XE-G4 @933MHz OS4.0 Update4 512MB RAM
Installed in new Partition with its own OS4.0 System.

Latest Beta installed in directory with only userprefs and Fonts left from previous versions.

Fonts updated.

Before, I found that Softlogik/Printers, Special, Filters, Engines, and Effects would all cause repeated GR attempts. Now, only Special, Filters and Engines cause problems, vis,

No opening Navigator. No functioning panels. Program Freeze.

With these renamed the Navigator appears and a new document can be opened. Shape tools and textbox drawing works, but it is not possible to type any text. The page gadget and the fonts gadget are missing. The document appears locked on the Master Page. Some panels can only be stretched vertically and not horizontally. Screensetting via MUI does not reset the screen in the way the 68k version does, but after some Workbench and program rebooting the program appears on its own screen. Could not move the toolbar, even with the keyboard mouse movements. Could not 'Remember Window Positions'.

Only Deron will know which of these effects are caused by the renaming of the three remaining Softlogik drawers.

Is there anything else I can do to provide more diagnostic info?

Regards
Roy Leith

>XE-G4 @933MHz OS4.0 Update4 512MB RAM
>Installed in new Partition with its own OS4.0 System.
>
>Latest Beta installed in directory with only userprefs and Fonts left from
>previous versions.
>Fonts updated.
>
>Before, I found that Softlogik/Printers, Special, Filters, Engines, and
>Effects would all cause repeated GR attempts. Now, only Special, Filters
>and Engines cause problems, vis,

I must have missed this the first time around. I was only aware of a
problem with the SoftLogik/#? modules in the previous 68k release (and it
was related to an accidently inclusion of an OS4 feature that was being
used which caused it to work ok on my computer, but not any other...) The
modules should be fine under OS4. Does anyone else have this problem under
OS4??

>With these renamed the Navigator appears and a new document can be opened.
>Shape tools and textbox drawing works, but it is not possible to type any text.

What happens? Does any fonts appear in the font list? Does a text sample
display if you choose Type->Font->Choose submenu option?

>The page gadget and the fonts gadget are missing.

Which do you mean? The 3 page gadgets at the bottom of the document window?
For fonts gadget, do you mean in the edit palette? Or are they both totally
empty?

>The document appears locked on the Master Page.

No idea on this and the above. They all work fine here, and this is the
first I've heard.

>Some panels can only be stretched vertically and not horizontally.

Known problem.

>Screensetting via MUI does not reset the screen in the way the 68k version
>does, but after some Workbench and program rebooting the program appears
>on its own screen.

I think that is normal. It does not move you to a new screen, just sets up
for next run.

>Could not move the toolbar, even with the keyboard mouse movements. Could
>not 'Remember Window Positions'.

Known problems.

>Only Deron will know which of these effects are caused by the renaming of
>the three remaining Softlogik drawers.

None that I know of.

>Is there anything else I can do to provide more diagnostic info?

Well, capturing debug output when you try and run PageStream with all of
the filters installed could be a help. The rest are so strange I'm not sure
what to think.

Deron

>Regards
>Roy Leith

Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

G'day PageStream Support,

On 22/05/2006, on the subject of "[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Re PGS 5.0.3.2 PPC
(OS4.0)", you spoke thus:

>>Before, I found that Softlogik/Printers, Special, Filters, Engines,
>>and Effects would all cause repeated GR attempts. Now, only Special,
>>Filters and Engines cause problems, vis,
>
> I must have missed this the first time around. I was only aware of a
> problem with the SoftLogik/#? modules in the previous 68k release
> (and it was related to an accidently inclusion of an OS4 feature
> that was being used which caused it to work ok on my computer, but
> not any other...) The modules should be fine under OS4. Does anyone
> else have this problem under OS4??

The same here, if I rename those three directories PgS 4.1.8.2 starts
fine.

--
Steve Bowman - Sydney, Australia

They drove back through the dawn, while the cassette player played J. S.
Bach's Mass in B Minor, vocals by F. Mercury.

