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2012-09-06 07:49:10 CT	#1
rickbuxton From: Unknown Registered: 2012-06-24 Posts: 11	So many problems seem to stem from the PageStream ini file. I have solved problems in the past by deleting the file - once I can find it. I don't pretend to know anything about programming, but would it be possible, in future, to keep all of PageStream's files in the PageStream folder - I believe the Amiga version from 100 years ago kept all the related files in one place. With such an arrangement, you could have multiple versions of PageStream, each in their own folder including the ini and other related files. Just a thought. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

2012-09-06 07:49:10 CT

rickbuxton
From: Unknown
Registered: 2012-06-24
Posts: 11

So many problems seem to stem from the PageStream ini file. I have solved problems in the past by deleting the file - once I can find it. I don't pretend to know anything about programming, but would it be possible, in future, to keep all of PageStream's files in the PageStream folder - I believe the Amiga version from 100 years ago kept all the related files in one place.

With such an arrangement, you could have multiple versions of PageStream, each in their own folder including the ini and other related files.

Just a thought.

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2012-09-06 10:52:30 CT	#2
admfubar From: Unknown Registered: 2011-11-19 Posts: 198	Generally the place for such files are placed according to the conventions of the os being used. there may be a problem with placing the .ini in the pagestream install directory as that could be copyrighted, or even patented... all sorts of wacky conventions get these "protections". On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:49:10 -0400, Rick Buxton <rickbuxton@yahoo.com> wrote: > > So many problems seem to stem from the PageStream ini file. I have solved problems in the past by deleting the file - once I can find it. I don't pretend to know anything >about programming, but would it be possible, in future, to keep all of PageStream's files in the PageStream folder - I believe the Amiga version from 100 years ago kept all >the related files in one place. > > With such an arrangement, you could have multiple versions of PageStream, each in their own folder including the ini and other related files. > > Just a thought. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

2012-09-06 10:52:30 CT

admfubar
From: Unknown
Registered: 2011-11-19
Posts: 198

Generally the place for such files are placed according to the conventions of the os being used. there may be a problem with placing the .ini in the pagestream install directory as that could be copyrighted, or even patented... all sorts of wacky conventions get these "protections".

On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:49:10 -0400, Rick Buxton <rickbuxton@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> So many problems seem to stem from the PageStream ini file. I have solved problems in the past by deleting the file - once I can find it. I don't pretend to know anything >about programming, but would it be possible, in future, to keep all of PageStream's files in the PageStream folder - I believe the Amiga version from 100 years ago kept all >the related files in one place.
>
> With such an arrangement, you could have multiple versions of PageStream, each in their own folder including the ini and other related files.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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2012-09-06 17:17:59 CT	#3
T.J. Zweers From: Netherlands Registered: 2006-02-07 Posts: 331	I don't think this approach has a 'protection'. I hate those software wars from Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, etc., at the court. The main advantage is that you can have different versions of PGS working, and all have the same info (what documents you opened, what menu's you use in the toolbar, what palettes you use and where they are, etc). You can add a new PGS version, PageStream 5.6 (does not exist, yet), and all is familiar. The disadvantage is that when PGS goes wacko when (or before) closing (quit PGS), the wrong info is stored in PageStream5.ini (prefs). When you start PGS again, all kind of stuff is keeping you from working, unless you know where to look in the PageStream5.ini. Or simply delete PageStream5.ini. Then PGS starts OK again. So the approach has it advantages, and sometimes (!) a disadvantage. And then we are there to save you. Theo Op 6-9-2012 16:52, admfubar@gmail.com schreef: > Generally the place for such files are placed according to the conventions of the os being used. there may be a problem with placing the .ini in the pagestream install directory as that could be copyrighted, or even patented... all sorts of wacky conventions get these "protections". > > > On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:49:10 -0400, Rick Buxton <rickbuxton@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> So many problems seem to stem from the PageStream ini file. I have solved problems in the past by deleting the file - once I can find it. I don't pretend to know anything >about programming, but would it be possible, in future, to keep all of PageStream's files in the PageStream folder - I believe the Amiga version from 100 years ago kept all >the related files in one place. >> >> With such an arrangement, you could have multiple versions of PageStream, each in their own folder including the ini and other related files. >> >> Just a thought. >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> -- PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.3 and PySide 1.1.1 (all 32 bits, unless stated otherwise) AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM

2012-09-06 17:17:59 CT

T.J. Zweers
From: Netherlands
Registered: 2006-02-07
Posts: 331

I don't think this approach has a 'protection'. I hate those software
wars from Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, etc., at the court.

