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2006-03-06 11:11:22 CT #1
Roy Leith
From: United Kingdom
Registered: 2006-02-23
Posts: 171

I see that several folks have got this version to run. I deleted the .10 folder and installed the .12 version into a clean OS4.0 UD4 partition. I still get the problems I reported in

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PageStreamAmigaBeta/message/1116

I am wondering if the registration stage is leaving a problem. I am able to enter the reg. details, but Workbench freezes with an ISI problem. A reboot into the clean Workbench seems to have the program loading, but with the same problems as before.

Could anyone who has got it working on an A1G4 let me know if they had the registration problem? Also, were there any tricks involved in getting it to work?

A1G4, Radeon 7000, 512MB RAM, OS4.0 UD4. default user-startup and startup-sequence. No additional assigns. No font additions.

Regards
Roy Leith


2006-03-07 00:14:09 CT #2
Dr. Larry Keller
From: Unknown
Registered: 2005-06-22
Posts: 72

Hello Roy,

On 03/06/2006, you wrote:
> I see that several folks have got this version to run. I deleted the
> .10 folder and installed the .12 version into a clean OS4.0 UD4
> partition. I still get the problems I reported in
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PageStreamAmigaBeta/message/1116

> I am wondering if the registration stage is leaving a problem. I am
> able to enter the reg. details, but Workbench freezes with an ISI
> problem. A reboot into the clean Workbench seems to have the program
> loading, but with the same problems as before.
> Could anyone who has got it working on an A1G4 let me know if they
> had the registration problem? Also, were there any tricks involved in
> getting it to work?
> A1G4, Radeon 7000, 512MB RAM, OS4.0 UD4. default user-startup and
> startup-sequence. No additional assigns. No font additions.

I have a system very similar to Roy's but with 1 GB RAM. On my
system, the registration window opens fine, goes through
initialization, filters, etc. and opens the main toolbar in the default
position as a vertical left bar. However, it is grayed out and a bar
but very small appears at the bottom left. Then my system freezes. No
Grim Reaper at all.

I have the clock CPU window on my dock and when PageStream Pro 5
starts it uses all of the CPU according to that gadget. It just
continues to use all until it freezes. I waited five minutes to see if
the program was slowly loading and froze the cursor because of the
heavy CPU load, but after five minutes all was still frozen.

The registration window is slow in all its stages. I removed all my
assigns for PS 4 before starting PS Pro 5. I have not been able to use
any of the PS Pro 5 betas as they all lock my system. As you change
the betas, Deron, and mine still doesn't load, hopefully that may
provide some clues.

Thanks for continued work on my greatest computer program for any
system.

> Regards
> Roy Leith
>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@nacs.net


2006-03-07 08:59:14 CT #3
Roy Leith
From: United Kingdom
Registered: 2006-02-23
Posts: 171

--- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Larry Keller"
<lkeller@...> wrote:

>
> I have a system very similar to Roy's but with 1 GB RAM. On my
> system, the registration window opens fine, goes through
> initialization, filters, etc. and opens the main toolbar in the
default
> position as a vertical left bar. However, it is grayed out and a
bar
> but very small appears at the bottom left. Then my system freezes.
No
> Grim Reaper at all.
>
> I have the clock CPU window on my dock and when PageStream Pro 5
> starts it uses all of the CPU according to that gadget. It just
> continues to use all until it freezes. I waited five minutes to see
if
> the program was slowly loading and froze the cursor because of the
> heavy CPU load, but after five minutes all was still frozen.
>
> The registration window is slow in all its stages. I removed all
my
> assigns for PS 4 before starting PS Pro 5. I have not been able to
use
> any of the PS Pro 5 betas as they all lock my system. As you change
> the betas, Deron, and mine still doesn't load, hopefully that may
> provide some clues.
>

There is one difference between our PGS5PRO installations: yours
appears to be on your main boot partition and mine is on a second,
'pure' partition. However, the results are similar. I shall try the
processor utilisation check and I hope you will display the free
memory in the Workbench Title bar. It sounds as though PGS is doing
something very processor intensive that grabs unused system memory
until the system freezes to an unbootable stage.

I have a little more to add from my researches. I appended my 68k
prefs (less the registration stuff) to the V5 preferences and the
additional panels like the colour palette and page manager appeared.
The system still freezes. I am beginning to suspect that the
registration system (which GRs for me) is not creating the complete
default prefs file and that missing entries are causing problems. If
someone would like to post to me a working prefs file WITH THE
REGISTRATION STUFF DELETED I will try out my theory.

Two other things I will try,

1. Upgrading OS4 UD4 in case files have been damaged.
2. Starting again with the non-pro version.

Regards
Roy Leith


2006-03-07 09:05:14 CT #4
Paolo Vanni
From: Italy
Registered: 2006-02-07
Posts: 18

Hi all,
are you using some AOS4 theme and not the default one?
Because I have strange behavior with some theme,
and in one case I have the freeze you mentioned,
changing to the default theme then pgs 5.0.2.12 work
in the same manner of other users on this list,
unfortunally sooner or later I get a freeze.

Regards,
Paolo


2006-03-07 10:31:12 CT #5
Roy Leith
From: United Kingdom
Registered: 2006-02-23
Posts: 171

--- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, "Paolo Vanni" <pvanni@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> are you using some AOS4 theme and not the default one?
> Because I have strange behavior with some theme,
> and in one case I have the freeze you mentioned,
> changing to the default theme then pgs 5.0.2.12 work
> in the same manner of other users on this list,
> unfortunally sooner or later I get a freeze.
>
> Regards,
> Paolo
>

Thanks for the comment. I am using a standard UD4 install into a spare bootable partition, theme and all. I tried 'upgrading' OS4.0/UD4 in case files had been damaged, but there is no change. I, also, did a fresh install of the non-pro_.10 version into an empty drawer and got the same results as before; a slow reduction in free memory and eventually a complete system freeze that cannot be rebooted in any way from the keyboard.

Two things you could help me out with,

1. The information about the motherboard and video card (if any) you are using. Are you, perhaps, a µAOne user? I am wondering if this is a processor based problem bearing in mind that Deron is using a µA1.

2. The contents of the prefs file you are using BUT, WITH THE EARLY REGISTRATION LINES DELETED.

Regards
Roy Leith


2006-03-07 08:55:53 CT #6
Dr. Larry Keller
From: Unknown
Registered: 2005-06-22
Posts: 72

Hello Paolo,

On 03/07/2006, you wrote:
> Hi all,
> are you using some AOS4 theme and not the default one?
> Because I have strange behavior with some theme,
> and in one case I have the freeze you mentioned,
> changing to the default theme then pgs 5.0.2.12 work
> in the same manner of other users on this list,
> unfortunally sooner or later I get a freeze.

I am using one of the 20th Anniversary themes. I may check to see
what happens without it. Worth checking out. Thanks for the tip.

> Regards,
> Paolo

Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@nacs.net


2006-03-07 09:02:22 CT #7
Dr. Larry Keller
From: Unknown
Registered: 2005-06-22
Posts: 72

Hello royleith,

On 03/07/2006, you wrote:
> --- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Larry Keller"
><lkeller@...> wrote:
>>
>> I have a system very similar to Roy's but with 1 GB RAM. On my
>> system, the registration window opens fine, goes through
>> initialization, filters, etc. and opens the main toolbar in the
> default
>> position as a vertical left bar. However, it is grayed out and a
> bar
>> but very small appears at the bottom left. Then my system freezes.

