Ever since upgrading OS4 with the newest update, I have been unable to do anything with my PageStream5Pro installation (it likes to freeze my system completely). Now even though I can manage to get into the program by renaming the "SoftLogik" drawer, I have to change the name back before I can do anything like loading a document or even importing a graphic into a new document; and then when I try to load an old document or a import a graphic, the GR appears, but when I try to get information about the crash, everything freezes, and I need to do a hard reset to get back up and running.

Since I haven't seen anyone else mentioning anything like this, I might be the only one to have this problem. Do you guys know a trick that you haven't told me yet?

Thanks for any help that you can provide.

___ Paul ___

> Ever since upgrading OS4 with the newest update, I have been unable to do anything
> with my

Try to blacklist PS and it's sub-libraries.

--
Philippe 'Elwood' Ferrucci
Project Manager
Amiga Translator Organisation
http://elwoodb.free.fr

Hello revbloedel

I have just wanted to ask about the same problem.
My system is react to PGS 5.0.3.3 just as you described.

I think the only trick would be an updated version from
Deron.

On 2007.07.24., revbloedel wrote:
> Since I haven't seen anyone else mentioning anything
> like this, I might be the only one to have this
> problem. Do you guys know a trick that you haven't told
> me yet?
>
> Thanks for any help that you can provide.
>
> ___ Paul ___
>
Regards
--
Lázi
lazi@freemail.hu
www.kezdobetu.hu/amiga
-=( AmigaOne (A1-c) A1200/060 A2000/030)=-
-=\*** Color Laserjet - Plotter - Scanner ***/=-

On 24.07.07, revbloedel wrote:

> Ever since upgrading OS4 with the newest update, I have been unable
> to do anything with my PageStream5Pro installation (it likes to
> freeze my system completely). Now even though I can manage to get
> into the program by renaming the "SoftLogik" drawer, I have to change
> the name back before I can do anything like loading a document or
> even importing a graphic into a new document; and then when I try to
> load an old document or a import a graphic, the GR appears, but when
> I try to get information about the crash, everything freezes, and I
> need to do a hard reset to get back up and running.
>
> Since I haven't seen anyone else mentioning anything like this, I
> might be the only one to have this problem. Do you guys know a trick
> that you haven't told me yet?

You are happy user, i think. For Morphos, I have not got any usable
version Pagestream 5 It is too unstable to use it for anything more
then making bug report (generate log from logtool). Nothing else

Regards
--
Tomasz Kaczanowski

Hello Philippe

If you mentioned the prefs/compatibility blacklist then it
hardly the solution because PS5 is PPC native code with all
sub-libraries.

The 68k PGS4 is working just like before the update.

How does it work for you?

On 2007.07.24., Philippe Ferrucci wrote:
>
>
>> Ever since upgrading OS4 with the newest update, I
>> have been unable to do anything with my
>
> Try to blacklist PS and it's sub-libraries.
>
Regards
--
Lázi
lazi@freemail.hu
www.kezdobetu.hu/amiga
-=( AmigaOne (A1-c) A1200/060 A2000/030)=-
-=\*** Color Laserjet - Plotter - Scanner ***/=-

> You are happy user, i think. For Morphos, I have not got any usable
> version Pagestream 5 It is too unstable to use it for anything more
> then making bug report (generate log from logtool). Nothing else

Here too. It is not usable on OS4.

Ok for the blacklist, I forgot it was native :-/
--
Philippe 'Elwood' Ferrucci
Project Manager
Amiga Translator Organisation
http://elwoodb.free.fr

Hello kaczus@wp.pl

On 2007.07.24., kaczus@wp.pl wrote:
> On 24.07.07, revbloedel wrote:
>
>> Ever since upgrading OS4 with the newest update, I
>> have been unable to do anything with my PageStream5Pro

> You are happy user, i think. For Morphos, I have not
> got any usable version Pagestream 5 It is too
> unstable to use it for anything more then making bug
> report (generate log from logtool). Nothing else

So at last we are all sailing with the same boat.
Sadly it makes no happy that I know that I could be happy
until this time.

Could you tell me about PGS4 68k stability on MOS? Sometimes
it has problem on OS4 with clipboard and some of the ttf
fonts.

Regards
--
Lázi
lazi@freemail.hu
www.kezdobetu.hu/amiga
-=( AmigaOne (A1-c) A1200/060 A2000/030)=-
-=\*** Color Laserjet - Plotter - Scanner ***/=-

Hello revbloedel,

On 07/24/2007, you wrote:
> Ever since upgrading OS4 with the newest update, I have been unable
> to do anything with my PageStream5Pro installation (it likes to
> freeze my system completely). Now even though I can manage to get
> into the program by renaming the "SoftLogik" drawer, I have to change
> the name back before I can do anything like loading a document or
> even importing a graphic into a new document; and then when I try to
> load an old document or a import a graphic, the GR appears, but when
> I try to get information about the crash, everything freezes, and I
> need to do a hard reset to get back up and running.
> Since I haven't seen anyone else mentioning anything like this, I
> might be the only one to have this problem. Do you guys know a trick
> that you haven't told me yet?

