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2013-02-17 11:51:31 CT #1
T.J. Zweers
From: Netherlands
Registered: 2006-02-07
Posts: 331

Hi all,

I finally made a document with, real, chapters (and page numbering not
starting with negative numbers, to start page 1 with one). Hooray!?

Not! At least I don't see the positive side of it.

Oh, my old way of making something like this contained also chapters,
but not the way PGS wants this (more like a continuous text document).
The positive with this is, that I could go to any page of the document,
wandering through the document, searching through the whole document, etc.

Now I need to know in which chapter the content is, because from the
start page, you cannot find something in a different chapter.
And, surprise (!), you can do a spelling check through the whole
document. I wish I could do that too, wandering through the document
(end of one paragraph, jumping to the next chapter), searching through
the document.

Oh, yes, I can go to each page, only if I know where it is (in which
chapter). To find this now, I make a pdf document and the search there.
Awkward.

What am I overlooking?

Theo

Oh, yes! I've seenhttp://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=63 and
http://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=132

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2013-02-17 07:53:14 CT #2
Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

I believe PgS is supposed to do this (at least for all articles in a chapter, even if not all articles in a document) but it hasn't worked in a long time. I guess I haven't made any fuss because my large documents tend to have one content article per chapter.

As to the rest of your thoughts: I guess it depends on what type of document you are making. Mine are, effectively, documentation so it readily follows what chapter (or subchapter) the information will be contained in due to the overall structure. But I can see how that might be nice.

For final use, where someone other than the author might not know which chapter, it will be a PDF (or at least printed with an index) so search is facilitated.

It sounds rather like the use cases are different, but that is why I haven't been complaining on the subject.

Tim Doty

On Feb 17, 2013, at 4:51 AM, Theo Zweers <tjzwrs@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I finally made a document with, real, chapters (and page numbering not
> starting with negative numbers, to start page 1 with one). Hooray!?
>
> Not! At least I don't see the positive side of it.
>
> Oh, my old way of making something like this contained also chapters,
> but not the way PGS wants this (more like a continuous text document).
> The positive with this is, that I could go to any page of the document,
> wandering through the document, searching through the whole document, etc.
>
> Now I need to know in which chapter the content is, because from the
> start page, you cannot find something in a different chapter.
> And, surprise (!), you can do a spelling check through the whole
> document. I wish I could do that too, wandering through the document
> (end of one paragraph, jumping to the next chapter), searching through
> the document.
>
> Oh, yes, I can go to each page, only if I know where it is (in which
> chapter). To find this now, I make a pdf document and the search there.
> Awkward.
>
> What am I overlooking?
>
> Theo
>
> Oh, yes! I've seenhttp://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=63 and
>http://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=132
>

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>
>


2013-02-18 09:39:39 CT #3
T.J. Zweers
From: Netherlands
Registered: 2006-02-07
Posts: 331

Hi Tim, and thank you!

It is a pity if this is the way to do this. Maybe Deron can shed some
light: is this is a bug or not?

Yes, I know where the things are in the document. At least generally.
But if I wanted to change the company name in all chapters, because the
company just did, I have to open each chapter to do a search... And they
are moving, so I have to look for their old address... Or I used a word
which isn't just the right word, I need to replace it...

If I want to get the text from the whole document in a text file (why? I
want someone to translate the text), I need to do this from each chapter
(can't do that from the pdf file, because each line is a line, not a
sentence).

That's why I asked this question, if I didn't overlook something (these
things are new to me! Smile ).

Um Deron, if you answer my question, can you get a new PGS version out,
with a better pdf output? (Resized bitmaps - in PGS - now are giving out
the full size (in bits), and the correct size - yeah -, page-wise, in
the pdf document, but too much MB's. I know this is handled in the
indoor version)