> No
>> Grim Reaper at all.
>>
>> I have the clock CPU window on my dock and when PageStream Pro 5
>> starts it uses all of the CPU according to that gadget. It just
>> continues to use all until it freezes. I waited five minutes to see

> if
>> the program was slowly loading and froze the cursor because of the
>> heavy CPU load, but after five minutes all was still frozen.
>>
>> The registration window is slow in all its stages. I removed all
> my
>> assigns for PS 4 before starting PS Pro 5. I have not been able to
> use
>> any of the PS Pro 5 betas as they all lock my system. As you change
>> the betas, Deron, and mine still doesn't load, hopefully that may
>> provide some clues.
>>

> There is one difference between our PGS5PRO installations: yours
> appears to be on your main boot partition and mine is on a second,
> 'pure' partition. However, the results are similar. I shall try the
> processor utilisation check and I hope you will display the free
> memory in the Workbench Title bar. It sounds as though PGS is doing
> something very processor intensive that grabs unused system memory
> until the system freezes to an unbootable stage.

I created a new PS 5 directory on my writing programs partition. I
don't put any programs on my main partition as I want to be able to
redo the OS without endangering any program or data files.

> I have a little more to add from my researches. I appended my 68k
> prefs (less the registration stuff) to the V5 preferences and the
> additional panels like the colour palette and page manager appeared.
> The system still freezes. I am beginning to suspect that the
> registration system (which GRs for me) is not creating the complete
> default prefs file and that missing entries are causing problems. If
> someone would like to post to me a working prefs file WITH THE
> REGISTRATION STUFF DELETED I will try out my theory.

> Two other things I will try,

> 1. Upgrading OS4 UD4 in case files have been damaged.
> 2. Starting again with the non-pro version.

> Regards
> Roy Leith

Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@nacs.net


2006-03-07 22:39:23 CT #8
Paul R. Zager
From: Unknown
Registered: 2004-08-16
Posts: 106

Roy and Larry,

> There is one difference between our PGS5PRO installations: yours
> appears to be on your main boot partition and mine is on a second,
> 'pure' partition. However, the results are similar. I shall try the
> processor utilisation check and I hope you will display the free
> memory in the Workbench Title bar. It sounds as though PGS is doing
> something very processor intensive that grabs unused system memory
> until the system freezes to an unbootable stage.

Your's does the same as Larry's, Roy? Larry's description sounds
IDENTICAL to what happens here with 5.x.x PRO PPC. With the latest .12
beta, I can actually continue to use the A1 (sort of), in that I can
still move the mouse and select other files. Earlier versions locked
up without even moving the mouse after trying to open PgS.

My program is installed on a separate partition from the system, like
Roy's, and I've tried it with the 68k PgS assigns commented out.If I
boot from the update 4 CD, i can also get the title bar of PgS along
with what Larry and I usually get open, but it's still unstable.
Removing 3rd party themes now allows the vertical toolbar and "little
box" to appear as before. With the "Chrome bolts" theme installed
under update 4, I didn't get ANYTHING on screen from PgS 5 .... .12
PRO.

What a mystery. So far, SnoopDOS logs from here haven't helped Deron.

> I have a little more to add from my researches. I appended my 68k
> prefs (less the registration stuff) to the V5 preferences and the
> additional panels like the colour palette and page manager appeared.
> The system still freezes. I am beginning to suspect that the
> registration system (which GRs for me) is not creating the complete
> default prefs file and that missing entries are causing problems. If
> someone would like to post to me a working prefs file WITH THE
> REGISTRATION STUFF DELETED I will try out my theory.

I tried renaming my v. 4 68k prefs and using them in place of my
current PPC prefs. It put the vertical tool bar where I'd expect it
with my prefs. But other than that, same results. Trying to re-open
Thor after opening PPC PgS this way resulted in . . . . nothing.

I'll try once more appending them like you did Roy and come back to
this.

Appending them to the PPC registration info did the same as above. It
put the vertical tool bar where I like it, but otherwise didn't give
anything useable. It DID pop up a GRIM, however. When I clicked "More"
on the GRIM it froze the system completely, and gave only the
following info:
Instruction pointer 0x01423110.
DSI error
Module kernel
Alert 80000003

Other lines listed "unknown". Before the GRIM locked everything up,
the title bar of Workbench showed a loss of 2 MB about every 6
seconds.

This is on a G4-XE with 512 MB on one stick, a REALLY good cooler on
the CPU, and a Sapphire Radeon 9100 with 64 MB

Here's the user prefs file: Note, like Roy, I had only the first
4 lines in the PPC beta. The rest is appended from version 4.

PREFERENCE FILE
USERNAME ""
USERCOMPANY
USERREGNUM
USERPASSWORD
RECENTFILES DataRazzgSdat/Churchpubs/Augtid.pgs
DataRazzgSdat/Churchpubs/Lent_Sched_06.pgs
DataRazzgSdat/DTP_Business/Ericbusicard.pgs
DataRazzgSdat/Formats/NewsFormat DataRazzgSdat/Personal/Danbirthday.pgs
DataRazzgSdat/Formats/BusCrd.doc DataRazzgSdat/Churchpubs/Ad2.pgs
DataRazzgSdat/Churchpubs/Decbak.pgs
SETUNDOLEVELS 4
SETREVISIONTRACKING OFF
SETBACKUP AUTOSAVE OFF AUTOBACKUP ON COUNT 3 PATH DataRazzgSdat/Backup
SETSMART DASHES ON BULLETS ON SINGLEQUOTES ON DOUBLEQUOTES ON
CHARACTERSET Amiga
SETFONT Triumvirate-Normal
SETTYPESIZE 12pt
SETTYPEWIDTH 100%
SETLANGUAGE American
SETPARAGRAPHSTYLE
SETCHARACTERSTYLE
SETALIGNMENT LEFT
SETBOLD OFF
SETITALIC OFF
SETUNDERLINE OFF
SETOUTLINE OFF
SETREVERSE OFF
SETSHADOW OFF
SETSMALLCAPS OFF
SETSCRIPT OFF
SETTRACKTABLE NORMAL
SETTRACKING 0%
SETLASTLINEFLUSH 0i
SETTRACKRANGE -10% 0% 20% 80% 100% 130%
SETLEADING RELATIVE 120% MAINTAIN OFF
SETBASELINELEADING RELATIVE 80%
SETINDENT NONE
SETFIRSTLINE NONE
SETPARAGRAPHLEADING BEFORE NONE AFTER NONE
SETRULEABOVE OFF
SETRULEBELOW OFF
SETNUMBERED OFF
SETBULLET OFF
SETDROPCAP OFF
SETTABRULER
SETDEFAULTTABSTOP 0.3333i
SETHYPHENATION OFF
SETHYPHENLANGUAGE DEFAULT DATA 6 3 2 1
SETKERNING ON KERNABOVE 4pt
SETLIGATURE ON ANY -20% 20%
SETHANGING ON
SETOPTICAL ON
SETMEASUREMENTS COORDINATE INCHES SAMEAS RELATIVE SAMEAS TEXT POINTS
FROM PAGE
SETDOUBLECLICK REQUESTER LINEFILL
SETDUPLICATEDEFAULTS 0.25i 0.25i
SETNUDGEDEFAULTS 0.125i
SETLIVEUPDATE SCROLL OFF DRAG OFF
SETVIEWDEFAULTS SCALE FULLPAGEWIDTH SCALERANGE 50% 600% GRID SHOW
SNAPTOGRID OFF DISPLAYGRID INBACK GUIDES SHOW SNAPTOGUIDES OFF
DISPLAYGUIDES INBACK RULER SHOW PICTURES SHOW DRAWINGS SHOW OUTLINE
SHOW TEXTLINKS HIDE INVISIBLES SHOW PAGECOLOR 255 255 255
PAGEBORDERCOLOR 0 0 0 PAGESHADOWCOLOR 170 170 170 PASTEBOARDCOLOR 230
230 230 GRIDCOLOR 0 0 0 PAGEGUIDECOLOR 0 255 255 RULERGUIDECOLOR 255 0
255
SETAUTOCOLUMNS ON LIKE MASTERPAGE
FILEFILTER FALSE
SETPASTEINCENTER ON
SELECTONPASTE ON
SETDOCUMENTPATH DataRazzgSdat
SETTEXTPATH DataRazzgSdat/ASCII
SETGRAPHICPATH Data:Scandat
SETSCRIPTPATH Scripts
SETSCRATCHPATH DataRazzgSdat/Temp
SETPDFPATH DataRazzgSdat/PDF
SETMAILMERGEPATH Text
SETPRINTPATH Documents
MAINTOOLBOX SHOW AT 988 26 VERTICAL
SETMAGNIFYINCREMENT 200% DRAGZOOM CENTER
SETCOLUMNDEFAULTS TRANSPARENT GUTTER 0.25i
SETBOXDEFAULTS CORNER 0.125i
SETARCDEFAULTS ANGLES 90° 360°
SETPOLYGONDEFAULTS SIDES 3 OFFSETANGLE 0° DEFLECTION 40%
ANGLEDEFLECTION 50%
TOOLBAR SHOW AT 0 26
SETTOOLBAR NEW OPEN SAVEDOC PRINT SPACE CUT COPY PASTE DELETE SPACE
UNDO REDO SPACE LINKTEXT BREAKTEXTROUTING SPACE INDENTLEFT INDENTRIGHT
HANGINGINDENT SPACE EXECUTE PREFERENCES SPACE LINEFILL INFORMATION
SETDIMENSIONS 8.5" 11" SINGLE PORTRAIT
SETMARGINGUIDES 0.5" 0.5" 0.5" 0.5"
SETCOLUMNGUIDES 1 0.25"
EDITPALETTE SHOW AT 11 706 COLLAPSED OFF
COLORPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
STYLEPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
LAYERPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
SCRIPTPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
PAGEPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
DOCUMENTPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
SETWINDOWDEFAULTS AT 7 52 SIZE 982 647
SETFONTCACHE 100 50 OPENFONTS 50
SETFONTPATH System:Fonts/TrueType
SCREEN Public 1024 768 16 "Radeon:1024x768 16bit PC" "Bitstream Vera
Sans.font" 16
DISPLAYDPI 68 70
SHOWMEMORY TRUE
SHOWDATE TRUE
SHOWTIME TRUE
CENTERONDCLIP TRUE
SETOUTPUT Preference
SETOUTPUT1 PORTRAIT
SETOUTPUT2 OFFSET DEFAULT CUSTOMOFFSET 0" 0" DENSITY 4 DITHER SL_FLOYD
SETOUTPUT3 CUSTOMFREQUENCY 60 60 60 60 CUSTOMANGLE 15 75 0 45
CUSTOMSPOT Dot Dot Dot Dot
SETOUTPUT4 CUSTOMGAMMA 1 1 1 1 CUSTOMUCRGCR 80% 100%

