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2005-11-27 21:20:05 CT #1
Michael Merkel
From: Germany
Registered: 2006-02-07
Posts: 454

hi deron.

here is a list of (mostly) gui bugs i just discovered. maybe some are known.

toolbox
- no document is open. if clicking on buttons in the toolbox on the left (e.g.
the texttool) the button/picture gets a blue background here. it is not
selectable. please make it "inactive"/greyed out.

toolbar at the bottom, showing the current tool and other stuff
- it changes its size which results in states where it is not
completely visible as parts of it are outsize the screen. especially
right after start. also its position is not remembered.
- the left button in it, showing the current tool, should be a fixed widht button! example:
o start pagestream and open a new document. the toolbox is small -
looks ok.
o click inside the document window, hold the mouse and move it - the
tool window becomes bigger, showing coordinates
o release the mouse - now the tool window stays big - showing a way
too large button.

genereal
- the texts below the buttons inside requesteres have a wrong backfill. here it
looks like the requester background is dark grey, the text is black and the text
background is light grey. wrong BACKFILL?
- all mui windows miss the "store position" button in their title. please
activate it so we can store the positions individually instead only by using the
menu (remember window positions)
- all file requesters still open on workbench!

new document requester:
- the input field for the page size (pop requester) is "editable". it should not
imho as you should always use the pop selection instead.
--> this is valid for *all* pop requester string fields in pagestream where
only "fixed" values exist.
- values entered/selected are not remembered - even if i press the button to do
so
- the input fields for left/right/top/bottom are defined too small in their
default minimum size. when the requester opens i can only see a small input
field with "m" in it. actually it is "0.5cm" written in it. i first have to
enlarge the window to see the content. not nice. please set the default minimum
size to smth like 5 characters.
on the other hand the righter fields are too large. i believe this is due to
using a 2 column layout where the columns have the same size. actually the
left one should have about 70% of the complete size instead.

palettes
- the page and document palette dont *look* usable. the scroll bars are a
"little bit" to thick. actually they fill always half the height of their window
even if resized
- what is written in these palettes has a strange color (brown here) and the
text actually overlaps the window borders - especially if you resize the palette
windows to their minimal size
- the width of the layer palette is not changeable

line/fill requester
- takes several seconds to pop up
- can only define lines? no fill??
- textbackground here is blue instead of "transparent"

printer settings
- i actually don't understand it at the moment:
o how can i save/load different settings like before? i have several depending
on the output (postscript, turboprint driver, different page sizes, ...)
o how can i define the actual output device like in older version (device,
file, printer, ...)

great work seeing the progress from the first version to that one!

byebye...

ps: more to come Wink


--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael

2005-12-02 23:20:19 CT #2
Deron Kazmaier
From: United States
Registered: 2006-01-29
Posts: 4639


>hi deron.
>here is a list of (mostly) gui bugs i just discovered. maybe some are known.
>
>toolbox
>- no document is open. if clicking on buttons in the toolbox on the left (e.g.
> the texttool) the button/picture gets a blue background here. it is not
> selectable. please make it "inactive"/greyed out.

Hmm. Ok. Funny, been like this forever. Tools in the toolbar get disabled,
but not in the toolbox. Fixed for next release.

>toolbar at the bottom, showing the current tool and other stuff

PageStream calls it the edit palette.

>- it changes its size which results in states where it is not
> completely visible as parts of it are outsize the screen. especially
> right after start. also its position is not remembered.
>- the left button in it, showing the current tool, should be a fixed widht
>button! example:
> o start pagestream and open a new document. the toolbox is small -
> looks ok.
> o click inside the document window, hold the mouse and move it - the
> tool window becomes bigger, showing coordinates
> o release the mouse - now the tool window stays big - showing a way
> too large button.

This is still work in progress, but thanks for the note!

>genereal
>- the texts below the buttons inside requesteres have a wrong backfill.
>here it
> looks like the requester background is dark grey, the text is black and
> the text
> background is light grey. wrong BACKFILL?

Yes, I see that also, but the labels are getting created with
MUII_RequesterBack, which should have the same background as the requester.
It is on my list, but it is something I'll have to get an MUI expert
opinion on.