-- (Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens)

--- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, PageStream Support
<support@...> wrote:
>
>
> >XE-G4 @933MHz OS4.0 Update4 512MB RAM
> >Installed in new Partition with its own OS4.0 System.
> >
> >Latest Beta installed in directory with only userprefs and Fonts
left from
> >previous versions.
> >Fonts updated.
> >
> >Before, I found that Softlogik/Printers, Special, Filters, Engines,
and
> >Effects would all cause repeated GR attempts. Now, only Special,
Filters
> >and Engines cause problems, vis,
>

>
> >With these renamed the Navigator appears and a new document can be
opened.
> >Shape tools and textbox drawing works, but it is not possible to
type any text.
>
> What happens? Does any fonts appear in the font list? Does a text
sample
> display if you choose Type->Font->Choose submenu option?
>

Well, I tried it again and the font gadget appeared in the Edit
palette and the page gadgets appeared at the base of the edit window,
albeit, small. Only one font appears, Triumverate-Normal, although I
have refreshed the Fonts and have the _bullet and _bullet outlines in
the Fonts: directory. The Pagestream fonts directory contains the
fonts from the website and a truetype font set from another place.

Selecting Triumverate-Normal, typed text does not appear and the
typing cursor does not move.

> >The page gadget and the fonts gadget are missing.
>
> Which do you mean? The 3 page gadgets at the bottom of the document
window?
> For fonts gadget, do you mean in the edit palette? Or are they both
totally
> empty?
>

I swear they were not there when I first tried it!

> >The document appears locked on the Master Page.
>
> No idea on this and the above. They all work fine here, and this is
the
> first I've heard.
>

Forget this, as well. It now opens with page 1 in place. The insert
pages menu item requester appears, but does not insert pages. The page
selection gadget generates the requester, but I cannot check it
without additional pages.

I experimented with the MUI text edit class, but got into a whole heap
of problems. This exposed another oddity. With Pagestream running in
its own screen, switching back to Workbench showed that it is
impossible to select open windows and keep them the context window.
The top border turns blue for a second and then clears to grey and
Workbench becomes the context. I am running Context Menus and all
menus are inoperable while Pagestream is running. I cannot tell you
what happens when PGS is closed because the Save/Don't Save gadget
does not work.

I took Context Menus out of startup and rebooted again. Running PGS
and opening a new document (opening an existing document does nothing,
no selection requester) does not affect WB menus. Drawing a square or
other object is OK. The moment a text frame is drawn the Workbench
menus are disabled and it is not possible to set a window to context.

>
> >Is there anything else I can do to provide more diagnostic info?
>
> Well, capturing debug output when you try and run PageStream with
all of
> the filters installed could be a help. The rest are so strange I'm
not sure
> what to think.
>

I did that with both Snoopdos and a monitor on the serial port.
Navigator now appeared! What's more, it was possible to open documents
and I opened the welcome document which seemed fine. The colour
palette claims to list a varied range, but all that appears are some
blank and some yellow sample squares. I suspect the main document may
be colour challenged as the only colours are green and blue. Closing
the document produced GM 80000003, Task 0x2a8d398 ("Pagestream5"),
DSI, address 0x141cb30. I will mail the crashlog to you. I installed
texteditor.mcc in the main MUI libs and this is now found and the
class built.

Opening a new document and drawing a text box produced the same odd
Workbench behaviour mentioned above. I will also mail you the Snoopdos
log. Count 276 is the point just before drawing a text frame. Nothing
appears in SnoopDos after the text frame is drawn, but context on
Workbench is lost and so are the menus. Menus on the Pagestream screen
continue to be fine. Attempting to close the new document brings up
the ineffective save document requestor, but I believe that, had this
worked, it would be possible to quit Pagestream cleanly.

Must go now. My fingers hurt from rebooting and my head hurts, as
well.

Regards
Roy Leith

>Well, I tried it again and the font gadget appeared in the Edit
>palette and the page gadgets appeared at the base of the edit window,
>albeit, small. Only one font appears, Triumverate-Normal, although I
>have refreshed the Fonts and have the _bullet and _bullet outlines in
>the Fonts: directory. The Pagestream fonts directory contains the
>fonts from the website and a truetype font set from another place.
>
>Selecting Triumverate-Normal, typed text does not appear and the
>typing cursor does not move.

