Hello all you brainy ones!

I know this is off topic but I am getting desperate.
My existing Hard Drive is getting intermittent so I have purchased a Maxtor
10.4GIGABYTE IDE drive to replace it.
I wired it up as slave with my original HD as Master. Partitioned it,
formatted it with the same number of partitions as
my original drive and then copied each partition over from Master to Slave.
No problems.

Set the new drive to boot from the first partition. ERemoved the original
drive and set the new drive as Master.

Rebooted. Now's the rub. Only the first two partitions show up on the
screen. I've called up the HDToolbox and confirmed
that all is OK there. But nothing I do will make the last three partitions
available.

Am I missing something. Is there any source of help?

If I reinstall the original drive as master and the new drive as slave;
everything shows up on screen.
I'm slowly 'going round the bend' if I haven't already done so.

HELP!!!

Steve
Steven Taylor - London SW - England - UK
Pentium3 500MHz-Canon BJC6500 printer.
128MEG RAM

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On 14-Jun-00, Steven Taylor wrote:

> Rebooted. Now's the rub. Only the first two partitions show up on the
> screen. I've called up the HDToolbox and confirmed that all is OK
> there. But nothing I do will make the last three partitions available.
>
> Am I missing something. Is there any source of help?

Are you using the version of HDToolbox that came in the BoingBag 1
update? The one on the OS3.5 CD is bugged.

Regards
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Don Cox
doncox@enterprise.net

Hello Steven

On 14-Jun-00, Steven Taylor wrote:
> Hello all you brainy ones!
>
> I know this is off topic but I am getting desperate.
> My existing Hard Drive is getting intermittent so I have purchased a Maxtor
> 10.4GIGABYTE IDE drive to replace it.

I have OS3.1 and DOpus Magellan instead WB. Well - here is how I did it few
days ago - formatted my mates PC hd and installed Workbench: When new Hd is
plugged and system booted, go to HDToolBox and select new HD that appears
(writes 'unknown'). Then go to SetDriveType, Define New, and Read
Configuration. If everything goes well and HD is recognized, click OK and go
to partition drive, add partitions you want and exit. THen when quit
HDToolBox, format new icons that appears in WB and install OS3.x :]

Easy, isn't it? ;]

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On 14-Jun-00, DJNick wrote:
> Hello Steven
>
> On 14-Jun-00, Steven Taylor wrote:
>> Hello all you brainy ones!
>>
>> I know this is off topic but I am getting desperate. My existing Hard
>> Drive is getting intermittent so I have purchased a Maxtor
>> 10.4GIGABYTE IDE drive to replace it.
>
> I have OS3.1 and DOpus Magellan instead WB. Well - here is how I did
> it few days ago - formatted my mates PC hd and installed Workbench:
> When new Hd is plugged and system booted, go to HDToolBox and select
> new HD that appears (writes 'unknown'). Then go to SetDriveType,
> Define New, and Read Configuration. If everything goes well and HD is
> recognized, click OK and go to partition drive, add partitions you
> want and exit. THen when quit HDToolBox, format new icons that appears
> in WB and install OS3.x :]

Yes, but you can't use more than 3995 Megs of a drive under standard
OS3.1 - this drive is 10 Gigs.

You can add various updates which were available from the old Amiga.de
site to allow you to use the whole of a 10 Gig drive, or you can install
OS3.5 +BoingBag 1.

Or I believe you can use PFS3, but I haven't tried that.

The simplest thing is to partition the first 4 Gigs (or a little less to
be safe - 3995 Megs) and ignore the rest until the OS is updated.

I believe there are two ways of finding out from the drive what its
configuration is - the old HDToolbox uses the old way, and the new one
uses the new way. It could be that the old way doesn't suit new drives,
but I'm not sure about this.

Regards
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Don Cox
doncox@enterprise.net

Initially I used the 3.5 BBag/upgrade version from the original drive.
I then did a partiton to partition copy to the new HD thinking that it
must surely then be just a matter of re-booting. Everything showed up all
right until I removed the original HD and re-booted with the new one.
It refused saying that Iprefs was unacceptable. After many tries, I decided
to do it the hard way. I used the original WB3.1 disks and partioned and
formatted the drive using them. Although the five partitions were OK during
partitioning, they did not show up when rebooting. The AMIGA just asks me
to insert the WB3.1 disk.
UGH! I've almost worn the drive out trying one thing after the other.

It seems to be a catch22 situation.

Steve

At 13:12 14/06/00, you wrote:
>On 14-Jun-00, Steven Taylor wrote:
>
> > Rebooted. Now's the rub. Only the first two partitions show up on the
> > screen. I've called up the HDToolbox and confirmed that all is OK
> > there. But nothing I do will make the last three partitions available.
> >
> > Am I missing something. Is there any source of help?
>
>Are you using the version of HDToolbox that came in the BoingBag 1
>update? The one on the OS3.5 CD is bugged.
>
>Regards
>--
>Don Cox
>doncox@enterprise.net
>
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Steven Taylor - London SW - England - UK
Pentium3 500MHz-Canon BJC6500 printer.
128MEG RAM

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Hello Steven

On 14-Jun-00, you wrote:

> partitioning, they did not show up when rebooting. The AMIGA just asks me
> to insert the WB3.1 disk. UGH! I've almost worn the drive out trying one
> thing after the other.
>
> It seems to be a catch22 situation.