Theo - a newby, sometimes

Op 17-2-2013 14:53, Tim Doty schreef:
> I believe PgS is supposed to do this (at least for all articles in a chapter, even if not all articles in a document) but it hasn't worked in a long time. I guess I haven't made any fuss because my large documents tend to have one content article per chapter.
>
> As to the rest of your thoughts: I guess it depends on what type of document you are making. Mine are, effectively, documentation so it readily follows what chapter (or subchapter) the information will be contained in due to the overall structure. But I can see how that might be nice.
>
> For final use, where someone other than the author might not know which chapter, it will be a PDF (or at least printed with an index) so search is facilitated.
>
> It sounds rather like the use cases are different, but that is why I haven't been complaining on the subject.
>
> Tim Doty
>
> On Feb 17, 2013, at 4:51 AM, Theo Zweers <tjzwrs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I finally made a document with, real, chapters (and page numbering not
>> starting with negative numbers, to start page 1 with one). Hooray!?
>>
>> Not! At least I don't see the positive side of it.
>>
>> Oh, my old way of making something like this contained also chapters,
>> but not the way PGS wants this (more like a continuous text document).
>> The positive with this is, that I could go to any page of the document,
>> wandering through the document, searching through the whole document, etc.
>>
>> Now I need to know in which chapter the content is, because from the
>> start page, you cannot find something in a different chapter.
>> And, surprise (!), you can do a spelling check through the whole
>> document. I wish I could do that too, wandering through the document
>> (end of one paragraph, jumping to the next chapter), searching through
>> the document.
>>
>> Oh, yes, I can go to each page, only if I know where it is (in which
>> chapter). To find this now, I make a pdf document and the search there.
>> Awkward.
>>
>> What am I overlooking?
>>
>> Theo
>>
>> Oh, yes! I've seenhttp://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=63 and
>>http://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=132
>>
>>
>>


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2013-02-18 06:37:41 CT #4
Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

I wasn't meaning to suggest you didn't have a good use for doing it that way (different use cases, after all!) but just FYI if there is something that you suspect might change you can use a document variable (PgS may call it something else, I forget). In other words define a variable 'company' with a value <this company's name> and insert that for company name everywhere in the document. Then changing it everywhere is a simple matter. Obviously, you don't know before hand everything that will change, but sometimes for a particular document, you can have a good idea of what might change.

Tim Doty

On Feb 18, 2013, at 2:39 AM, Theo Zweers <tjzwrs@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Tim, and thank you!
>
> It is a pity if this is the way to do this. Maybe Deron can shed some
> light: is this is a bug or not?
>
> Yes, I know where the things are in the document. At least generally.
> But if I wanted to change the company name in all chapters, because the
> company just did, I have to open each chapter to do a search... And they
> are moving, so I have to look for their old address... Or I used a word
> which isn't just the right word, I need to replace it...
>
> If I want to get the text from the whole document in a text file (why? I
> want someone to translate the text), I need to do this from each chapter
> (can't do that from the pdf file, because each line is a line, not a
> sentence).
>
> That's why I asked this question, if I didn't overlook something (these
> things are new to me! Smile ).
>
> Um Deron, if you answer my question, can you get a new PGS version out,
> with a better pdf output? (Resized bitmaps - in PGS - now are giving out
> the full size (in bits), and the correct size - yeah -, page-wise, in
> the pdf document, but too much MB's. I know this is handled in the
> indoor version)
>
> Theo - a newby, sometimes
>
> Op 17-2-2013 14:53, Tim Doty schreef:
>> I believe PgS is supposed to do this (at least for all articles in a chapter, even if not all articles in a document) but it hasn't worked in a long time. I guess I haven't made any fuss because my large documents tend to have one content article per chapter.
>>
>> As to the rest of your thoughts: I guess it depends on what type of document you are making. Mine are, effectively, documentation so it readily follows what chapter (or subchapter) the information will be contained in due to the overall structure. But I can see how that might be nice.
>>
>> For final use, where someone other than the author might not know which chapter, it will be a PDF (or at least printed with an index) so search is facilitated.
>>
>> It sounds rather like the use cases are different, but that is why I haven't been complaining on the subject.
>>
>> Tim Doty
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2013, at 4:51 AM, Theo Zweers <tjzwrs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I finally made a document with, real, chapters (and page numbering not
>>> starting with negative numbers, to start page 1 with one). Hooray!?
>>>
>>> Not! At least I don't see the positive side of it.
>>>
>>> Oh, my old way of making something like this contained also chapters,
>>> but not the way PGS wants this (more like a continuous text document).
>>> The positive with this is, that I could go to any page of the document,
>>> wandering through the document, searching through the whole document, etc.
>>>
>>> Now I need to know in which chapter the content is, because from the
>>> start page, you cannot find something in a different chapter.
>>> And, surprise (!), you can do a spelling check through the whole
>>> document. I wish I could do that too, wandering through the document
>>> (end of one paragraph, jumping to the next chapter), searching through
>>> the document.
>>>
>>> Oh, yes, I can go to each page, only if I know where it is (in which
>>> chapter). To find this now, I make a pdf document and the search there.
>>> Awkward.
>>>
>>> What am I overlooking?
>>>
>>> Theo
>>>
>>> Oh, yes! I've seenhttp://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=63 and
>>>http://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=132
>>>

>>>
>>>
>
>
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