The main advantage is that you can have different versions of PGS
working, and all have the same info (what documents you opened, what
menu's you use in the toolbar, what palettes you use and where they are,
etc). You can add a new PGS version, PageStream 5.6 (does not exist,
yet), and all is familiar.

The disadvantage is that when PGS goes wacko when (or before) closing
(quit PGS), the wrong info is stored in PageStream5.ini (prefs).
When you start PGS again, all kind of stuff is keeping you from working,
unless you know where to look in the PageStream5.ini. Or simply delete
PageStream5.ini. Then PGS starts OK again.

So the approach has it advantages, and sometimes (!) a disadvantage. And
then we are there to save you. Wink

Theo

Op 6-9-2012 16:52, admfubar@gmail.com schreef:
> Generally the place for such files are placed according to the conventions of the os being used. there may be a problem with placing the .ini in the pagestream install directory as that could be copyrighted, or even patented... all sorts of wacky conventions get these "protections".
>
>
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:49:10 -0400, Rick Buxton <rickbuxton@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> So many problems seem to stem from the PageStream ini file. I have solved problems in the past by deleting the file - once I can find it. I don't pretend to know anything >about programming, but would it be possible, in future, to keep all of PageStream's files in the PageStream folder - I believe the Amiga version from 100 years ago kept all >the related files in one place.
>>
>> With such an arrangement, you could have multiple versions of PageStream, each in their own folder including the ini and other related files.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
--
PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.3 and PySide 1.1.1 (all 32 bits, unless stated otherwise)
AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM

2012-09-06 10:30:31 CT	#4
Tim Doty From: United States Registered: 2006-02-06 Posts: 2939	On 09/06/2012 09:49 AM, Rick Buxton wrote: > So many problems seem to stem from the PageStream ini file. I have > solved problems in the past by deleting the file - once I can find it. I > don't pretend to know anything about programming, but would it be > possible, in future, to keep all of PageStream's files in the PageStream > folder - I believe the Amiga version from 100 years ago kept all the > related files in one place. The Amiga also had no conception of multiple users or of security. Putting the configuration file in the program directory is a problem on some operating systems, such as Windows. > With such an arrangement, you could have multiple versions of > PageStream, each in their own folder including the ini and other related > files. Its possible to get more complicated to try and support such an arrangement, but the problem is suiting everyone. For a 'mobile' application it would make sense to store the ini in the application folder, but one advantage of the current scheme is when I download a new version it already has all of my settings, including the registration information. Frankly, trying to balance things is more work than I think is warranted, but it is a valid suggestion and one that Deron may choose to take action on. Tim Doty

2012-09-06 10:30:31 CT

Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

On 09/06/2012 09:49 AM, Rick Buxton wrote:
> So many problems seem to stem from the PageStream ini file. I have
> solved problems in the past by deleting the file - once I can find it. I
> don't pretend to know anything about programming, but would it be
> possible, in future, to keep all of PageStream's files in the PageStream
> folder - I believe the Amiga version from 100 years ago kept all the
> related files in one place.

The Amiga also had no conception of multiple users or of security.
Putting the configuration file in the program directory is a problem on
some operating systems, such as Windows.

> With such an arrangement, you could have multiple versions of
> PageStream, each in their own folder including the ini and other related
> files.

Its possible to get more complicated to try and support such an
arrangement, but the problem is suiting everyone. For a 'mobile'
application it would make sense to store the ini in the application
folder, but one advantage of the current scheme is when I download a new
version it already has all of my settings, including the registration
information.

Frankly, trying to balance things is more work than I think is
warranted, but it is a valid suggestion and one that Deron may choose to
take action on.

Tim Doty

2012-09-06 09:00:18 CT	#5
rickbuxton From: Unknown Registered: 2012-06-24 Posts: 11	See, I told you I was a dolt when it comes to programming and such. I still don't understand the details about copyright, et al. I would guess, and this is just a wild and crazy guess, where PS doesn't get installed like other software, that it could just point to its own directory for the ini file. It would be simple to find, and could be easily copied to transfer preferences to other versions. My question was just a stab in the dark, but I'm highly appreciative for the feedback. As for PS itself, I couldn't live without it. Thanks to all. ________________________________ From: "admfubar@gmail.com" <admfubar@gmail.com> To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] That pesky ini file Generally the place for such files are placed according to the conventions of the os being used. there may be a problem with placing the .ini in the pagestream install directory as that could be copyrighted, or even patented... all sorts of wacky conventions get these "protections". On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:49:10 -0400, Rick Buxton <rickbuxton@yahoo.com> wrote: > > So many problems seem to stem from the PageStream ini file. I have solved problems in the past by deleting the file - once I can find it. I don't pretend to know anything >about programming, but would it be possible, in future, to keep all of PageStream's files in the PageStream folder - I believe the Amiga version from 100 years ago kept all >the related files in one place. > > With such an arrangement, you could have multiple versions of PageStream, each in their own folder including the ini and other related files. > > Just a thought. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