Paul Zager


2006-03-07 23:27:33 CT #9
Dr. Larry Keller
From: Unknown
Registered: 2005-06-22
Posts: 72

Hello Paul,

It is both interesting and discouraging to see three of us having
basically the same problem. My system locks and locks hard. I do hope
we can get this solved and not be confronting some individual anomalies
of what should be identical machines.

On 03/07/2006, you wrote:
> Roy and Larry,

>> There is one difference between our PGS5PRO installations: yours
>> appears to be on your main boot partition and mine is on a second,
>> 'pure' partition. However, the results are similar. I shall try the
>> processor utilisation check and I hope you will display the free
>> memory in the Workbench Title bar. It sounds as though PGS is doing
>> something very processor intensive that grabs unused system memory
>> until the system freezes to an unbootable stage.

> Your's does the same as Larry's, Roy? Larry's description sounds
> IDENTICAL to what happens here with 5.x.x PRO PPC. With the latest
> .12 beta, I can actually continue to use the A1 (sort of), in that I
> can still move the mouse and select other files. Earlier versions
> locked up without even moving the mouse after trying to open PgS.

> My program is installed on a separate partition from the system, like
> Roy's, and I've tried it with the 68k PgS assigns commented out.If I
> boot from the update 4 CD, i can also get the title bar of PgS along
> with what Larry and I usually get open, but it's still unstable.
> Removing 3rd party themes now allows the vertical toolbar and "little
> box" to appear as before. With the "Chrome bolts" theme installed
> under update 4, I didn't get ANYTHING on screen from PgS 5 .... .12
> PRO.

> What a mystery. So far, SnoopDOS logs from here haven't helped Deron.

>> I have a little more to add from my researches. I appended my 68k
>> prefs (less the registration stuff) to the V5 preferences and the
>> additional panels like the colour palette and page manager appeared.
>> The system still freezes. I am beginning to suspect that the
>> registration system (which GRs for me) is not creating the complete
>> default prefs file and that missing entries are causing problems. If
>> someone would like to post to me a working prefs file WITH THE
>> REGISTRATION STUFF DELETED I will try out my theory.

> I tried renaming my v. 4 68k prefs and using them in place of my
> current PPC prefs. It put the vertical tool bar where I'd expect it
> with my prefs. But other than that, same results. Trying to re-open
> Thor after opening PPC PgS this way resulted in . . . . nothing.

> I'll try once more appending them like you did Roy and come back to
> this.

> Appending them to the PPC registration info did the same as above. It
> put the vertical tool bar where I like it, but otherwise didn't give
> anything useable. It DID pop up a GRIM, however. When I clicked
> "More" on the GRIM it froze the system completely, and gave only the
> following info:
> Instruction pointer 0x01423110.
> DSI error
> Module kernel
> Alert 80000003

> Other lines listed "unknown". Before the GRIM locked everything up,
> the title bar of Workbench showed a loss of 2 MB about every 6
> seconds.

> This is on a G4-XE with 512 MB on one stick, a REALLY good cooler on
> the CPU, and a Sapphire Radeon 9100 with 64 MB