PageStream4 runs great with the latest update to AmigaOS 4. I have
purchased version 5 but find it not sufficiently developed to use. I
realize this doesn't help you with your issue but I need PageStream for
my work and thus use version 4. I would hope that the development of
version 5 continues.

I find Deron amazing, BTW. That he can do any development under the
conditions in which he has existed, is simply awesome. I hope his life
has settled more.

> Thanks for any help that you can provide.

> ___ Paul ___
>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@nacs.net

On 24.07.07, Lazar Zoltan wrote:

> Hello kaczus@wp.pl
>
> On 2007.07.24., kaczus@wp.pl wrote:
>> On 24.07.07, revbloedel wrote:
>>
>>> Ever since upgrading OS4 with the newest update, I
>>> have been unable to do anything with my PageStream5Pro
>
>> You are happy user, i think. For Morphos, I have not
>> got any usable version Pagestream 5 It is too
>> unstable to use it for anything more then making bug
>> report (generate log from logtool). Nothing else
>
> So at last we are all sailing with the same boat.
> Sadly it makes no happy that I know that I could be happy
> until this time.
>
> Could you tell me about PGS4 68k stability on MOS? Sometimes
> it has problem on OS4 with clipboard and some of the ttf
> fonts.

PGS4 for 68k is quite stability, only sometimes on start it hangs.(1:10)

Regards
--
Tomasz Kaczanowski

Hello,

> I find Deron amazing, BTW. That he can do any development under the
> conditions in which he has existed, is simply awesome.

Our remarks don't change this, of course.

Bye
--
Philippe 'Elwood' FERRUCCI
Project Manager
Amiga Translator Organisation
http://elwoodb.free.fr

revbloedel wrote on 24.07.2007
about <[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Problems with PageStream5Pro and the OS4 July
Update> the following:

> Ever since upgrading OS4 with the newest update, I have been unable to
> do anything with my PageStream5Pro installation (it likes to freeze my
> system completely). Now even though I can manage to get into the
> program by renaming the "SoftLogik" drawer, I have to change the name
> back before I can do anything like loading a document or even importing
> a graphic into a new document; and then when I try to load an old
> document or a import a graphic, the GR appears, but when I try to get
> information about the crash, everything freezes, and I need to do a
> hard reset to get back up and running.
>
> Since I haven't seen anyone else mentioning anything like this, I might
> be the only one to have this problem. Do you guys know a trick that you
> haven't told me yet?

i don't have these problems with pgs5pro(os4) at all. i start it and it
runs...

sorry - no real idea.
but one possible problem could be a broken mui installation? try to
re-install mui from the os4 disks without any additional mui classes. this
may be a start.

byebye...
--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael
Member ofhttp://www.amiga-freunde.de

Philippe Ferrucci wrote on 24.07.2007
about <Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Problems with PageStream5Pro and the OS4
July Update> the following:

>
>
>> Ever since upgrading OS4 with the newest update, I have been unable to
>> do anything with my
>
> Try to blacklist PS and it's sub-libraries.

i believe he has the native version (pgs5pro). but i may be wrong...

byebye...
--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael
Member ofhttp://www.amiga-freunde.de

Hello Philippe,

On 07/24/2007, you wrote:
> Hello,

>> I find Deron amazing, BTW. That he can do any development under
>> the conditions in which he has existed, is simply awesome.

> Our remarks don't change this, of course.

No, but they do emphasize that his work is certainly not in vain and
that people do care about him as well as his works. At a minimum,
words never hurt.

> Bye

Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@nacs.net

You are certainly right there doctor. Deron's work is
much appreciated.

Just to clarify things a bit, I am talking about the
native PPC version of PageStream5Pro for OS4. (My old
68k PageStream4 installation still works fine.)