2012-09-06 09:00:18 CT

rickbuxton
From: Unknown
Registered: 2012-06-24
Posts: 11

See, I told you I was a dolt when it comes to programming and such. I still don't understand the details about copyright, et al. I would guess, and this is just a wild and crazy guess, where PS doesn't get installed like other software, that it could just point to its own directory for the ini file. It would be simple to find, and could be easily copied to transfer preferences to other versions.

My question was just a stab in the dark, but I'm highly appreciative for the feedback. As for PS itself, I couldn't live without it.

Thanks to all.

________________________________
From: "admfubar@gmail.com" <admfubar@gmail.com>
To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] That pesky ini file

On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:49:10 -0400, Rick Buxton <rickbuxton@yahoo.com> wrote:

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2012-09-06 12:20:05 CT	#6
Bonnie Dalzell From: United States Registered: 2006-02-23 Posts: 144	and as far as i can tell - doing a search: locate agereamini on my linux system linux pagestream does not have or use an .ini file. The only ini file I found for pagestream was for the windows version i had installed to use under "wine" the windows program enabling socket that is able to run a lot of windows programs on a linux os. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mailO box 9767 Baldwin, MD, USA 21013 \| EMAIL:bdalzell@qis.net shipping address:5100 Hydes Rd 21082 (Hydes Post Office closed Jan 2012) Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. HOME www.batw.net ART bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com

2012-09-06 12:20:05 CT

Bonnie Dalzell
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-23
Posts: 144

and as far as i can tell - doing a search:

locate *age*ream*ini

on my linux system linux pagestream does not have or use an *.ini file.

The only ini file I found for pagestream was for the windows version i
had installed to use under "wine" the windows program enabling
socket that is able to run a lot of windows programs on a linux
os.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bonnie Dalzell, MA
mail Razz O box 9767 Baldwin, MD, USA 21013 | EMAIL:bdalzell@qis.net
shipping address:5100 Hydes Rd 21082 (Hydes Post Office closed Jan 2012)
Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog
breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com.
HOME www.batw.net ART bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com

2012-09-06 18:34:02 CT	#7
T.J. Zweers From: Netherlands Registered: 2006-02-07 Posts: 331	Do a search for PageStream5.prefs. Your favorite link:http://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=82 Theo Op 6-9-2012 18:20, Bonnie Dalzell schreef: > and as far as i can tell - doing a search: > > locate agereamini > > on my linux system linux pagestream does not have or use an .ini file. > > The only ini file I found for pagestream was for the windows version i > had installed to use under "wine" the windows program enabling > socket that is able to run a lot of windows programs on a linux > os. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Bonnie Dalzell, MA > mailO box 9767 Baldwin, MD, USA 21013 \| EMAIL:bdalzell@qis.net > shipping address:5100 Hydes Rd 21082 (Hydes Post Office closed Jan 2012) > Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog > breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. > HOME www.batw.net ART bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.3 and PySide 1.1.1 (all 32 bits, unless stated otherwise) AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM

2012-09-06 18:34:02 CT

T.J. Zweers
From: Netherlands
Registered: 2006-02-07
Posts: 331

Do a search for PageStream5.prefs.

Your favorite link:http://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=82

Theo

Op 6-9-2012 18:20, Bonnie Dalzell schreef:
> and as far as i can tell - doing a search:
>
> locate *age*ream*ini
>
> on my linux system linux pagestream does not have or use an *.ini file.
>
> The only ini file I found for pagestream was for the windows version i
> had installed to use under "wine" the windows program enabling
> socket that is able to run a lot of windows programs on a linux
> os.
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Bonnie Dalzell, MA
> mail Razz O box 9767 Baldwin, MD, USA 21013 | EMAIL:bdalzell@qis.net
> shipping address:5100 Hydes Rd 21082 (Hydes Post Office closed Jan 2012)
> Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog
> breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com.
> HOME www.batw.net ART bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--
PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.3 and PySide 1.1.1 (all 32 bits, unless stated otherwise)
AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM

2012-09-06 12:57:53 CT	#8
Bonnie Dalzell From: United States Registered: 2006-02-23 Posts: 144	On Thu, 6 Sep 2012, Theo Zweers wrote: > Do a search for PageStream5.prefs. aha - found it in the dot directory /home/bdz/.PageStream5.prefs thanks > > Your favorite link:http://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=82 > > Theo > > Op 6-9-2012 18:20, Bonnie Dalzell schreef: >> and as far as i can tell - doing a search: >> >> locate agereamini >> >> on my linux system linux pagestream does not have or use an .ini file. >> >> The only ini file I found for pagestream was for the windows version i >> had installed to use under "wine" the windows program enabling >> socket that is able to run a lot of windows programs on a linux >> os. >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Bonnie Dalzell, MA >> mailO box 9767 Baldwin, MD, USA 21013 \| EMAIL:bdalzell@qis.net >> shipping address:5100 Hydes Rd 21082 (Hydes Post Office closed Jan 2012) >> Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog >> breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. >> HOME www.batw.net ART bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mailO box 9767 Baldwin, MD, USA 21013 \| EMAIL:bdalzell@qis.net shipping address:5100 Hydes Rd 21082 (Hydes Post Office closed Jan 2012) Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. HOME www.batw.net ART bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com

2012-09-06 12:57:53 CT

Bonnie Dalzell
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-23
Posts: 144

On Thu, 6 Sep 2012, Theo Zweers wrote:

> Do a search for PageStream5.prefs.

aha - found it in the dot directory /home/bdz/.PageStream5.prefs

thanks

>
> Your favorite link:http://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=82
>
> Theo
>
> Op 6-9-2012 18:20, Bonnie Dalzell schreef:
>> and as far as i can tell - doing a search:
>>
>> locate *age*ream*ini
>>
>> on my linux system linux pagestream does not have or use an *.ini file.
>>
>> The only ini file I found for pagestream was for the windows version i
>> had installed to use under "wine" the windows program enabling
>> socket that is able to run a lot of windows programs on a linux
>> os.
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Bonnie Dalzell, MA
>> mail Razz O box 9767 Baldwin, MD, USA 21013 | EMAIL:bdalzell@qis.net
>> shipping address:5100 Hydes Rd 21082 (Hydes Post Office closed Jan 2012)
>> Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog
>> breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com.
>> HOME www.batw.net ART bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

2012-09-06 22:24:01 CT	#9
admfubar From: Unknown Registered: 2011-11-19 Posts: 198	Wait, that doesnt seem right... are you running a windows (via wine) and a linux version of Pagestream?? On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:57:53 -0400, Bonnie Dalzell <bdalzell@qis.net> wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2012, Theo Zweers wrote: > >> Do a search for PageStream5.prefs. > > aha - found it in the dot directory /home/bdz/.PageStream5.prefs > > thanks > >> >> Your favorite link:http://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=82 >> >> Theo >> >> Op 6-9-2012 18:20, Bonnie Dalzell schreef: >>> and as far as i can tell - doing a search: >>> >>> locate agereamini >>> >>> on my linux system linux pagestream does not have or use an .ini file. >>> >>> The only ini file I found for pagestream was for the windows version i >>> had installed to use under "wine" the windows program enabling >>> socket that is able to run a lot of windows programs on a linux >>> os. > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

2012-09-06 22:24:01 CT

admfubar
From: Unknown
Registered: 2011-11-19
Posts: 198

Wait, that doesnt seem right...
are you running a windows (via wine) and a linux version of Pagestream??

On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:57:53 -0400, Bonnie Dalzell <bdalzell@qis.net> wrote:

>
> On Thu, 6 Sep 2012, Theo Zweers wrote:
>
>> Do a search for PageStream5.prefs.
>
> aha - found it in the dot directory /home/bdz/.PageStream5.prefs
>
> thanks
>
>>
>> Your favorite link:http://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=82
>>
>> Theo
>>
>> Op 6-9-2012 18:20, Bonnie Dalzell schreef:
>>> and as far as i can tell - doing a search:
>>>
>>> locate *age*ream*ini
>>>
>>> on my linux system linux pagestream does not have or use an *.ini file.
>>>
>>> The only ini file I found for pagestream was for the windows version i
>>> had installed to use under "wine" the windows program enabling
>>> socket that is able to run a lot of windows programs on a linux
>>> os.
> >>
>

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