> Here's the user prefs file: Note, like Roy, I had only the
> first 4 lines in the PPC beta. The rest is appended from
> version 4.
> PREFERENCE FILE
> USERNAME ""
> USERCOMPANY
> USERREGNUM
> USERPASSWORD
> RECENTFILES DataRazzgSdat/Churchpubs/Augtid.pgs
> DataRazzgSdat/Churchpubs/Lent_Sched_06.pgs
> DataRazzgSdat/DTP_Business/Ericbusicard.pgs
> DataRazzgSdat/Formats/NewsFormat DataRazzgSdat/Personal/Danbirthday.pgs
> DataRazzgSdat/Formats/BusCrd.doc DataRazzgSdat/Churchpubs/Ad2.pgs
> DataRazzgSdat/Churchpubs/Decbak.pgs
> SETUNDOLEVELS 4
> SETREVISIONTRACKING OFF
> SETBACKUP AUTOSAVE OFF AUTOBACKUP ON COUNT 3 PATH DataRazzgSdat/Backup
> SETSMART DASHES ON BULLETS ON SINGLEQUOTES ON DOUBLEQUOTES ON
> CHARACTERSET Amiga
> SETFONT Triumvirate-Normal
> SETTYPESIZE 12pt
> SETTYPEWIDTH 100%
> SETLANGUAGE American
> SETPARAGRAPHSTYLE
> SETCHARACTERSTYLE
> SETALIGNMENT LEFT
> SETBOLD OFF
> SETITALIC OFF
> SETUNDERLINE OFF
> SETOUTLINE OFF
> SETREVERSE OFF
> SETSHADOW OFF
> SETSMALLCAPS OFF
> SETSCRIPT OFF
> SETTRACKTABLE NORMAL
> SETTRACKING 0%
> SETLASTLINEFLUSH 0i
> SETTRACKRANGE -10% 0% 20% 80% 100% 130%
> SETLEADING RELATIVE 120% MAINTAIN OFF
> SETBASELINELEADING RELATIVE 80%
> SETINDENT NONE
> SETFIRSTLINE NONE
> SETPARAGRAPHLEADING BEFORE NONE AFTER NONE
> SETRULEABOVE OFF
> SETRULEBELOW OFF
> SETNUMBERED OFF
> SETBULLET OFF
> SETDROPCAP OFF
> SETTABRULER
> SETDEFAULTTABSTOP 0.3333i
> SETHYPHENATION OFF
> SETHYPHENLANGUAGE DEFAULT DATA 6 3 2 1
> SETKERNING ON KERNABOVE 4pt
> SETLIGATURE ON ANY -20% 20%
> SETHANGING ON
> SETOPTICAL ON
> SETMEASUREMENTS COORDINATE INCHES SAMEAS RELATIVE SAMEAS TEXT POINTS
> FROM PAGE
> SETDOUBLECLICK REQUESTER LINEFILL
> SETDUPLICATEDEFAULTS 0.25i 0.25i
> SETNUDGEDEFAULTS 0.125i
> SETLIVEUPDATE SCROLL OFF DRAG OFF
> SETVIEWDEFAULTS SCALE FULLPAGEWIDTH SCALERANGE 50% 600% GRID SHOW
> SNAPTOGRID OFF DISPLAYGRID INBACK GUIDES SHOW SNAPTOGUIDES OFF
> DISPLAYGUIDES INBACK RULER SHOW PICTURES SHOW DRAWINGS SHOW OUTLINE
> SHOW TEXTLINKS HIDE INVISIBLES SHOW PAGECOLOR 255 255 255
> PAGEBORDERCOLOR 0 0 0 PAGESHADOWCOLOR 170 170 170 PASTEBOARDCOLOR 230
> 230 230 GRIDCOLOR 0 0 0 PAGEGUIDECOLOR 0 255 255 RULERGUIDECOLOR 255
> 0 255
> SETAUTOCOLUMNS ON LIKE MASTERPAGE
> FILEFILTER FALSE
> SETPASTEINCENTER ON
> SELECTONPASTE ON
> SETDOCUMENTPATH DataRazzgSdat
> SETTEXTPATH DataRazzgSdat/ASCII
> SETGRAPHICPATH Data:Scandat
> SETSCRIPTPATH Scripts
> SETSCRATCHPATH DataRazzgSdat/Temp
> SETPDFPATH DataRazzgSdat/PDF
> SETMAILMERGEPATH Text
> SETPRINTPATH Documents
> MAINTOOLBOX SHOW AT 988 26 VERTICAL
> SETMAGNIFYINCREMENT 200% DRAGZOOM CENTER
> SETCOLUMNDEFAULTS TRANSPARENT GUTTER 0.25i
> SETBOXDEFAULTS CORNER 0.125i
> SETARCDEFAULTS ANGLES 90° 360°
> SETPOLYGONDEFAULTS SIDES 3 OFFSETANGLE 0° DEFLECTION 40%
> ANGLEDEFLECTION 50%
> TOOLBAR SHOW AT 0 26
> SETTOOLBAR NEW OPEN SAVEDOC PRINT SPACE CUT COPY PASTE DELETE SPACE
> UNDO REDO SPACE LINKTEXT BREAKTEXTROUTING SPACE INDENTLEFT
> INDENTRIGHT HANGINGINDENT SPACE EXECUTE PREFERENCES SPACE LINEFILL
> INFORMATION SETDIMENSIONS 8.5" 11" SINGLE PORTRAIT
> SETMARGINGUIDES 0.5" 0.5" 0.5" 0.5"
> SETCOLUMNGUIDES 1 0.25"
> EDITPALETTE SHOW AT 11 706 COLLAPSED OFF
> COLORPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
> STYLEPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
> LAYERPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
> SCRIPTPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
> PAGEPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
> DOCUMENTPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
> SETWINDOWDEFAULTS AT 7 52 SIZE 982 647
> SETFONTCACHE 100 50 OPENFONTS 50
> SETFONTPATH System:Fonts/TrueType
> SCREEN Public 1024 768 16 "Radeon:1024x768 16bit PC" "Bitstream Vera
> Sans.font" 16
> DISPLAYDPI 68 70
> SHOWMEMORY TRUE
> SHOWDATE TRUE
> SHOWTIME TRUE
> CENTERONDCLIP TRUE
> SETOUTPUT Preference
> SETOUTPUT1 PORTRAIT
> SETOUTPUT2 OFFSET DEFAULT CUSTOMOFFSET 0" 0" DENSITY 4 DITHER
> SL_FLOYD SETOUTPUT3 CUSTOMFREQUENCY 60 60 60 60 CUSTOMANGLE 15 75 0
> 45 CUSTOMSPOT Dot Dot Dot Dot
> SETOUTPUT4 CUSTOMGAMMA 1 1 1 1 CUSTOMUCRGCR 80% 100%

> Paul Zager

>
> Yahoo! Groups Links

>


>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@nacs.net


2006-03-07 23:38:12 CT #10
Deron Kazmaier
From: United States
Registered: 2006-01-29
Posts: 4639


>Hello Paul,
>
> It is both interesting and discouraging to see three of us having
>basically the same problem. My system locks and locks hard. I do hope
>we can get this solved and not be confronting some individual anomalies
>of what should be identical machines.

Just so you know, I am reading and trying to figure out something to either
test or some place to start looking. Keep playing!

I've fixed a number of bugs, and I'll keep plugging till the end of the
week. Hopefully I'll at least have an idea of where to put some debug
statements in for you or something by then.

Deron

> > Roy and Larry,
>
> >> There is one difference between our PGS5PRO installations: yours
> >> appears to be on your main boot partition and mine is on a second,
> >> 'pure' partition. However, the results are similar. I shall try the
> >> processor utilisation check and I hope you will display the free
> >> memory in the Workbench Title bar. It sounds as though PGS is doing
> >> something very processor intensive that grabs unused system memory
> >> until the system freezes to an unbootable stage.
>
> > Your's does the same as Larry's, Roy? Larry's description sounds
> > IDENTICAL to what happens here with 5.x.x PRO PPC. With the latest
> > .12 beta, I can actually continue to use the A1 (sort of), in that I
> > can still move the mouse and select other files. Earlier versions
> > locked up without even moving the mouse after trying to open PgS.
>
> > My program is installed on a separate partition from the system, like
> > Roy's, and I've tried it with the 68k PgS assigns commented out.If I
> > boot from the update 4 CD, i can also get the title bar of PgS along
> > with what Larry and I usually get open, but it's still unstable.
> > Removing 3rd party themes now allows the vertical toolbar and "little
> > box" to appear as before. With the "Chrome bolts" theme installed
> > under update 4, I didn't get ANYTHING on screen from PgS 5 .... .12
> > PRO.
>
> > What a mystery. So far, SnoopDOS logs from here haven't helped Deron.
>
> >> I have a little more to add from my researches. I appended my 68k
> >> prefs (less the registration stuff) to the V5 preferences and the
> >> additional panels like the colour palette and page manager appeared.
> >> The system still freezes. I am beginning to suspect that the
> >> registration system (which GRs for me) is not creating the complete
> >> default prefs file and that missing entries are causing problems. If
> >> someone would like to post to me a working prefs file WITH THE
> >> REGISTRATION STUFF DELETED I will try out my theory.
>
> > I tried renaming my v. 4 68k prefs and using them in place of my
> > current PPC prefs. It put the vertical tool bar where I'd expect it
> > with my prefs. But other than that, same results. Trying to re-open
> > Thor after opening PPC PgS this way resulted in . . . . nothing.
>
> > I'll try once more appending them like you did Roy and come back to
> > this.
>
> > Appending them to the PPC registration info did the same as above. It
> > put the vertical tool bar where I like it, but otherwise didn't give
> > anything useable. It DID pop up a GRIM, however. When I clicked
> > "More" on the GRIM it froze the system completely, and gave only the
> > following info:
> > Instruction pointer 0x01423110.
> > DSI error
> > Module kernel
> > Alert 80000003
>
> > Other lines listed "unknown". Before the GRIM locked everything up,
> > the title bar of Workbench showed a loss of 2 MB about every 6
> > seconds.
>
> > This is on a G4-XE with 512 MB on one stick, a REALLY good cooler on
> > the CPU, and a Sapphire Radeon 9100 with 64 MB
>
> > Here's the user prefs file: Note, like Roy, I had only the
> > first 4 lines in the PPC beta. The rest is appended from
> > version 4.
>


Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream
DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows


2006-03-08 04:03:27 CT #11
Dr. Larry Keller
From: Unknown
Registered: 2005-06-22
Posts: 72

Hello Deron,

On 03/08/2006, you wrote:

>>Hello Paul,
>>
>> It is both interesting and discouraging to see three of us having
>>basically the same problem. My system locks and locks hard. I do
>> hopewe can get this solved and not be confronting some individual
>> anomaliesof what should be identical machines.

> Just so you know, I am reading and trying to figure out something to
> either test or some place to start looking. Keep playing!

> I've fixed a number of bugs, and I'll keep plugging till the end of
> the week. Hopefully I'll at least have an idea of where to put some
> debug statements in for you or something by then.

> Deron

Thanks for all of your persistence. I believe it is just a matter of
time - at least from my perspective.Smile I truly appreciate both the
power and elegance of your work. Just let us know how we can provide
you with the best information.

I am curious if you have any impressions of the Micro-AmigaOne that
you could share. I assume you use a variety of computers and your
views would be interesting.

>> > Roy and Larry,
>>
--- Lots of text snipped ---
>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@nacs.net


2006-03-08 09:47:44 CT #12
Roy Leith
From: United Kingdom
Registered: 2006-02-23
Posts: 171

--- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, "Paul R. Zager"
<paulrzager@...> wrote:
>
> Roy and Larry,
>
> > There is one difference between our PGS5PRO installations: yours
> > appears to be on your main boot partition and mine is on a second,
> > 'pure' partition. However, the results are similar. I shall try
the
> > processor utilisation check and I hope you will display the free
> > memory in the Workbench Title bar. It sounds as though PGS is
doing
> > something very processor intensive that grabs unused system memory
> > until the system freezes to an unbootable stage.
>
> Your's does the same as Larry's, Roy? Larry's description sounds
> IDENTICAL to what happens here with 5.x.x PRO PPC. With the latest .
12
> beta, I can actually continue to use the A1 (sort of), in that I can
> still move the mouse and select other files. Earlier versions locked
> up without even moving the mouse after trying to open PgS.
>
> My program is installed on a separate partition from the system,
like
> Roy's, and I've tried it with the 68k PgS assigns commented out.If I
> boot from the update 4 CD, i can also get the title bar of PgS along
> with what Larry and I usually get open, but it's still unstable.
> Removing 3rd party themes now allows the vertical toolbar and
"little
> box" to appear as before. With the "Chrome bolts" theme installed
> under update 4, I didn't get ANYTHING on screen from PgS 5 .... .12
> PRO.
>
> What a mystery. So far, SnoopDOS logs from here haven't helped
Deron.

I think you and Larry have misunderstood. I have installed OS4 on a
second partition and then booted into that before installing
Pagestream in the same partition. To try Pagestream, I boot into the
second partition and then run Pagestream. I get the same result as you
and Dr. Larry. I can use the mouse and select windows for a while, but
displaying free memory on the Workbench title bar shows that it
steadily drops until about 200MB at which time it totally freezes.

If I append my V4 pref settings to V5 prefs then I get the same as
yourself. Once the program is registered it GRs and 'More' brings the
total freeze and the indication of an ISI crash in kernel. Rebooting
into the 'pure' partition and running PGS continues to produce the
same GR and freezing.

>
> > I have a little more to add from my researches. I appended my 68k
> > prefs (less the registration stuff) to the V5 preferences and the
> > additional panels like the colour palette and page manager
appeared.
> > The system still freezes. I am beginning to suspect that the
> > registration system (which GRs for me) is not creating the
complete
> > default prefs file and that missing entries are causing problems.
If
> > someone would like to post to me a working prefs file WITH THE
> > REGISTRATION STUFF DELETED I will try out my theory.
>
> I tried renaming my v. 4 68k prefs and using them in place of my
> current PPC prefs. It put the vertical tool bar where I'd expect it
> with my prefs. But other than that, same results. Trying to re-open
> Thor after opening PPC PgS this way resulted in . . . . nothing.
>
> I'll try once more appending them like you did Roy and come back to
> this.
>
> Appending them to the PPC registration info did the same as above.
It
> put the vertical tool bar where I like it, but otherwise didn't give
> anything useable. It DID pop up a GRIM, however. When I clicked
"More"
> on the GRIM it froze the system completely, and gave only the
> following info:
> Instruction pointer 0x01423110.
> DSI error
> Module kernel
> Alert 80000003
>
> Other lines listed "unknown". Before the GRIM locked everything up,
> the title bar of Workbench showed a loss of 2 MB about every 6
> seconds.
>
> This is on a G4-XE with 512 MB on one stick, a REALLY good cooler on
> the CPU, and a Sapphire Radeon 9100 with 64 MB
>
> Here's the user prefs file: Note, like Roy, I had only the
first
> 4 lines in the PPC beta. The rest is appended from version 4.
>

As I say, above, I get the identical thing here.

The thing Larry, you and I have in common is an XE G4. I repeat my
plea to those who have had more success to report if it was G4/G3, XE/
SE/&#956;A1 and to append the non-registration part of their prefs file. I
remember that IBrowse users with a &#956;A1 initially had crashes whereas I
had none. IIRC, Deron is developing on a &#956;A1.

Regards
Roy Leith


2006-03-08 09:50:59 CT #13
Paolo Vanni
From: Italy
Registered: 2006-02-07
Posts: 18

Hi Roy,
>
> Two things you could help me out with,
>
> 1. The information about the motherboard and video card (if any) you
> > are using. Are you, perhaps, a �AOne user? I am wondering if this
is a > processor based problem bearing in mind that Deron is using a �A1.
>

I own an A1XE-G4 512MB registered ram a voodoo3 3000 and a sil680 card
I have AOS4 Upd4 but I done an upgrade instead of a fresh install.

> 2. The contents of the prefs file you are using BUT, WITH THE EARLY
> REGISTRATION LINES DELETED.
here my prefs file:

PREFERENCE FILE
SETUNDOLEVELS 4
SETREVISIONTRACKING OFF
SETBACKUP AUTOSAVE OFF AUTOBACKUP ON COUNT 3 PATH ~/Documents/Backups
RSRCLOCALE en_US
SETSMART DASHES ON BULLETS ON SINGLEQUOTES ON DOUBLEQUOTES ON
CHARACTERSET
SETFONT Triumvirate-Normal
SETTYPESIZE 12pt
SETTYPEWIDTH 100%
SETLANGUAGE American
SETPARAGRAPHSTYLE
SETCHARACTERSTYLE
SETALIGNMENT LEFT
SETBOLD OFF
SETITALIC OFF
SETUNDERLINE OFF
SETOUTLINE OFF
SETREVERSE OFF
SETSHADOW OFF
SETSMALLCAPS OFF
SETSCRIPT OFF
SETTRACKTABLE NORMAL
SETTRACKING 0%
SETLASTLINEFLUSH 0i
SETTRACKRANGE -10% 0% 20% 80% 100% 130%
SETTRACKSTRETCH -5% 0% 5%
SETLEADING RELATIVE 120% MAINTAIN OFF
SETBASELINELEADING RELATIVE 80%
SETINDENT NONE
SETFIRSTLINE NONE
SETPARAGRAPHLEADING BEFORE NONE AFTER NONE
SETWIDOWORPHAN OFF
SETNUMBERED OFF
SETBULLET OFF
SETDROPCAP OFF
SETRULEABOVE OFF
SETRULEBELOW OFF
SETTABRULER
SETDEFAULTTABSTOP 0.3333i
SETHYPHENATION OFF
SETHYPHENLANGUAGE DEFAULT DATA 6 3 2 1
SETKERNING ON KERNABOVE 4pt
SETLIGATURE ON ANY -20% 20%
SETHANGING OFF
SETOPTICAL OFF
SETMEASUREMENTS COORDINATE CENTIMETERS SAMEAS RELATIVE SAMEAS TEXT
POINTS FROM PAGE
SETDOUBLECLICK REQUESTER LINEFILL
SETDUPLICATEDEFAULTS 0.635cm 0.635cm
SETNUDGEDEFAULTS 0.318cm
SETLIVEUPDATE SCROLL OFF DRAG OFF
SETVIEWDEFAULTS SCALE FULLPAGE SCALERANGE 5% 3000% GRID SHOW
SNAPTOGRID ON DISPLAYGRID INBACK GUIDES SHOW SNAPTOGUIDES ON
DISPLAYGUIDES INBACK RULER SHOW PICTURES SHOW DRAWINGS SHOW OUTLINE
SHOW TEXTLINKS HIDE INVISIBLES HIDE WIREFRAME HIDE PAGECOLOR 255 255
255 PAGEBORDERCOLOR 0 0 0 PAGESHADOWCOLOR 170 170 170 PASTEBOARDCOLOR
230 230 230 GRIDCOLOR 0 0 0 PAGEGUIDECOLOR 0 255 255 RULERGUIDECOLOR
255 0 255
SETAUTOCOLUMNS OFF
FILEFILTER FALSE
SETPASTEINCENTER ON
SELECTONPASTE ON
CREATEFILEICON ON
SETDOCUMENTPATH Documents
SETTEXTPATH ~/Text
SETGRAPHICPATH ~/Graphics
SETSCRIPTPATH Scripts
SETSCRATCHPATH ~/Documents/Backups
SETPDFPATH Documents
SETMAILMERGEPATH Text
SETPRINTPATH Documents
SETTEXTEDITOR "Scripts/Send to PageLiner"
SETBITMAPEDITOR "Scripts/Send to BME"
SETDRAWINGEDITOR "Scripts/Send to ArtExp"
MAINTOOLBOX SHOW AT -1 -1 VERTICAL SMALL
SETMAGNIFYINCREMENT 200% DRAGZOOM CENTER
SETCOLUMNDEFAULTS OPAQUE GUTTER 0.635cm
SETBOXDEFAULTS CORNER 0.318cm
SETARCDEFAULTS ANGLES 90� 360�
SETPOLYGONDEFAULTS SIDES 5 OFFSETANGLE 0� DEFLECTION 40%
ANGLEDEFLECTION 50%
TOOLBAR SHOW AT 42 26
SETTOOLBAR NEW OPEN SAVEDOC PRINT SPACE CUT COPY PASTE DELETE SPACE
UNDO REDO SPACE LINKTEXT BREAKTEXTROUTING SPACE INDENTLEFT INDENTRIGHT
HANGINGINDENT SPACE EXECUTE PREFERENCES SPACE LINEFILL INFORMATION
RECENTFILES Home:Casa/EdichettaCitofono.pgs "RAM Disk:Untitled"
Paolo:NuovoLavoro/Fatture/2005/Emesse/Fattura_2_N.pgs
SETDIMENSIONS 21cm 29.7cm SINGLE PORTRAIT
SETBLEED 0cm 0cm
SETMARGINGUIDES 1.27cm 1.27cm 2.54cm 2.54cm
SETCOLUMNGUIDES 1 0.635cm
SETFONTCACHE 2000 1000 OPENFONTS 100
SETFONTPATH AOS4:FontsTTF/_TrueType/
EDITPALETTE SHOW AT -1 -2 COLLAPSED OFF
COLORPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
STYLEPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
LAYERPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
SCRIPTPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
PAGEPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
DOCUMENTPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
SETWINDOWDEFAULTS AT -3 -3 SIZE -3 -3
SETNAVIGATORDEFAULTS SIZE 100 100


Regards,
Paolo


2006-03-08 09:56:32 CT #14
Roy Leith
From: United Kingdom
Registered: 2006-02-23
Posts: 171

--- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, PageStream Support
<support@...> wrote:

>
> Just so you know, I am reading and trying to figure out something to
either
> test or some place to start looking. Keep playing!
>
> I've fixed a number of bugs, and I'll keep plugging till the end of
the
> week. Hopefully I'll at least have an idea of where to put some
debug
> statements in for you or something by then.
>
> Deron
>

Deron, you could help us a lot by publishing the default user prefs
that get appended to the registration lines after a correct
installation. I have a feeling that the registration is GRing before
the prefs are fully set up and this may prevent the program from fully
loading.

Thanks for your support.

Regards
Roy Leith


2006-03-08 12:47:15 CT #15
Luca Ricossa
From: Switzerland
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 124

--- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, "royleith" <r.m.leith@...> wrote:

> Deron, you could help us a lot by publishing the default user prefs > that get appended to the registration lines after a correct
> installation.

Here is mine, without reg. Pay attention to the fact that many lines point to directories in my computer!

********************************
SETFONTCACHE 20000 10000 OPENFONTS 100
SETFONTPATH Fonts/
RECENTFILES Documents/25_dec.pgs pagestreamVery Happyocuments/gregoriano/Kiev/Iasi.pgs Documents/Multilingual pagestreamVery Happyocuments/Bizantino/05_03_06_Triodion_04.pgs pagestreamVery Happyocuments/SalterioGreco DueRazzDF/ActaMusicaeByz/Italogreci.pdf /PageStream/Documents/gregoriano/Kiev/Iasi.pgs Documents/Karas.ps
SETDIMENSIONS 21cm 29.7cm SINGLE PORTRAIT
SETBLEED 0cm 0cm
SETMARGINGUIDES 2cm 2cm 2cm 2cm
SETCOLUMNGUIDES 1 0.635cm
SETUNDOLEVELS 4
SETREVISIONTRACKING OFF
SETBACKUP AUTOSAVE OFF AUTOBACKUP ON COUNT 1 PATH DueRazzagestreamPPC/Documents/Back/
RSRCLOCALE en_US
SETSMART DASHES ON BULLETS ON SINGLEQUOTES ON DOUBLEQUOTES ON
CHARACTERSET UTF8
SETFONT "Times New Roman Regular"
SETTYPESIZE 14pt
SETTYPEWIDTH 100%
SETLANGUAGE Francais
SETPARAGRAPHSTYLE
SETCHARACTERSTYLE
SETALIGNMENT JUSTIFY
SETBOLD OFF
SETITALIC OFF
SETUNDERLINE OFF
SETOUTLINE OFF
SETREVERSE OFF
SETSHADOW OFF
SETSMALLCAPS OFF
SETSCRIPT OFF
SETTRACKTABLE NORMAL
SETTRACKING 0%
SETLASTLINEFLUSH 0cm
SETTRACKRANGE -10% 0% 20% 80% 100% 130%
SETTRACKSTRETCH -5% 0% 5%
SETLEADING RELATIVE 120% MAINTAIN OFF
SETBASELINELEADING RELATIVE 80%
SETINDENT NONE
SETFIRSTLINE INDENT 0.5cm
SETPARAGRAPHLEADING BEFORE NONE AFTER RELATIVE 10%
SETWIDOWORPHAN OFF
SETNUMBERED OFF
SETBULLET OFF
SETDROPCAP OFF
SETRULEABOVE OFF
SETRULEBELOW OFF
SETTABRULER
SETDEFAULTTABSTOP 0.847cm
SETHYPHENATION ON ZONE 0cm 1
SETHYPHENLANGUAGE Francais DATA 6 3 2 1
SETKERNING ON KERNABOVE 4pt
SETLIGATURE ON ANY -20% 20%
SETHANGING OFF
SETOPTICAL OFF
SETMEASUREMENTS COORDINATE CENTIMETERS SAMEAS RELATIVE SAMEAS TEXT POINTS FROM PAGE
SETDOUBLECLICK REQUESTER LINEFILL
SETDUPLICATEDEFAULTS 0cm 0.4cm
SETNUDGEDEFAULTS 0.4cm
SETLIVEUPDATE SCROLL OFF DRAG OFF
SETVIEWDEFAULTS SCALE 160% SCALERANGE 5% 3000% GRID HIDE SNAPTOGRID OFF DISPLAYGRID INBACK GUIDES SHOW SNAPTOGUIDES ON DISPLAYGUIDES INBACK RULER SHOW PICTURES SHOW DRAWINGS SHOW OUTLINE SHOW TEXTLINKS HIDE INVISIBLES HIDE WIREFRAME HIDE PAGECOLOR 255 255 255 PAGEBORDERCOLOR 0 0 0 PAGESHADOWCOLOR 170 170 170 PASTEBOARDCOLOR 230 230 230 GRIDCOLOR 0 0 0 PAGEGUIDECOLOR 0 255 255 RULERGUIDECOLOR 255 0 255
SETAUTOCOLUMNS OFF
FILEFILTER FALSE
SETPASTEINCENTER ON
SELECTONPASTE ON
CREATEFILEICON ON
SETDOCUMENTPATH Documents
SETTEXTPATH Text
SETGRAPHICPATH Graphics
SETSCRIPTPATH Scripts
SETSCRATCHPATH Documents/Backups
SETPDFPATH Documents
SETMAILMERGEPATH Text
SETPRINTPATH Documents
SETTEXTEDITOR "Scripts/Send to PageLiner"
SETBITMAPEDITOR "Scripts/Send to BME"
SETDRAWINGEDITOR "Scripts/Send to ArtExp"
MAINTOOLBOX SHOW AT -1 -1 VERTICAL SMALL
SETMAGNIFYINCREMENT 200% DRAGZOOM CENTER
SETCOLUMNDEFAULTS OPAQUE GUTTER 0.635cm
SETBOXDEFAULTS CORNER 0.318cm
SETARCDEFAULTS ANGLES 90° 360°
SETPOLYGONDEFAULTS SIDES 5 OFFSETANGLE 0° DEFLECTION 40% ANGLEDEFLECTION 50%
TOOLBAR SHOW AT 0 23
SETTOOLBAR NEW OPEN SAVEDOC PRINT SCRIPT "Print Page" 6 SPACE CUT COPY PASTE DELETE MANUALHYPHENATION MAKEUPPER MAKELOWER PLACEGRAPHIC SENDTOEDITOR SPACE UNDO REDO DEFINETEXTSTYLES DEFINECOLORS INSERTPAGE DELETEPAGE SPACE LINKTEXT BREAKTEXTROUTING SPACE SPACE EXECUTE SAVEPDF PREFERENCES SPACE LINEFILL INFORMATION
EDITPALETTE SHOW AT -1 -2 COLLAPSED OFF
COLORPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
STYLEPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
LAYERPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
SCRIPTPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
PAGEPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
DOCUMENTPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
SETWINDOWDEFAULTS AT -3 -3 SIZE -3 -3
SETNAVIGATORDEFAULTS SIZE 100 100
SETOUTPUT PostScript PostScript
SETOUTPUT1 SOURCE OnlyOne PAPER A4 8.2639\" 11.6944\" 0\" 0\" PORTRAIT
SETOUTPUT2 PPD DueRazzageStream/SoftLogik/Printers/PPD/adistill.ppd SENDTO DISKFILE
SETOUTPUT3 CYANSCREEN DEFAULT DEFAULT MAGENTASCREEN DEFAULT DEFAULT YELLOWSCREEN DEFAULT DEFAULT BLACKSCREEN DEFAULT DEFAULT SPOTSCREEN DEFAULT DEFAULT
SETOUTPUT4 INCLUDEERRORHANDLER FALSE INCLUDEEOF FALSE
SETOUTPUT5 FONTUNLOAD DOCUMENT UCR 80% GCR 100% DUPLEX


2006-03-08 10:24:53 CT #16
Deron Kazmaier
From: United States
Registered: 2006-01-29
Posts: 4639


> > Just so you know, I am reading and trying to figure out something to
> either
> > test or some place to start looking. Keep playing!
> >
> > I've fixed a number of bugs, and I'll keep plugging till the end of the
> > week. Hopefully I'll at least have an idea of where to put some debug
> > statements in for you or something by then.
> >
> > Deron
> >
>
>Deron, you could help us a lot by publishing the default user prefs
>that get appended to the registration lines after a correct
>installation. I have a feeling that the registration is GRing before
>the prefs are fully set up and this may prevent the program from fully
>loading.

That would not be it. You can store a default pref file in the same folder
as PageStream, and it will get loaded the first time, and when you save it
will be "copied" to the UserPrefs folder. However, I don't ship with one,
and one is not needed. Until you go to prefs and save yourself, nothing is
kept in the user prefs except your personal data.

Normally, if a problem is going to occur in prefs, the problem is related
to old stuff. I would be very surprised if a problem develops because of
not having old prefs Wink Not saying it isn't possible, just unlikely.

After you enter your registration details, and it crashes, does it ask for
the details the next time around? Ie, did your details get written to
UserPrefs/PageStream5.prefs ??


>Thanks for your support.
>
>Regards
>Roy Leith


Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream
DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows


2006-03-08 10:36:01 CT #17
Deron Kazmaier
From: United States
Registered: 2006-01-29
Posts: 4639


>
>Deron.

Actually, I didn't write any of the above, but not a problem.

>I think you and Larry have misunderstood. I have installed OS4 on a
>second partition and then booted into that before installing
>Pagestream in the same partition. To try Pagestream, I boot into the
>second partition and then run Pagestream. I get the same result as you
>and Dr. Larry. I can use the mouse and select windows for a while, but
>displaying free memory on the Workbench title bar shows that it
>steadily drops until about 200MB at which time it totally freezes.

Agreed, that is totally different than what Paul(?) was saying.

>If I append my V4 pref settings to V5 prefs then I get the same as
>yourself. Once the program is registered it GRs and 'More' brings the
>total freeze and the indication of an ISI crash in kernel. Rebooting
>into the 'pure' partition and running PGS continues to produce the
>same GR and freezing.

Well, it would be nice if this is caused by something as simple as a line
in prefs. If isolated I can try and reproduce it here. If you can email me
the pref file at support@ I will see if it crashes here.

I'm curious if anyone who is crashing after registration has a previous
pref file however. Standard behaviour I would think would be to install the
new PageStream in a new folder with no defaults.

> > > I have a little more to add from my researches. I appended my 68k
> > > prefs (less the registration stuff) to the V5 preferences and the
> > > additional panels like the colour palette and page manager appeared.

I know this is someone else writing this, but I missed it before. These
panels appearing are as a result of your prefs because the default is only
the edit palette, toolbar and toolbox to be open. Them know opening doesn't
really mean to much.

>Regards
>Roy Leith


Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream
DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows


2006-03-08 11:44:28 CT #18
Dr. Larry Keller
From: Unknown
Registered: 2005-06-22
Posts: 72

Hello PageStream,

On 03/08/2006, you wrote:

> After you enter your registration details, and it crashes, does it
> ask for the details the next time around? Ie, did your details get
> written to UserPrefs/PageStream5.prefs ??