--- "Dr. Larry Keller" <nacs-keller@noscan.nacs.net>
wrote:

> Hello Philippe,
>
> On 07/24/2007, you wrote:
> > Hello,
>
> >> I find Deron amazing, BTW. That he can do any
> development under
> >> the conditions in which he has existed, is simply
> awesome.
>
> > Our remarks don't change this, of course.
>
> No, but they do emphasize that his work is
> certainly not in vain and
> that people do care about him as well as his works.
> At a minimum,
> words never hurt.
>
> > Bye
>
> Talk to you later.
> --
> Dr. Larry Keller
> Levin College of Urban Affairs
> Cleveland State University
> lkeller@nacs.net
>
>

____________________________________________________________________________________
Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
http://sims.yahoo.com/

Paul,

Like Michael, PgS5 PPC is mmore or less working on my A1, and has been
with the last two updates now. I can't print from PgS 5, so I have to
save what I create there and open it in PgS 4 to print it. The screen
refresh is, errr, "interesting." But otherwise, it runs now for me.

I wish I could write a tutorial for it. But it went from never opening
before "final update" to just "working" when I installed OS4 final
update.

Paul

> You are certainly right there doctor. Deron's work is
> much appreciated.

> Just to clarify things a bit, I am talking about the
> native PPC version of PageStream5Pro for OS4. (My old
> 68k PageStream4 installation still works fine.)

> --- "Dr. Larry Keller" <nacs-keller@noscan.nacs.net>
> wrote:

>> Hello Philippe,
>>
>> On 07/24/2007, you wrote:
>> > Hello,
>>
>> >> I find Deron amazing, BTW. That he can do any
>> development under
>> >> the conditions in which he has existed, is simply
>> awesome.
>>
>> > Our remarks don't change this, of course.
>>
>> No, but they do emphasize that his work is
>> certainly not in vain and
>> that people do care about him as well as his works.
>> At a minimum,
>> words never hurt.
>>
>> > Bye
>>
>> Talk to you later.
>> --
>> Dr. Larry Keller
>> Levin College of Urban Affairs
>> Cleveland State University
>> lkeller@nacs.net
>>
>>

>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
> story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.http://sims.yahoo.com/

>
> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

--
--
--
Paul Zager

Proud Owner of Frankenthousand, the monster A1000
'030@50MHz, 2 megs chip/32 megs fast, 2 hard drives, OS 3.9
4xSCSI CD-ROM, SyJet, 56kHayes, 19" flicker free display

"Bride of Frankenthousand" A4000 Gave her life for her young

The Young Frankenthousand AmigaOne G4-XE, ATI Radeon 9800,
Catweasel, 512 MB . . . now running OS4

--- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, Michael Merkel <Michael.Merkel@...> wrote:

> i don't have these problems with pgs5pro(os4) at all.

I don't have any either. I had problems with version 4 pro : greams with some "time and date"... but they seem to be gone...

Only problem with PPC (besides the refresh thing) is that when I trace a bitmap with the fx button, then I am not able to import it again...

I'll keep you updated

Luca

Hello kaczus@wp.pl

On 24/07/07, kaczus@wp.pl wrote:
> On 24.07.07, revbloedel wrote:
>
>> Ever since upgrading OS4 with the newest update, I have been unable
>> to do anything with my PageStream5Pro installation (it likes to
>> freeze my system completely). Now even though I can manage to get
>> into the program by renaming the "SoftLogik" drawer, I have to change
>> the name back before I can do anything like loading a document or
>> even importing a graphic into a new document; and then when I try to
>> load an old document or a import a graphic, the GR appears, but when
>> I try to get information about the crash, everything freezes, and I
>> need to do a hard reset to get back up and running.
>>
>> Since I haven't seen anyone else mentioning anything like this, I
>> might be the only one to have this problem. Do you guys know a trick
>> that you haven't told me yet?
>
> You are happy user, i think. For Morphos, I have not got any usable
> version Pagestream 5 It is too unstable to use it for anything more
> then making bug report (generate log from logtool). Nothing else

Same on Amithlon. It starts loading but doesn't get far enough to do any
kind of work.

Fortunately PGS 4 does most of what I need.

Regards
--
Don Cox
doncox@enterprise.net

Hi!

My Amigas are still in boxes, so I have _not_ been able to download and
install the last update. I can't think of anything that I remember
reading that would effect PageStream, but I would check from a CLI to
see if any errors are reported. maybe check TextEditor mui class?

I am hopeful that the Amigas will come out soon. I thought that we would
be done with drywall by now, but things happen (and often around here!)
I am just glad to have Internet and my laptops!!

Thanks for the kind words Dr. Keller!

Deron
> Hello Philippe,
>
> On 07/24/2007, you wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>
>
>>> I find Deron amazing, BTW. That he can do any development under
>>> the conditions in which he has existed, is simply awesome.
>>>
>
>
>> Our remarks don't change this, of course.
>>
>
> No, but they do emphasize that his work is certainly not in vain and
> that people do care about him as well as his works. At a minimum,
> words never hurt.
>
>
>> Bye
>>
>
> Talk to you later.
>

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Hello Deron,

On 07/25/2007, you wrote:
> Hi!

