Hello,
> Hello ANDERS

>On 06/03/2007, you wrote:

>> I have just exported a big text-file from a database program and loaded
>> it into Pagestream 4.1.5.6 which is the version I am using. The file
>> should be changed into printable form. (contains a stamps auction
>> catalogue totally about 72 pages, pictures and new text will be added
>> in Pagestream). The file contains lots of ?-characters which all looks
>> like small suns. Is there any other solution than Find/Change? (suns ->
>> EURO)
>>
>> My computer A1 with OS4 final, I do also have Pagestream 5 but I
>> haven't used that yet. The system fonts do have the EURO-character, but
>> the fonts PGS uses don't, right?

>Just add the system fonts, eg. DejaVu and bitstream they are TrueType so
will
>work fine with Pagestream

I have added the -truetype directory from system:fonts containing the above
menthioned fonts. The problem still remains.
Strange, if I open Notepad which happens to use the font Dejavu sans, the
euro-characters are ok, but in Pagestream I still get the same
sun-characters. Notepad says it is using character map ISO-8859-15, is the
same character map used in Pagestream, or can it be forced to do so?

Kind regards
Anders Willför

Greetings "ANDERS WILLFÖR" <anders.willfor@syi.fi>
On 06/03/2007 at 17:33 you wrote concerning
Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Font with EURO-character
available?

Hi Anders,

<<snip>>
AW> I have added the -truetype directory from system:fonts
AW> containing the above menthioned fonts. The problem still
AW> remains. Strange, if I open Notepad which happens to use
AW> the font Dejavu sans, the euro-characters are ok, but in
AW> Pagestream I still get the same sun-characters. Notepad
AW> says it is using character map ISO-8859-15, is the same
AW> character map used in Pagestream, or can it be forced to
AW> do so?

In PageStream open

File -> Preferences... -> Type

and go to the 'CharSet' field. There you can choose the
option

ISO 8859-15

which is the setting I have here because ISO 8859-15 is
supposed to include the Euro sign. However, looking in the
Times and Triumvirate fonts I cannot find the Euro sign
either.

I think we need to know the Ctrl-D code for the Euro sign,
but I don't know what it is.

Cheers Don (Green Dragon)
--

On 6.03.07, Don Ferguson wrote:
> In PageStream open
>
> File -> Preferences... -> Type
>
> and go to the 'CharSet' field. There you can choose the
> option
>
> ISO 8859-15

new version of Pagestream? Unfortunately it works only with new version
properly (and new version still unusable, because it still unstability)

> I think we need to know the Ctrl-D code for the Euro sign,
> but I don't know what it is.

type -> insert->character

find euro-character and insert it - You can see also ctrl+d code

Regards
--
Tomasz Kaczanowski

Greetings "kaczus@wp.pl" <kaczus@wp.pl>
On 06/03/2007 at 19:19 you wrote concerning
Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Font with EURO-character
available?

Hello Kaczus,

k> On 6.03.07, Don Ferguson wrote:
k>> In PageStream open
k>>
k>> File -> Preferences... -> Type
k>>
k>> and go to the 'CharSet' field. There you can choose the
k>> option
k>>
k>> ISO 8859-15

k> new version of Pagestream? Unfortunately it works only
k> with new version properly (and new version still
k> unusable, because it still unstability)

You are referring to the 5.0.x.y versions of PageStream?

k>> I think we need to know the Ctrl-D code for the Euro
k>> sign, but I don't know what it is.

k> type -> insert->character

k> find euro-character and insert it - You can see also
k> ctrl+d code

But here the 'insert-character' popup does not display the
Euro sign.

Cheers Don (Green Dragon)
--

On Tuesday 06 March 2007 13:47, Don Ferguson wrote:
[snip]
> But here the 'insert-character' popup does not display the
> Euro sign.

If the font has the Euro character it should be in the dialog. If the font
follows Unicode it will be ctrl-d 08364

Tim Doty

Greetings "Tim Doty" <drakki@rollanet.org>
On 06/03/2007 at 23:01 you wrote concerning
Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Font with EURO-character
available?

Hi Tim,

TD> On Tuesday 06 March 2007 13:47, Don Ferguson wrote:
TD> [snip]
TD>> But here the 'insert-character' popup does not display
TD>> the Euro sign.