I can enter my registration and that is fine the next time around.
However, I cannot get to the prefs as my system locks as soon as a
toolbar or two appears.

>>Thanks for your support.
>>
>>Regards
>>Roy Leith


> Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
> Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
>
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows
>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@nacs.net


2006-03-08 11:47:01 CT #19
Dr. Larry Keller
From: Unknown
Registered: 2005-06-22
Posts: 72

Hello Deron,

On 03/08/2006, you wrote:

> I'm curious if anyone who is crashing after registration has a
> previous pref file however. Standard behaviour I would think would
> be to install the new PageStream in a new folder with no defaults.

I installed all the betas in their own directory with no prefs. I
eliminated the assigns from PS 4 which continues to work well with no
problems.

> Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
> Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
>
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows
>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@nacs.net


2006-03-09 10:17:43 CT #20
Roy Leith
From: United Kingdom
Registered: 2006-02-23
Posts: 171

--- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, "Paolo Vanni" <pvanni@...>
wrote:

>
> I own an A1XE-G4 512MB registered ram a voodoo3 3000 and a sil680
card
> I have AOS4 Upd4 but I done an upgrade instead of a fresh install.
>
> > 2. The contents of the prefs file you are using BUT, WITH THE
EARLY
> > REGISTRATION LINES DELETED.
> here my prefs file:
>
> PREFERENCE FILE
> SETUNDOLEVELS 4

> Regards,
> Paolo

Thanks, Paolo. I copied the prefs data to my prefs file, but PGS is
still behaving as before. You have confirmed that it is not hardware
related. The main difference between your system and mine and Dr.
Larry's is the video card. I use the same sil680 as you, but I think
Dr. Larry is using a SATA drive.

That's the end of my bright ideas. I will have to wait for Deron to
produce a bughunter.

Regards
Roy Leith


2006-03-09 10:30:33 CT #21
Roy Leith
From: United Kingdom
Registered: 2006-02-23
Posts: 171

--- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, PageStream Support
<support@...> wrote:

> >
> >Deron, you could help us a lot by publishing the default user prefs
> >that get appended to the registration lines after a correct
> >installation. I have a feeling that the registration is GRing
before
> >the prefs are fully set up and this may prevent the program from
fully
> >loading.
>
> That would not be it. You can store a default pref file in the same
folder
> as PageStream, and it will get loaded the first time, and when you
save it
> will be "copied" to the UserPrefs folder. However, I don't ship with
one,
> and one is not needed. Until you go to prefs and save yourself,
nothing is
> kept in the user prefs except your personal data.
>
> Normally, if a problem is going to occur in prefs, the problem is
related
> to old stuff. I would be very surprised if a problem develops
because of
> not having old prefs Wink Not saying it isn't possible, just
unlikely.
>

I tried copying the prefs offered by other contributors and, you are
quite correct, nothing changes. Thanks for the info that only the
personal data is stored by default. It seems that this is happening
successfully on registration.

> After you enter your registration details, and it crashes, does it
ask for
> the details the next time around? Ie, did your details get written
to
> UserPrefs/PageStream5.prefs ??

It does not ask for registration details a second time. It seems
satisfied by the personal data copied into the user prefs file.

BTW other XE G4 users have mentioned that they have got it going, so I
have to withdraw my suggestion of processor problems!

Regards
Roy Leith

PS The 68k version of V4 is working very well with JIT. It's a handy
way of printing out .c files in a compact font to reduce word
wrapping. The files print much more speedily with JIT.

2006-03-09 07:15:52 CT #22
Dr. Larry Keller
From: Unknown
Registered: 2005-06-22
Posts: 72

Hello Roy,

On 03/09/2006, you wrote:
> --- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, "Paolo Vanni"
> <pvanni@...> wrote:

>>
>> I own an A1XE-G4 512MB registered ram a voodoo3 3000 and a sil680
> card
>> I have AOS4 Upd4 but I done an upgrade instead of a fresh install.
>>
>> > 2. The contents of the prefs file you are using BUT, WITH THE
> EARLY
>> > REGISTRATION LINES DELETED.
>> here my prefs file:
>>
>> PREFERENCE FILE
>> SETUNDOLEVELS 4

>> Regards,
>> Paolo

> Thanks, Paolo. I copied the prefs data to my prefs file, but PGS is
> still behaving as before. You have confirmed that it is not hardware
> related. The main difference between your system and mine and Dr.
> Larry's is the video card. I use the same sil680 as you, but I think
> Dr. Larry is using a SATA drive.

I do have a SATA drive. I also installed the recent updated ide
drivers. I agree with Roy that bug hunting is the only way to solve
this mystery.

> That's the end of my bright ideas. I will have to wait for Deron to
> produce a bughunter.

> Regards
> Roy Leith
>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@nacs.net


2006-03-09 10:23:49 CT #23
Paul R. Zager
From: Unknown
Registered: 2004-08-16
Posts: 106

Deron,

> I can enter my registration and that is fine the next time around.
> However, I cannot get to the prefs as my system locks as soon as a
> toolbar or two appears.

Yeah, what Larry said. This is what mine does, too. Mouse selection
still works for me in a limited way after the vertical tool bar opens,
but other programs will not run.

Last night I booted from my update 4 CD and had some fun playing with
the latest PPC PgS beta. . . 5... .12.

This morning I installed a bog standard update 4 system onto a spare
partition and hard booted into it. Pagestream would not open. Same
behavior as on my main System: partition: vertical tool bar, "little
window" and a more or less disabled Ami.

Anything you want me to try here, Deron? This is with 5...12 installed
into its own partition, with PgS assigns to 4.x 68k PgS commented
out or left in place. Neither works. I've tried it with the default
800x600 screenmode from the fresh install and with a Radeon 9100
1024z768 32 bit Screenmode on the fresh OS install. No difference.

Paul Zager


2006-03-08 17:37:57 CT #24
Don C Ferguson
From: Canada
Registered: 2006-03-01
Posts: 729

Greetings "royleith" <r.m.leith@btinternet.com>
On 03/06/2006 at 11:11 AM you wrote concerning
[PageStreamAmigaBeta] PGS5.0.2.12PRO


Hi Roy,

r> I see that several folks have got this version to run. I deleted
r> the .10 folder and installed the .12 version into a clean OS4.0
r> UD4 partition. I still get the problems I reported in

Yes, I have setup version 5.0.2.12 and it runs, although I've done
very little experimenting so far. We're using essentially the same
machine (my Radeon is version 9000) but I'm still at Update #3 for
OS4.0.

r>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PageStreamAmigaBeta/message/1116

r> I am wondering if the registration stage is leaving a problem. I
r> am able to enter the reg. details, but Workbench freezes with an
r> ISI problem. A reboot into the clean Workbench seems to have the
r> program loading, but with the same problems as before.

r> Could anyone who has got it working on an A1G4 let me know if
r> they had the registration problem? Also, were there any tricks
r> involved in getting it to work?

I cannot be of much help as the registration here went without any
problems.

r> A1G4, Radeon 7000, 512MB RAM, OS4.0 UD4. default user-startup and
r> startup-sequence. No additional assigns. No font additions.

No assigns here, but I've set things up so that the fonts from
version 4.1.5.6 are available.


Cheers Don (Green Dragon)


2006-03-11 09:12:56 CT #25
Roy Leith
From: United Kingdom
Registered: 2006-02-23
Posts: 171

--- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, Don Ferguson <fergdc@...>
wrote:

>
> No assigns here, but I've set things up so that the fonts from
> version 4.1.5.6 are available.
>

Did you add the fonts *after* PGS ran, by using System Prefs/Fonts or
did yu copy fonts into the PGS5 fonts drawer? After the Charsets
weirdness, I'll look at anything!

Regards
Roy Leith


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