Hi,
Can someone remind me how to change my A1 screen mode at boot time? I've
gone and screwed up the screen mode and can't remember how to change it...

Thanks,

Deron

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Hi PageStream Support,

On 15/10/2008, on the subject of "[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb Amiga
question", you wrote:

> Can someone remind me how to change my A1 screen mode at boot time?
> I've gone and screwed up the screen mode and can't remember how to
> change it...

You could try booting from your OS4 CD, then copy ENV:Sys/Screenmode.prefs
to YourUsualBootPartitionrefs/Env-Archive/Sys/Screenmode.prefs.

This should get you to a basic, but at least viewable, screenmode.

--
Steve Bowman - Sydney, Australia

- "Have you any last words?"
- YES. I DON'T WANT TO GO.
- "Well. Succinct, anyway."

-- Death at the other end of the scythe, for once
(Terry Pratchett, Reaper Man)

That's no good. I've got no idea where an original CD is

Thanks for trying!

Deron

> Hi PageStream Support,
>
> On 15/10/2008, on the subject of "[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb Amiga
> question", you wrote:
>
>
>> Can someone remind me how to change my A1 screen mode at boot time?
>> I've gone and screwed up the screen mode and can't remember how to
>> change it...
>>
>
> You could try booting from your OS4 CD, then copy ENV:Sys/Screenmode.prefs
> to YourUsualBootPartitionrefs/Env-Archive/Sys/Screenmode.prefs.
>
> This should get you to a basic, but at least viewable, screenmode.
>
>

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Hi PageStream Support,

On 15/10/2008, on the subject of "Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb Amiga
question", you wrote:

> That's no good. I've got no idea where an original CD is

Oh, that's a shame, I hope you do find it again.

In that case I suggest you boot to the Early Startup Screen, then select
boot with no startup-sequence and just delete the
SYSrefs/Env-Archive/Sys/Screenmode.prefs file, then reboot. I guess
that should get you to a 640x480 fakenative mode or similar.

To get to the ESS, after the KS modules have loaded, depending on your
keyboard, hold down the Help key or Scroll Lock key. Holding the LMB+RMB
was the "classic" means, but that has never worked for me with the A1.

>> Hi PageStream Support,
>>
>> On 15/10/2008, on the subject of "[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb Amiga
>> question", you wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Can someone remind me how to change my A1 screen mode at boot time?
>>> I've gone and screwed up the screen mode and can't remember how to
>>> change it...
>>>
>>
>> You could try booting from your OS4 CD, then copy
>> ENV:Sys/Screenmode.prefs to
>> YourUsualBootPartitionrefs/Env-Archive/Sys/Screenmode.prefs.
>
>> This should get you to a basic, but at least viewable, screenmode.

--
Steve Bowman - Sydney, Australia

Let's see, now... in HOGFATHER there are a number of stabbings, someone's
killed by a man made of knives, someone's killed by the dark, and someone
just been killed by a wardrobe.

It's a book about the magic of childhood. You can tell.

-- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

Hi Deron,

On 15/10/2008, you wrote:

> That's no good. I've got no idea where an original CD is
>
So what's the actual problem? Perhaps we could help you work through it,
it's 2300 here now but I can stay up a bit if needed.
>
cheers
tony

Hello Steve

On 16/10/2008, you wrote:

> Hi PageStream Support,
>
> On 15/10/2008, on the subject of "Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb Amiga
> question", you wrote:
>
>> That's no good. I've got no idea where an original CD is
>
> Oh, that's a shame, I hope you do find it again.
>
> In that case I suggest you boot to the Early Startup Screen, then select
> boot with no startup-sequence and just delete the
> SYSrefs/Env-Archive/Sys/Screenmode.prefs file, then reboot. I guess
> that should get you to a 640x480 fakenative mode or similar.
>
> To get to the ESS, after the KS modules have loaded, depending on your
> keyboard, hold down the Help key or Scroll Lock key. Holding the LMB+RMB
> was the "classic" means, but that has never worked for me with the A1.

