Don Cox schrieb am 27.03.05 16:03:28:
> On 26/03/05, Andrew Smith wrote:
> >
> > I also paid for an upgrade to OSX and am still patiently waiting...
>
> Problems with the Windows versions seem to take up a great feal of
> Deron's time.

That's no reason for delaying all other versions for such a long time.

Ciao,

Peter alias
Thoddo@web.de

On Sunday 27 March 2005 11:56 am, Peter Drexler wrote:
> Don Cox schrieb am 27.03.05 16:03:28:
> > On 26/03/05, Andrew Smith wrote:
> > > I also paid for an upgrade to OSX and am still patiently waiting...
> >
> > Problems with the Windows versions seem to take up a great feal of
> > Deron's time.
>
> That's no reason for delaying all other versions for such a long time.

Well, when it is fixing/improving the core application I can understand. My
understanding is that PgS 3 was a complete re-write of the application and it
took a *long* time to get out. I bought PgS in the early days of PgS 3 when
there was no functional version (it became somewhat usable around 3.0i IIRC
-- I think it was more than two years from when I originally purchased PgS
3).

PgS 4 was much quicker in coming because Deron planned well when he re-wrote
for PgS 3 and extending the application was much easier.

However, he extended the platform base to include Linux and, in solving some
problems for linux he solved them in better ways which were then incorporated
into the code base. The end product is better, but doing all of this slows
down releases. Supporting multiple platforms is two-edged: it slows down
development and releases of the product as a whole, but it helps to hone the
product and keeps the product from being a niche in a single market which
improves survivability. It also helps prevent the users from being tied to a
certain platform.

Yes, there have been problems being chased down on the Windows version, but my
impression is that two things are largely responsible for holding up an Amiga
release: lack of a platform on which to compile and test (only so much space
to have hardware for each platform and this may be resolved by using a KVM,
but regardless has been an issue) and incorporating the changes.

I'm certainly not meaning to suggest that the wait is acceptable or that
customers should be happy -- that is something that each person decides for
himself. But if you think this is bad ask a Macintosh user of Quark about the
delay from Quark 5 to Quark 6 and how many problems Quark 6 had on release.
I'm just trying to put things in perspective.

Tim Doty

On 27/03/05, Tim Doty wrote:
>
>>> Problems with the Windows versions seem to take up a great feal of
>>> Deron's time.
>>
>> That's no reason for delaying all other versions for such a long
>> time.
>

> Yes, there have been problems being chased down on the Windows
> version, but my impression is that two things are largely responsible
> for holding up an Amiga release: lack of a platform on which to
> compile and test (only so much space to have hardware for each
> platform and this may be resolved by using a KVM, but regardless has
> been an issue) and incorporating the changes.
>
> I'm certainly not meaning to suggest that the wait is acceptable or
> that customers should be happy -- that is something that each person
> decides for himself. But if you think this is bad ask a Macintosh user
> of Quark about the delay from Quark 5 to Quark 6 and how many problems
> Quark 6 had on release. I'm just trying to put things in perspective.

Also, Quark are hostile to customers. Deron is customer-friendly.

Regards
--
Don Cox
doncox@enterprise.net

I recognize that Windows is the elephant sitting in the corner... To
mix metaphores Windows has attempted to take the Lion's Share
of the market and to keep Pagestream viable we need a Windows version
that works.

Andrew

On Mar 27, 2005, at 9:56 AM, Peter Drexler wrote:

> That's no reason for delaying all other versions for such a long time.

Il giorno 27/mar/05, alle 19:56, Peter Drexler ha scritto:

>
> Don Cox schrieb am 27.03.05 16:03:28:
>> On 26/03/05, Andrew Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I also paid for an upgrade to OSX and am still patiently waiting...
>>
>> Problems with the Windows versions seem to take up a great feal of
>> Deron's time.
>
> That's no reason for delaying all other versions for such a long time.

I agree.

>
> Ciao,
>
> Peter alias
> Thoddo@web.de
>

Ciao
Giovanni Bianchessi

Il giorno 27/mar/05, alle 21:39, Don Cox ha scritto:

>
> On 27/03/05, Tim Doty wrote:
>>
>>>> Problems with the Windows versions seem to take up a great feal of
>>>> Deron's time.
>>>
>>> That's no reason for delaying all other versions for such a long
>>> time.
>>
>
>> Yes, there have been problems being chased down on the Windows
>> version, but my impression is that two things are largely responsible
>> for holding up an Amiga release: lack of a platform on which to
>> compile and test (only so much space to have hardware for each
>> platform and this may be resolved by using a KVM, but regardless has
>> been an issue) and incorporating the changes.
>>
>> I'm certainly not meaning to suggest that the wait is acceptable or
>> that customers should be happy -- that is something that each person
>> decides for himself. But if you think this is bad ask a Macintosh user
>> of Quark about the delay from Quark 5 to Quark 6 and how many problems
>> Quark 6 had on release. I'm just trying to put things in perspective.
>
> Also, Quark are hostile to customers. Deron is customer-friendly.

Years ago, he was, and I was proud to use PageStream. And now?

>
> Regards
> --
> Don Cox
> doncox@enterprise.net
>

Regards
Giovanni Bianchessi