I may be able to offer some insight. I have an A4000T with two IDE drives
(no scsi, they've all died , one is 10GB the other is 30GB. When I still
had a scsi, everything worked like expected (or if I boot from my scsi
zip). However, to use >4GB partitions with OS3.1 requires some patches
which at least used to be available from amiga.de. These involve rebooting.
However, due to the way the whole patch thing operates the amiga can't do
it all itself if there is no normal drive to boot from. I have to manually
reboot (ctrl-amiga-amiga) two or three times for each boot to actually take
effect. Take heart and try.

Another problem is that the boot menu shows all of the partitions (it can
read the rdb, just not properly access). However, if you use the boot menu
it *will not* boot from a large drive.

Note that I have my boot partition <4GB and it is small (actually only 95MB
for mirroring to zip). I'm not sure it could even boot from a partition
past the 4GB limit.

Hope this helps,
Regards
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On 14-Jun-00, Timothy Doty wrote:

> Note that I have my boot partition <4GB and it is small (actually only
> 95MB for mirroring to zip). I'm not sure it could even boot from a
> partition past the 4GB limit.

They do tell you that your boot partition must be below the 4 Gig limit.

It has to be, because the patches that allow the OS to work with big
drives don't come into operation until after you have booted.

Of course an updated ROM would avoid this problem, but as H&P are still
getting the bugs out, it is as well they didn't commit to a ROM.

Regards
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doncox@enterprise.net

Where do I get the patches.

Regards

Steve

At 21:53 14/06/00, you wrote:
>On 14-Jun-00, Timothy Doty wrote:
>
> > Note that I have my boot partition <4GB and it is small (actually only
> > 95MB for mirroring to zip). I'm not sure it could even boot from a
> > partition past the 4GB limit.
>
>They do tell you that your boot partition must be below the 4 Gig limit.
>
>It has to be, because the patches that allow the OS to work with big
>drives don't come into operation until after you have booted.
>
>Of course an updated ROM would avoid this problem, but as H&P are still
>getting the bugs out, it is as well they didn't commit to a ROM.
>
>Regards
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Steven Taylor - London SW - England - UK
Pentium3 500MHz-Canon BJC6500 printer.
128MEG RAM

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Hello Steven

On 14-Jun-00, Steven Taylor wrote:
> Where do I get the patches.

I mean the patches that are part of OS3.5. It boots up from the 3.1 ROM,
and then the patches are applied in the startup-sequence.

Regards
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Don Cox
doncox@enterprise.net

Hello Steven on 14-Jun-00 11:12:54 you said
>Hello all you brainy ones!

>I know this is off topic but I am getting desperate.
>My existing Hard Drive is getting intermittent so I have purchased a Maxtor
>10.4GIGABYTE IDE drive to replace it.
>I wired it up as slave with my original HD as Master. Partitioned it,
>formatted it with the same number of partitions as
>my original drive and then copied each partition over from Master to Slave.
>No problems.

>Set the new drive to boot from the first partition. ERemoved the original
>drive and set the new drive as Master.

>Rebooted. Now's the rub. Only the first two partitions show up on the
>screen. I've called up the HDToolbox and confirmed
>that all is OK there. But nothing I do will make the last three partitions
>available.

OK Steven try this :-

go to your user start-up and add the following line for each 'missing'
partition :-

diskchange Workbench:
diskchange Work:
diskchange IDEbackup:

or whatever your missing partitions are called (don't forget the colon at the
end)

Don't ask me why, but I ran into the same problem when in quick succession I
installed OS3.5, PFS3 and a new 13.6 Gb IDE drive.

Whatever I did, however I partitioned the new drive there were always some
partitions 'missing' although they were there when certain tools were called.

Tim Corringham of RamJam (hey, credit where credit's due) solved it for me
with this 'cunning plan'.

And the rest of you guys, keep a copy of this email - you never know when you
might run into this one!

p.s. If this works you can buy Tim a beer at the next World of Amiga Show (or
me if he's not there).

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research.

Hi Deron,

You sill have problem with your ISP, I can't access www.softlogik.com
anymore.

I've sent you an email but I'm affraid you didn't get it due to ISP
problem...

So, here's the question I asked :

I purchased TableEditor for PageStream Amiga awhile ago but I would
like to transfer that to get PageStream for windows instead, is it
possible? According to the price chart I should have to pay
anything...

Thanks.
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Subject: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] ISP problem, Softlogik.com down.

> Hi Deron,
>
> You sill have problem with your ISP, I can't access www.softlogik.com
> anymore.
>
> I've sent you an email but I'm affraid you didn't get it due to ISP
> problem...

thats 1 of the reasons why deron put us on the egroups

> So, here's the question I asked :
>
> I purchased TableEditor for PageStream Amiga awhile ago but I would
> like to transfer that to get PageStream for windows instead, is it
> possible? According to the price chart I should have to pay
> anything...
>
Yeh I purchased (and payed) it I believe 2 years ago (or more)

But yeh keep waiting I have trust in Deron that there will be a Table Editor

>
> Thanks.
> --
Bye,

Sjoerd