Wow, you really like to do things the hard way! Just hold down the right mouse
button when booting and p96 is disabled so you will boot into a fake native
(640x480x screen. there you can try to run screenmode prefs or delete
envarc:sys/screenmode.prefs

>
>
>>> Hi PageStream Support,
>>>
>>> On 15/10/2008, on the subject of "[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb Amiga
>>> question", you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can someone remind me how to change my A1 screen mode at boot time?
>>>> I've gone and screwed up the screen mode and can't remember how to
>>>> change it...
>>>>
>>>
>>> You could try booting from your OS4 CD, then copy
>>> ENV:Sys/Screenmode.prefs to
>>> YourUsualBootPartitionrefs/Env-Archive/Sys/Screenmode.prefs.
>>
>>> This should get you to a basic, but at least viewable, screenmode.
>
Regards
--
<sb>Nick Clover
<sb>Corripe Cervisiam
<sb>
<sb>I never have any idea of what anyone (including myself.. scratch that,
ESPECIALLY myself) is talking about ever. I find it is safer that way. I
always have deniability should things turn serious.
<sb>

> Can someone remind me how to change my A1 screen mode at boot time?
> I've gone and screwed up the screen mode and can't remember how to
> change it...
you can try to boot without startup-sequence (choose the proper option in
the early-startup screen). The boot should stop at the CLI/Shell, then type
"loadwb" and there you can change your prefs and/or the tooltypes of your
monitor in devs/monitors.

Hope this helps.
Ciao
Gabriele

Hi Tony, I gave up on it last night so I hope you got some sleep as well

I think Steve's solution will work for me for right now. I'll post in a
few to let you know how it went
>> That's no good. I've got no idea where an original CD is
>>
>>
> So what's the actual problem? Perhaps we could help you work through it,
> it's 2300 here now but I can stay up a bit if needed.
>
> cheers
> tony
>
>

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

No good news

All great suggestions, but something else is misbehaving. Let me tell
you the symptoms and maybe someone has some magic I can try.

This is with OS4(.0) update 4 installed on an A1. (actually, microA1
that came to me new April 05). It has been in a storage tub stored in
environmentally uncontrolled storage space more or less continuously
since Jan 07. It was fully functional when packed. It was working
recently (light work) with a monitor that is now dead. It was working,
then not used for a short time while building the Linux release, then
tried and monitor not working. Hooked to a new screen now that does
work. (Hitachi SuperScan Pro 620, just to be complete).

First, the UBoot configure screen always comes up. Keyboard stored with
it was found to be disfunctional. Using a different keyboard works
better, but the configure screen still always comes up. Have to hit esc,
then return, to jump into the 4 choice menu (JIT, JITDebug, noJIT, noJIT
Debug basically). This was true before the monitor died. Don't recall if
it was that way before the move.

Letting the timer count down or hit return leads to the progress bar
loading modules. After that, the monitor clicks off to "no signal". The
system does not crash, and I have no reason to believe it has died but
it could have. My gut reaction was that this new monitor does not
support the screen mode it is trying to cut to. The keyboard is a
"standard" PS2 keyboard, but the mouse is a USB mouse. I don't recall
ever being able to use the mouse buttons to bring up the early startup
screen, but none the less it doesn't work now.

I've tried shift, control, windows keys, scroll lock, both mouse
buttons, left mouse, right mouse, and a few choice words. Before, during
and immediately after the progress bar loading modules goes away. Mostly
immediately after the bar goes away.

I did find the OS4 Update 4 disk. I don't recall if it is just the
download or a full bootable ISO burn. The CD drive in the uA1 is dead
(sure it needs at least a serous cleaning) but I am willing to take a
near new DVD drive and install to see if it will boot from the CD if
someone thinks this will help.

I had a setup that was working! I don't want to go backwards!! This is
not fair!!!

