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2000-07-03 15:31:04 CT #1
Geoffrey Gass
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On Sun, 02 Jul 2000, Peter Coates wrote:

>> ...I'm using Vagrounded PS font and I entered
>> guillemots (alt-9 and alt-0), and on screen they appear as they
>> should, but when I print to postscript through TP, I get a totally
>> different pair of characters printed on paper where the guillemots
>> should be.


>I just tried some other postscript fonts, and they behave the same way.
>One even went so far as to not even have a regular quote character
>(ascii 34)!

If you have "smart quotes" set in your preferences, you can't even get
"typewriter" quotes from a font that doesn't have left and right
double quotes. You can get the typewriter quotes by way of the CTRL/Z
requester, or via CTRL/D 00034, without having to delete the "smart
quotes" selection in Preferences.

There is a version of Vagrounded Thin on the CD-ROM /Just Fonts/ which
does have left and right guillemot characters, but no left and right
typographical quotes. However, the apostrophe is slanted, and a pair of
them looks about the same as the "typographic" double quotes in the fonts
from the better houses (see below). That version of Vagrounded may still
be available from the Aminet sites. With this font (created by ZSoft's
SoftType) the guillemot characters are in the right positions for
PostScript output.

To get a first-class copy of Vagrounded from one of the major
houses like Adobe, Bitstream or Linotype-Hell, it will cost you about
$30 (US), or a little less per font if you get all four styles.

At one or two steps back from the first-class foundries, VAG Rounded
is available in four styles on the Key Fonts Pro CD-ROM from SoftKey
(some 1550 fonts on that CD, with a Southern Software Inc copyright).
These fonts have single and double guillemot and single and double
"typographic" quotes. However, the left and right typographic quotes
are identical -- they both slant the same way (that's part of the
original Vag Rounded design). The "typewriter" quotes are straight
vertical.

A knockoff of Vag Rounded called Vagabond is available on Wayzata's
Font Pro Volume 1 "Essentials" CD-ROM, in two styles. As above, the
left and right typographic quotes slant the same way. These fonts
are copyright by W.S.I. (whoever that is); the CD is from Wayzata
Technology, Inc., in Minnesota. You get just 125 fonts for your money
here.

The above collections used to sell for around $20, and do generally
give you a complete extended character set.

For punctuation marks and some symbols which do not carry very much of
the unique characteristics of a font, you can sometimes substitute the
characters out of another font: highlight the little gap where the
proper character failed to show, and change the font to one that does
have the required character. This won't work for accented characters,
of course, but it will cover a lot of the cases requiring a quick-
and-dirty fix...

--Geoff

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ggass@teleport.com Geoffrey A. Gass Foulecourt Press

2000-07-04 11:07:06 CT #2

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Hello Geoffrey

On 03-Jul-00, Geoffrey Gass wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Jul 2000, Peter Coates wrote:

>>> ...I'm using Vagrounded PS font and I entered
>>> guillemots (alt-9 and alt-0), and on screen they appear as they
>>> should, but when I print to postscript through TP, I get a totally
>>> different pair of characters printed on paper where the guillemots
>>> should be.


>> I just tried some other postscript fonts, and they behave the same way.
>> One even went so far as to not even have a regular quote character
>> (ascii 34)!

> If you have "smart quotes" set in your preferences, you can't even get
> "typewriter" quotes from a font that doesn't have left and right
> double quotes. You can get the typewriter quotes by way of the CTRL/Z
> requester, or via CTRL/D 00034, without having to delete the "smart
> quotes" selection in Preferences.

Actually this particular font had no character 34! Even in the CTRL-Z map.
From my monkeying around with vagrounded PS, with smart quotes turned on, it
seems PGS adds a duplicate of character 34 to the character locations of
smart left and smart right. This is why they print on screen, but not on
paper, as they're actually not part of the font file. That's my guess.


> There is a version of Vagrounded Thin on the CD-ROM /Just Fonts/ which
> does have left and right guillemot characters, but no left and right
> typographical quotes. However, the apostrophe is slanted, and a pair of
> them looks about the same as the "typographic" double quotes in the fonts
> from the better houses (see below). That version of Vagrounded may still
> be available from the Aminet sites. With this font (created by ZSoft's
> SoftType) the guillemot characters are in the right positions for
> PostScript output.

Thanks for all this great info, Geoff. You've really done your homework!


Regards
--
Peter Coates
Waterloo, Ontario
*CANADA*
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*A3000 OS3.1 Cybervision Warpengine 040 40 Mb Ram*


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