>- all mui windows miss the "store position" button in their title. please
> activate it so we can store the positions individually instead only by
> using the
> menu (remember window positions)

I think I know what controls that. I'll try and make it work in the next
release.

>- all file requesters still open on workbench!

Dang! I thought I had that fixed!!! It is now. (it was fixed if a document
is already open).

>new document requester:
>- the input field for the page size (pop requester) is "editable".

Should be fixed in the next release. Changed to the mui cycle gadget which
popups etc.

>- values entered/selected are not remembered - even if i press the button
>to do
> so
>- the input fields for left/right/top/bottom are defined too small in their
> default minimum size.

Fixed.

>i believe this is due to
> using a 2 column layout where the columns have the same size.
> actually the
> left one should have about 70% of the complete size instead.

Actually, it is a function that the strings (and MUI gadgets ingeneral)
don't appear to have a way to set a minimum size! I've tried to compensate
for this, but may need some input from a MUI expert. It seems ok now.

>palettes
>- the page and document palette dont *look* usable. the scroll bars are a
> "little bit" to thick. actually they fill always half the height of
> their window
> even if resized

Still work in progress.

>printer settings
>- i actually don't understand it at the moment:
> o how can i save/load different settings like before? i have
> several depending
> on the output (postscript, turboprint driver, different page
> sizes, ...)

_Should_ be buttons across the bottom like before...

> o how can i define the actual output device like in older version
> (device,
> file, printer, ...)
>
>great work seeing the progress from the first version to that one!

And it is great to see someone who it works more or less the same as for me.

>Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)


Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream
DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows


2005-12-03 23:33:03 CT #3
Michael Merkel
From: Germany
Registered: 2006-02-07
Posts: 454

<support@grasshopperllc.com> wrote at Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:20:19 -0600
about <[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Re: os4 v5.0.2.8 bugs>:

hi deron.

the new v5.0.2.9 looks *much* more smart now.
i'll have a deeper look later.

thanks!!!!

byebye...

--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael

2005-12-04 20:42:29 CT #4
Michael Merkel
From: Germany
Registered: 2006-02-07
Posts: 454

<support@grasshopperllc.com> wrote at Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:20:19 -0600
about <[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Re: os4 v5.0.2.8 bugs>:

> >genereal
> >- the texts below the buttons inside requesteres have a wrong backfill.
> >here it
> > looks like the requester background is dark grey, the text is black and
> > the text
> > background is light grey. wrong BACKFILL?
>
> Yes, I see that also, but the labels are getting created with
> MUII_RequesterBack, which should have the same background as the requester.
> It is on my list, but it is something I'll have to get an MUI expert
> opinion on.

well, i'm definitely no mui expert, but MUII_RequesterBack seems wrong to me.
reason: the text is usually not placed "on a requester" but "inside a group". so
MUII_GroupBack would be the better choice.
but - shouldn't the background color of text per default be "invisible" (=> the
same background of the surrounding object)? i mean the correct choice would be
not to define a fill information at all?!

> >new document requester:
> >- the input field for the page size (pop requester) is "editable".
>
> Should be fixed in the next release. Changed to the mui cycle gadget which
> popups etc.

perfect! only "longer" lists - say more than 20 entries should become popups.

> >printer settings
> >- i actually don't understand it at the moment:
> > o how can i save/load different settings like before? i have
> > several depending
> > on the output (postscript, turboprint driver, different page
> > sizes, ...)
>
> _Should_ be buttons across the bottom like before...

hmmm... i miss a "load" and "save as" possibility to load and save settings. i
only see a "save" button to store the default. or am i looking at the wrong
place?

> > o how can i define the actual output device like in older version
> > (device,
> > file, printer, ...)
> >
> >great work seeing the progress from the first version to that one!
>
> And it is great to see someone who it works more or less the same as for me.

Smile

well, pagestream always starts here except sometimes after quitting and
restarting (and still on the workbench the second time).
but i can hardly load any old document. maybe just the fonts?
if i add my "usual" font paths (holding truetype and postscript fonts only) to
pagestream i cannot even load the pagestream examples. only with the default
pagestream font path it seems to work.

byebye...

--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael

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