> My Amigas are still in boxes, so I have _not_ been able to download
> and install the last update. I can't think of anything that I
> remember reading that would effect PageStream, but I would check from
> a CLI to see if any errors are reported. maybe check TextEditor mui
> class?
> I am hopeful that the Amigas will come out soon. I thought that we
> would be done with drywall by now, but things happen (and often
> around here!) I am just glad to have Internet and my laptops!!

Get those AmigaOnes going! We miss your work.

We are also drywalling and have been for a couple of years. Hope
yours going faster than ours has though we re now able to focus more on
it. Seems never ending.

> Thanks for the kind words Dr. Keller!

They are deserved and your work is greatly appreciated. Best of Luck
with all.

> Deron
>> Hello Philippe,
>>
>> On 07/24/2007, you wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>
>>
>>>> I find Deron amazing, BTW. That he can do any development under
>>>> the conditions in which he has existed, is simply awesome.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>> Our remarks don't change this, of course.
>>>
>>
>> No, but they do emphasize that his work is certainly not in vain
>> and that people do care about him as well as his works. At a
>> minimum, words never hurt.
>>
>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>
>> Talk to you later.
>>

Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@nacs.net

PageStream Support wrote on 25.07.2007
about <Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Re: Problems with PageStream5Pro and the
OS4 July Update> the following:

> Hi!
>
> My Amigas are still in boxes, so I have _not_ been able to download and
> install the last update. I can't think of anything that I remember
> reading that would effect PageStream, but I would check from a CLI to
> see if any errors are reported. maybe check TextEditor mui class?

btw...

the july udate has python support build it. so it should now be easy to add
python support (as host) to pagestream.

byebye...
--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael
Member ofhttp://www.amiga-freunde.de

Michael Merkel wrote:
> PageStream Support wrote on 25.07.2007
> about <Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Re: Problems with PageStream5Pro and the
> OS4 July Update> the following:
>
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> My Amigas are still in boxes, so I have _not_ been able to download and
>> install the last update. I can't think of anything that I remember
>> reading that would effect PageStream, but I would check from a CLI to
>> see if any errors are reported. maybe check TextEditor mui class?
>>
>
> btw...
>
> the july udate has python support build it. so it should now be easy to add
> python support (as host) to pagestream.
>
> byebye...
>
Thanks,
I missed that in the os4beta messages. 99% of it is irrelevant to me so
I tend to gloss over it when I am behind in email. And when am I ever
_not_ behind

Deron

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Hello Michael

On 26/07/07, Michael Merkel wrote:
> PageStream Support wrote on 25.07.2007 about <Re:
> [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Re: Problems with PageStream5Pro and the OS4
>> the following:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> My Amigas are still in boxes, so I have _not_ been able to download
>> and
>> install the last update. I can't think of anything that I remember
>> reading that would effect PageStream, but I would check from a CLI
>> to
>> see if any errors are reported. maybe check TextEditor mui class?
>
> btw...
>
> the july udate has python support build it. so it should now be easy
> to add python support (as host) to pagestream.

Isn't the plan for AOS4 to provide a scripting system that can use
ARexx, Python, Ruby or whatever, without the coders of individual
programs having to change their "ARexx" ports?

I know it is already possible to use Python scripts to address ARexx
ports on AOS 3 software.

Regards
--
Don Cox
doncox@enterprise.net

--- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, Michael Merkel <Michael.Merkel@...> wrote:
>

>
> the july udate has python support build it. so it should now be easy to add
> python support (as host) to pagestream.
>
> byebye...
> --
I notice in pagestream5pro for os4 that there are are a number of python scripts in the script and wip drawers. THey don't seem to work though - even with python running. So is there a way to get them working?

JMG

JMG wrote on 29.07.2007
about <[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Re: Problems with PageStream5Pro and the OS4
July Update> the following:

> --- In PageStreamAmigaBeta@yahoogroups.com, Michael Merkel
> <Michael.Merkel@...> wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> the july udate has python support build it. so it should now be easy
>> to add python support (as host) to pagestream.
>>
>> byebye...
>> --
> I notice in pagestream5pro for os4 that there are are a number of
> python scripts in the script and wip drawers. THey don't seem to work
> though - even with python running. So is there a way to get them
> working?

the amiga version does not support python currently.

byebye...
--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael
Member ofhttp://www.amiga-freunde.de

> the amiga version does not support python currently.
>
> byebye...
> --
> Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
> Michael.Merkel@...
>http://www.mirime.de/Michael
> Member ofhttp://www.amiga-freunde.de
>
Ah! So they're there for future use. Will the next update of 5pro for os4 have python support since OS4 now has python support?

JMG