Dear Deron!

I know that the MUI version of PGS Amiga is a must to make
easy handling of all Amiga platforms.

This GUI changes brought another thing, the style guide of
the windows version. I really confused with the gui after
several years of dealing with the GUI of the 68k PGS4.

I know that you will bring to us three versions of Amiga
GUI, but is it mean three different layouts then?

Kind regards
--
Lázi
lazi@freemail.hu
www.dunaweb.hu/~szimbiozis
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>Dear Deron!
>
>I know that the MUI version of PGS Amiga is a must to make
>easy handling of all Amiga platforms.
>
>This GUI changes brought another thing, the style guide of
>the windows version. I really confused with the gui after
>several years of dealing with the GUI of the 68k PGS4.
>
>I know that you will bring to us three versions of Amiga
>GUI, but is it mean three different layouts then?

Not sure what you mean exactly. The interface should be very similar to
PageStream 4.1 Amiga68k. The only things I can think of right now are that
I still have to do are:

1. Reverse the position of the OK/Cancel buttons and spread them out in the
dialog. (waiting to see if anyone notices or cares. It is not too hard for
me to do, and I might make it user selectable). I can do this because the
gui is now described with the buttons at the bottom in a group and the
OK/Default and Cancel/Escape buttons flagged.

2. The Project menu is now named File. This is anti-amiga, but more like
the rest of the world. I am ok with it either way.

2. The about box is in the Help menu instead of the File(/Project) menu.
Not sure if this one matters much to people.

It is possible others exist, but that is what I remember right now off the
top of my head.

>Kind regards
>--
>Lázi

Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

<support@grasshopperllc.com> wrote at Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:07:10 -0600
about <[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Re: changed style guide>:

>
> >Dear Deron!
> >
> >I know that the MUI version of PGS Amiga is a must to make
> >easy handling of all Amiga platforms.
> >
> >This GUI changes brought another thing, the style guide of
> >the windows version. I really confused with the gui after
> >several years of dealing with the GUI of the 68k PGS4.
> >
> >I know that you will bring to us three versions of Amiga
> >GUI, but is it mean three different layouts then?
>
> Not sure what you mean exactly. The interface should be very similar to
> PageStream 4.1 Amiga68k. The only things I can think of right now are that
> I still have to do are:
>
> 1. Reverse the position of the OK/Cancel buttons and spread them out in the
> dialog. (waiting to see if anyone notices or cares. It is not too hard for
> me to do, and I might make it user selectable). I can do this because the
> gui is now described with the buttons at the bottom in a group and the
> OK/Default and Cancel/Escape buttons flagged.

well - on amiga the negative buton is placed on the right and
the positive one on the left. that's how to do it.

i'm fine with the other changes.

byebye...

--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael

On 10/12/05, PageStream Support wrote:

> 1. Reverse the position of the OK/Cancel buttons and spread them out
> in the dialog. (waiting to see if anyone notices or cares. It is not
> too hard for me to do, and I might make it user selectable). I can do
> this because the gui is now described with the buttons at the bottom
> in a group and the OK/Default and Cancel/Escape buttons flagged.

Best if it matches the Amiga style guide, with Cancel on the right.

> 2. The Project menu is now named File. This is anti-amiga, but more
> like the rest of the world. I am ok with it either way.

Again, it should match the Amiga style guide. There is more in the first
menu than just file management.

IMO it should be called "Project", as in the Style Guide.

> 2. The about box is in the Help menu instead of the File(/Project)
> menu. Not sure if this one matters much to people.

It does. I would never think of looking for About under the Help menu.
It is always under Project on Amigas.

If you can change this without too much trouble, it would be
appreciated. We do need to check this item before reporting bugs, so it
is used.
>
> It is possible others exist, but that is what I remember right now off
> the top of my head.

Maybe a browse through the Style Guide will suggest others.

Regards
--
Don Cox
doncox@enterprise.net

Hello PageStream

On 05.12.10., PageStream Support wrote:
> Not sure what you mean exactly. The interface should be
> very similar to PageStream 4.1 Amiga68k. The only
> things I can think of right now are that I still have
> to do are:
>
> 1. Reverse the position of the OK/Cancel buttons and
> spread them out in the dialog. (waiting to see if
> anyone notices or cares. It is not too hard for me to
> do, and I might make it user selectable). I can do this
> because the gui is now described with the buttons at
> the bottom in a group and the OK/Default and
> Cancel/Escape buttons flagged.
>
> 2. The Project menu is now named File. This is
> anti-amiga, but more like the rest of the world. I am
> ok with it either way.
>
> 2. The about box is in the Help menu instead of the
> File(/Project) menu. Not sure if this one matters much
> to people.
>
You understand me precisely . Thank you for describing my
exact problems behalf of me.

I know the rest of the world is using mainstream computing
at the first place, so they are comfortable with the same
layout on every platform.

I am using almost 100% Amiga for productivity, and I hope
others are feel the similar to keep every application in the
same mood, if possible.

Thank you again.

Regards
--
Lázi
lazi@freemail.hu
www.dunaweb.hu/~szimbiozis
-=( AmigaOne (A1-c) A1200/060 A2000/030)=-
-=\*** Color Laserjet - Plotter - Scanner ***/=-

On 2005-12-10, PageStream Support wrote:
[...]
> 2. The Project menu is now named File. This is anti-amiga, but more like
> the rest of the world. I am ok with it either way.
>
> 2. The about box is in the Help menu instead of the File(/Project) menu.
> Not sure if this one matters much to people.

I definitely notice things like this and compared to the work required
to move from MUI to Reaction I think it would be silly not to take care
of something like this.

One could also reason that if it was worth changing for the Windows
version, it is worth changing back for the Amiga version again.

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Greetings "Don Cox" <doncox@enterprise.net>
On 12/11/2005 at 11:38 AM you wrote concerning
Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Re: changed style guide

Hi Don Cox and others,

<<snip>>
DC> Best if it matches the Amiga style guide, with Cancel on the
DC> right.

I prefer CANCEL on the right but I'm not hung up on that!

DC>> 2. The Project menu is now named File. This is anti-amiga, but
DC>> more like the rest of the world. I am ok with it either way.

DC> Again, it should match the Amiga style guide. There is more in
DC> the first menu than just file management.

DC> IMO it should be called "Project", as in the Style Guide.

Althought I tend to agree with Don Cox on this one, I "just a moment
ago" realized that in Amiga 4.1.5.6 the menu is 'File' and not
'Project'. I had not even noticed the change in 4.1.5.6!!!

DC>> 2. The about box is in the Help menu instead of the
DC>> File(/Project) menu. Not sure if this one matters much to
DC>> people.

DC> It does. I would never think of looking for About under the Help
DC> menu. It is always under Project on Amigas.

DC> If you can change this without too much trouble, it would be
DC> appreciated. We do need to check this item before reporting
DC> bugs, so it is used.

I would vote for keeping it where it was, but I'm not worrying about
this one either.

Cheers Don (Green Dragon)