That indicates to me that your font paths are not set properly, or not
being read properly. Make sure they are set (File->System Prefs->Fonts).
What you are seeing is the default font. Anytime you have a font selected
that is not available locally (say loading a document from another machine
and choosing a display font, not a replacement font), it will display that
name at the top of the list when it needs to tell you what you really have
selected.

In this case there is no font to display in its place

Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

--- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, PageStream Support
<support@...> wrote:

>
> That indicates to me that your font paths are not set properly, or
not
> being read properly. Make sure they are set (File->System Prefs-
>Fonts).
> What you are seeing is the default font. Anytime you have a font
selected
> that is not available locally (say loading a document from another
machine
> and choosing a display font, not a replacement font), it will
display that
> name at the top of the list when it needs to tell you what you
really have
> selected.
>
> In this case there is no font to display in its place
>

Ha! I checked the contents of the Fonts folder and it was empty. I had
updated nothing! I downloaded the fonts, again, and installed them. I
had no end of trouble until I correctly set the default folder. Now
the type appears and the fonts display correctly. Except! Now I have
more diagnostics for the strange loss of context on Workbench whenever
a textframe was drawn in the Pagestream screen.

Whenever the Styles palette is shown and the main edit window is
selected as context, the style palette contents flicker as though
constantly being redrawn. Any text highlighted in the editing window
also flickers. It is not possible to select the style palette and
change the style because the context is continually stolen back by the
main edit window. In fact, it is not possible to select any palette
while the Style palette is shown. It is this same effect that makes it
impossible to select any windows on the Workbench screen. Context is
stolen back by the PGS edit window. The problem goes away once the
Style palette is hidden.

I reported the Colour palette as displaying erronious colour sample
squares. I tried changing the colour of text and shape lines and fills
and they were fine (including my gaudy gradient fills.

At this point I tried to manually change the prefs positions and sizes
of the edit window and palettes. I killed PGS. I installed again from
scratch including registration and found that I had to rename
Softlogik or I just got the two mini windows. Starting with Softlogik
renamed allowed me to set prefs and edit a document. I could quit with
the 'Don't Save' option. I could do this several times. I restored the
name of the Softlogik folder and restarted PGS. Again, I could change
prefs and edit a new document. Restarting the computer, booting into
the reserved partition and starting PGS resulted in the palettes and
toolbars appearing, but no navigator. Rebooting from cold, again often
gave just the two miniwindows, but equally, could give the No-
Navigator syndrome.

So, my test procedure is to boot into the correct partition, rename
Softlogik, run PGS, edit a document, quit without saving, restore the
Softlogik name, restart PGS, edit a document, quit without saving. I
cannot open a document anymore. I tried saving one of the new docs.
but it does not produce an openable document. The Style palette
problem is still there. I cannot think what I did before to open and
save documents correctly.

The only observation I can make is that there is something odd about
MUI use. Sometimes the program comes up on Workbench and on another
run comes up on its own screen. Also, some of the other MUI settings
seem to be picked up erratically. For instance, I tried to set the
requester background to a darker grey so that I could see filenames
more clearly. The only window affected was Navigator. Sometimes it
comes up with the darker background, but often it comes up the default
light grey.

As usual, if there is anything further I cam do to help, let me know.

Got to go now. I need to repaint the icons on my reboot keys.

Regards
Roy Leith

<r.m.leith@btinternet.com> wrote at Wed, 24 May 2006 12:00:36 -0000
about <[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Re: Re PGS 5.0.3.2 PPC (OS4.0)>:

> Whenever the Styles palette is shown and the main edit window is
> selected as context, the style palette contents flicker as though
> constantly being redrawn. Any text highlighted in the editing window
> also flickers.

i reported that several month ago here on this list. since then i have
a hidden style palette... it is not possible to work with an open one
imho.

byebye...

--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael

>As usual, if there is anything further I cam do to help, let me know.

Thanks for the report. Other than trying to figure out why you (and some
others) can't load modules, I've got enough info for a new release. Oh, and
the strange layout issues on MorphOS...

>Got to go now. I need to repaint the icons on my reboot keys.

<vbg> Thanks for the laugh!!

>Regards
>Roy Leith

Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows