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2016-06-19 15:57:51 CT #1
T M N Irish
From: United Kingdom
Registered: 2006-08-17
Posts: 21

Windows 10 Pro
Fri 3 June 2016
Well, I have now started using PageStream again,
after my visit to Toronto, to edit a weekly
sheet of A4 folded as a booklet
(so effectively four A5 pages)
as I have been doing for years
first under XP, then Windows 7
and now Windows 10 Pro.
I make whatever changes are required
to the previous week's sheet.


Printing used to work under XP,
did not work under Windows 7
and I have not even tried it under Windows 10 Pro.
Under Windows 7 I used to output to PDF
and that worked and still does under W 10 Pro.


The big problem under W 10 Pro
which makes it much more difficult to use
is that it keeps losing focus.
For instance, if you click in a text box,
PageStream notices the cursor position
but immediately loses focus.
So, in order to use the keyboard,
you have to regain focus.
So far I have found three ways of regaining focus
but all of them are inconvenient.
1. Click in the title or menu bars at the top of the screen.
2. Click in the gray area outside the document.
3. Alt+Tab twice.


Sun 19 June 2016
It also loses focus sometimes when you are just using the keyboard.
I have not really worked out what triggers that.
I have an impression that it is associated with typing quickly,
but it is only occasionally, and also with the arrow keys,
but again only occasionally. The problem is that
you have to keep an eye on the menu bar to see if it goes grey,
which means it has lost focus.


Another side effect of this is to do with sizing and positioning text boxes.
I can no longer use the mouse, so I have to use the Y and H controls
to control the vertical position and height of text boxes.
So far I have not needed to move any text boxes horizontally.


There was something that was bothering me and I have just
looked at one of my documents again and I think I have realised
what it was. The Y control moves the box up and down.
The H control moves the bottom of the box up and down,
but if it is the second of a pair of linked text boxes
it moves the top of the box up and down.
As I say, I think I have just realised that and I do not think
it is very obviously useful behaviour. It certainly threw me.


I have set the program to
"Run this program in campatibility mode for
Windows XP (Service Pack 3)"
"Disable display scaling on high DPI settings" - I do not know what that
means. I think it was a default.
"Run this program as an administrator"

There is also this problem that Windows refuses to start it after
some indefinite number of other programs have been run.
That happened to me just now, so I rebooted, started it as the first
"voluntary" program and it just started. That is a ridiculous problem.


I can only imagine that Windows 10 deals with mouse and keyboard events
in some manner that PageSTream is not expecting
and which the "compatibility" mode does not adequately conceal.

I would dearly love Deron to come out of retirement
sufficiently to fix this Windows 10 problem.
With a bit of luck it would not be too hard
though, of course, that is easy for me to say.
I am prepared to pay towards it, though, sadly,
not enough to tempt him to do it just for money.


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2016-06-28 18:39:13 CT #2
T.J. Zweers
From: Netherlands
Registered: 2006-02-07
Posts: 331

I start with that I cannot help you.
Because PGS 5.0.5.8 and 5.0.5.7 works here as normal, on Windows 10.
Focuses? Well, after a save from a document I need to click inside PGS
(if we talking about the same focusing).


No, my problems with Windows 10, is Windows 10 itself. I cannot launch
any program from Start. Explorer (on status bar) does not remember what
I be doing the last times.
I can remedy that with a bit of luck (now this won't work: press del
when the computer is starting up, then do a save and start the computer
up again), and Windows 10 works again as spectated... for a couple of
days, and then the misbehavior starts again.


Theo


Op 19-6-2016 om 16:57 schreef T M N Irish T.M.N.Irish@bcs.org.uk
[PageStreamSupport]:
> Windows 10 Pro
> Fri 3 June 2016
> Well, I have now started using PageStream again,
> after my visit to Toronto, to edit a weekly
> sheet of A4 folded as a booklet
> (so effectively four A5 pages)
> as I have been doing for years
> first under XP, then Windows 7
> and now Windows 10 Pro.
> I make whatever changes are required
> to the previous week's sheet.
>
>
> Printing used to work under XP,
> did not work under Windows 7
> and I have not even tried it under Windows 10 Pro.
> Under Windows 7 I used to output to PDF
> and that worked and still does under W 10 Pro.
>
>
> The big problem under W 10 Pro
> which makes it much more difficult to use
> is that it keeps losing focus.
> For instance, if you click in a text box,
> PageStream notices the cursor position
> but immediately loses focus.
> So, in order to use the keyboard,
> you have to regain focus.
> So far I have found three ways of regaining focus
> but all of them are inconvenient.
> 1. Click in the title or menu bars at the top of the screen.
> 2. Click in the gray area outside the document.
> 3. Alt+Tab twice.
>
>
> Sun 19 June 2016
> It also loses focus sometimes when you are just using the keyboard.
> I have not really worked out what triggers that.
> I have an impression that it is associated with typing quickly,
> but it is only occasionally, and also with the arrow keys,
> but again only occasionally. The problem is that
> you have to keep an eye on the menu bar to see if it goes grey,
> which means it has lost focus.
>
>
> Another side effect of this is to do with sizing and positioning text boxes.
> I can no longer use the mouse, so I have to use the Y and H controls
> to control the vertical position and height of text boxes.
> So far I have not needed to move any text boxes horizontally.
>
>
> There was something that was bothering me and I have just
> looked at one of my documents again and I think I have realised
> what it was. The Y control moves the box up and down.
> The H control moves the bottom of the box up and down,
> but if it is the second of a pair of linked text boxes
> it moves the top of the box up and down.
> As I say, I think I have just realised that and I do not think
> it is very obviously useful behaviour. It certainly threw me.
>
>
> I have set the program to
> "Run this program in campatibility mode for
> Windows XP (Service Pack 3)"
> "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings" - I do not know what that
> means. I think it was a default.
> "Run this program as an administrator"
>
>
>
> There is also this problem that Windows refuses to start it after
> some indefinite number of other programs have been run.
> That happened to me just now, so I rebooted, started it as the first
> "voluntary" program and it just started. That is a ridiculous problem.
>
>
> I can only imagine that Windows 10 deals with mouse and keyboard events
> in some manner that PageSTream is not expecting
> and which the "compatibility" mode does not adequately conceal.
>
>
>
> I would dearly love Deron to come out of retirement
> sufficiently to fix this Windows 10 problem.
> With a bit of luck it would not be too hard
> though, of course, that is easy for me to say.
> I am prepared to pay towards it, though, sadly,
> not enough to tempt him to do it just for money.
>
>


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