TD> If the font has the Euro character it should be in the
TD> dialog. If the font follows Unicode it will be ctrl-d
TD> 08364

From your comments and a little experimentation, I guess
those fonts that are familiar in PageStream (Times-Normal,
Triumvirate-Normal, ...) just do not have the Euro
character ¤. I found the Euro character in the fonts

Bitstream Vera Sans-Roman
Bitstream Vera Serif-Roman
DejaVu Sans-Book
DejaVu Serif-Book

Here in YAM, I am using "Bitstream Vera Sans Mono" and it
also supports the Euro character ¤. However in YAM this
font looks fine but in PageStream it looks terrible. I'm
wondering if the printed characters will look that bad and
I use PageStream at the highest resolution possible here
1280x1024.

Is there some sort of 'smoothing' parameter that one has to
set in PageStream in order to use the Bitstream fonts?
I.E., so that they look 'nice'!

The big shock was the plethora of 'extra' characters
available in the Bitstream and DejaVu fonts, especially
DejaVu Sans-Book. Characters like I've never seen before:
Greek letters with acute or grave accents, Cryllic
characters, characters with marks above AND below the
character. Even found the "does not belong to" character
used in set theory and a proper symbol for infinity --
crazy man! So for technical writing, depending on one's
discipline, there may be a big advantage of using one or
both of these font families, as long as the printed
characters are not so pixel ugly.

Cheers Don (Green Dragon)
--

On Tuesday 06 March 2007 20:44, Don Ferguson wrote:
> Greetings "Tim Doty" <drakki@rollanet.org>
> On 06/03/2007 at 23:01 you wrote concerning
> Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Font with EURO-character
> available?
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
> TD> On Tuesday 06 March 2007 13:47, Don Ferguson wrote:
> TD> [snip]
> TD>> But here the 'insert-character' popup does not display
> TD>> the Euro sign.
>
> TD> If the font has the Euro character it should be in the
> TD> dialog. If the font follows Unicode it will be ctrl-d
> TD> 08364
>
> From your comments and a little experimentation, I guess
> those fonts that are familiar in PageStream (Times-Normal,
> Triumvirate-Normal, ...) just do not have the Euro
> character ¤.

That would be expected as they were all created long before the Euro symbol
came into being. The "sun" symbol is to my knowledge a generic currency
symbol and it wouldn't surprise me if in European versions of fonts the Euro
symbol started to be used in its place, hence the confusion between the two.

> I found the Euro character in the fonts
>
> Bitstream Vera Sans-Roman
> Bitstream Vera Serif-Roman
> DejaVu Sans-Book
> DejaVu Serif-Book
>
> Here in YAM, I am using "Bitstream Vera Sans Mono" and it
> also supports the Euro character ¤. However in YAM this
> font looks fine but in PageStream it looks terrible. I'm
> wondering if the printed characters will look that bad and
> I use PageStream at the highest resolution possible here
> 1280x1024.
>
> Is there some sort of 'smoothing' parameter that one has to
> set in PageStream in order to use the Bitstream fonts?
> I.E., so that they look 'nice'!

That has to do with onscreen rendering. If I remember correctly the TTF
rendering engine in the Amiga version of PgS left a lot to be desired. That
said, it provides capabilities necessary for PgS that go beyond simply
providing a nicely smoothed onscreen display. Printed the character should
look just fine.

> The big shock was the plethora of 'extra' characters
> available in the Bitstream and DejaVu fonts, especially
> DejaVu Sans-Book. Characters like I've never seen before:
> Greek letters with acute or grave accents, Cryllic
> characters, characters with marks above AND below the
> character. Even found the "does not belong to" character
> used in set theory and a proper symbol for infinity --
> crazy man! So for technical writing, depending on one's
> discipline, there may be a big advantage of using one or
> both of these font families, as long as the printed
> characters are not so pixel ugly.

If you want a really thorough coverage take a look at Junicode (free or
shareware) or Cyberbit/Cyberbase (free if you can find a source). The last
two are the same font except that Cyberbase omits a number of Asian
characters. And even those only cover a portion of the basic multilingual
plane (BMP).

Tim Doty

On 6.03.07, Don Ferguson wrote:

> Greetings "kaczus@wp.pl" <kaczus@wp.pl>
> On 06/03/2007 at 19:19 you wrote concerning
> Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Font with EURO-character
> available?
>
>
> Hello Kaczus,
>
>> On 6.03.07, Don Ferguson wrote:
>>> In PageStream open
>>>
>>> File -> Preferences... -> Type
>>>
>>> and go to the 'CharSet' field. There you can choose the
>>> option
>>>
>>> ISO 8859-15
>
>> new version of Pagestream? Unfortunately it works only
>> with new version properly (and new version still
>> unusable, because it still unstability)
>
> You are referring to the 5.0.x.y versions of PageStream?

Yes, Morphos version is still unusable.

Regards
--
Tomasz Kaczanowski