happens about every fifth time I use PageStream3.4... it is NOT
> consistent, other than it happens when I am using the menu.

I still use PGS 3.4r4 and I have very little, if anything, in the way of
lockups. Using F10 is no problem at all.

My computer at the office is an A4000/040-25 with a Spectrum running
CyberGraphX4. The computer I have at home is a towered A1200/060-50 AGA.

PGS gets used heaps on both computers and as I said I really don't have a
problem with lock-ups. I don't have a lot of hacks running, maybe that is
it. I don't know.

Regards

Alan Hughes
Melbourne, Australia

On 19-Jul-00, Gil Knutson wrote:

> On 16-Jul-00,* Greg Reyna*, of Planet Eros, wrote these Wise Words:
>
>> I tried F10 but find that after using it a couple of times the Amiga
>> freezes up forcing a reboot. Does this happen to anyone else? I'm
>> running Pagestream 3.4 on a Directory Opus Magellan II Workbench, on
>> this A4000, WarpEngine with a Retina Z3 and CyberGraphX4.
>
> PageStream freezes up for me a lot... especially during a save.
> When I reboot, the "newest" version has not been saved. This
> happens about every fifth time I use PageStream3.4... it is NOT
> consistent, other than it happens when I am using the menu.
>
> Gil
>

Do you run it on its own screen? When I get a chance I'm going to give
that a try. I have always run it on the Workbench.

Greg

On 20-Jul-00,* alandot@netdocs.com*, of Planet Eros, wrote these Wise Words:

>
> PGS gets used heaps on both computers and as I said I really don't
> have a problem with lock-ups. I don't have a lot of hacks running,
> maybe that is it. I don't know.

Probably the cause. I DO have a number of hacks installed.
But, I have deleted them and still had problems. I have
added them one at a time and seen no change. Needless to
say, I haven't a clue, but then, what else is new??? : ))

Gil

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On 20-Jul-00,* Greg Reyna*, of Planet Eros, wrote these Wise Words:

>> PageStream freezes up for me a lot... especially during a save.
>> When I reboot, the "newest" version has not been saved. This
>> happens about every fifth time I use PageStream3.4... it is NOT
>> consistent, other than it happens when I am using the menu.
>>
>> Gil
>>
>
> Do you run it on its own screen? When I get a chance I'm going to
> give that a try. I have always run it on the Workbench.

I wondered about whether or not it was because of the shared
screens, do I have gone to PageStream having its own screen.
No difference. I DO have to say that since I took out
Magic Menu I have had LESS lockups, but only about half as
many. I still get them almost daily. Sometimes, as in last
night, every fourth or fifth time I saved a document, I had
a freeze... and the "new" version would not be saved.

A little frustrating, but I am learning to save more often
and do less changes before I save. Slows down production,
but at least it is "safe". : )))

Gil
>
>
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Hello Gil

On 20-Jul-00, Gil Knutson wrote:
> A little frustrating, but I am learning to save more often
> and do less changes before I save. Slows down production,
> but at least it is "safe". : )))

Seems like you are having really nightmares... If I would be you, I'll
reinstall: AmigaOS from stratch, then clean StartUP seq. and again reinstall
PageStream. It will definitelly help.
I had a lots of problems with OS3.5 and I found at the end - what it was:

I had in LIBS: directory 'datatypes'. When I deleted it, everything is working
perfectly now.

If you think to install OS3.5, from CD install 3.1 and THEN over it, 3.5 [make
a backUP of whole partition to another]...

It must work, believe me I had horrible problems, all because datatypes...

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In a message of 20-Jul-00 Gil Knutson wrote:

> A little frustrating, but I am learning to save more often
> and do less changes before I save. Slows down production,
> but at least it is "safe". : )))

I don't know what can be the cause of your problems. Personally I
have no such problems using PageStream. Do remember that both
MagicMenu and especially MCP and their patches often is the cause
of many problems.

Try running PGS from a clean OS install, and then expand from there.

Uffe Holst

On 20-Jul-00,* Uffe Holst*, of Planet Eros, wrote these Wise Words:

> Do remember that both
> MagicMenu and especially MCP and their patches often is the cause
> of many problems.

And, I have neither running because of that situation. : (

> Try running PGS from a clean OS install, and then expand from there.

I did, but the OS was so boring I just had to add things... ;)

Gil

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On 20-Jul-00,* DJNick*, of Planet Eros, wrote these Wise Words:

> Seems like you are having really nightmares...

Yeah. Sometimes the air turns blue around here... ))

> If I would be you,
> I'll reinstall: AmigaOS from stratch, then clean StartUP seq. and
> again reinstall PageStream.

Have done both those things... twice. No change. : /

> It will definitelly help.

Nope.

> I had in LIBS: directory 'datatypes'. When I deleted it, everything
> is working perfectly now.

Nope. I don't have that in my LIBS:... : (
>
> If you think to install OS3.5, from CD install 3.1 and THEN over it,
> 3.5 [make a backUP of whole partition to another]...

As I said, I have gone that route. No change.

> It must work, believe me I had horrible problems, all because
> datatypes...

Well, I just have problems... : /

Still, like my Daddy used to say, "Every dog needs fleas!". I
guess these are MY kind of flea..... : )

Gil

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On 20-Jul-00,* Uffe Holst*, of Planet Eros, wrote these Wise Words:

> I don't know what can be the cause of your problems. Personally I
> have no such problems using PageStream. Do remember that both
> MagicMenu and especially MCP and their patches often is the cause
> of many problems.

I have neither running.

> Try running PGS from a clean OS install, and then expand from there.

With a clean, freshly installed 3.1, it still happened... but a
lot less often. However, Workbench was SO ugly, I just had to
spruce it up a bit... : )))

Gil

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