Thanks for all your help,

Deron

> Hello Steve
>
> On 16/10/2008, you wrote:
>
>
>> Hi PageStream Support,
>>
>> On 15/10/2008, on the subject of "Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb Amiga
>> question", you wrote:
>>
>>
>>> That's no good. I've got no idea where an original CD is
>>>
>> Oh, that's a shame, I hope you do find it again.
>>
>> In that case I suggest you boot to the Early Startup Screen, then select
>> boot with no startup-sequence and just delete the
>> SYSrefs/Env-Archive/Sys/Screenmode.prefs file, then reboot. I guess
>> that should get you to a 640x480 fakenative mode or similar.
>>
>> To get to the ESS, after the KS modules have loaded, depending on your
>> keyboard, hold down the Help key or Scroll Lock key. Holding the LMB+RMB
>> was the "classic" means, but that has never worked for me with the A1.
>>
>
> Wow, you really like to do things the hard way! Just hold down the right mouse
> button when booting and p96 is disabled so you will boot into a fake native
> (640x480x screen. there you can try to run screenmode prefs or delete
> envarc:sys/screenmode.prefs
>
>
>>
>>>> Hi PageStream Support,
>>>>
>>>> On 15/10/2008, on the subject of "[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb Amiga
>>>> question", you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Can someone remind me how to change my A1 screen mode at boot time?
>>>>> I've gone and screwed up the screen mode and can't remember how to
>>>>> change it...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You could try booting from your OS4 CD, then copy
>>>> ENV:Sys/Screenmode.prefs to
>>>> YourUsualBootPartitionrefs/Env-Archive/Sys/Screenmode.prefs.
>>>>
>>>> This should get you to a basic, but at least viewable, screenmode.
>>>>
> Regards
>

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Hello Deron,

On 10/16/2008, you wrote:

> No good news

> All great suggestions, but something else is misbehaving. Let me tell

> you the symptoms and maybe someone has some magic I can try.

--- Long Message snipped ---

I experienced no display once upon a time and it was the display
settings as the cause. Also had to check and be sure I had the correct
UBoot settings for where the graphics card was. Booting off of the CD
should allow you to check, and change if necessary, any settings on
your workbench partition.

You can download the CD from Hyperion but I believe it is only an
update one not a complete OS.

I gave up on a usb mouse - I was using a usb KVM switch - as neither
my older Windows nor my AmigaOne supported the usb mouse during
booting. Ended with a catch 22 - no mouse until after booting and
could not use the mouse to boot to the optional screens. Purchased a
PS-2 KVM and been a happy camper since. The new Vista computers I
built do support usb during booting. They have a very powerful BIOS.

The other cause was the battery. Apparently, the battery plays a key
role for the AmigaOne, at least my XE. Installing a new battery
brought the machine back to life. However, when the battery was the
problem I could not get UBoot to run.

Good Luck, Deron, and hopefully the real Amiga Gurus will chime in,
particularly those with a micro such as you have.

I hope all is going well otherwise. I hope you have settled into the
Great Plains and are ready for winter.
>>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller100@cox.net

Hi Deron,

On 16/10/2008, you wrote:

> No good news
>
[...]
> First, the UBoot configure screen always comes up. Keyboard stored with
> it was found to be disfunctional. Using a different keyboard works
> better, but the configure screen still always comes up. Have to hit
> esc, then return, to jump into the 4 choice menu (JIT, JITDebug, noJIT,
> noJIT Debug basically). This was true before the monitor died. Don't
> recall if it was that way before the move.
>
This is an annoyance that you should tolerate for the moment. Once you get
it all going again, you can streamline the boot process as required. Right
now, it's not causing the loss-of-signal problem.

> Letting the timer count down or hit return leads to the progress bar
> loading modules. After that, the monitor clicks off to "no signal". The
> system does not crash, and I have no reason to believe it has died but
> it could have. My gut reaction was that this new monitor does not
> support the screen mode it is trying to cut to.
>
Agreed, that is probably true, but it could be something else (less likely).

> The keyboard is a
> "standard" PS2 keyboard, but the mouse is a USB mouse. I don't recall
> ever being able to use the mouse buttons to bring up the early startup
> screen, but none the less it doesn't work now.
>
Depending on the age of your U-Boot and the slb (Second Level Booter) on
your system drive, a USB mouse may not be able to get to the ESS. If you
can find a PS/2 mouse or even a USB-PS/2 adaptor (one of those green things
that comes with every USB mouse), you can eliminate another variable.

> I've tried shift, control, windows keys, scroll lock, both mouse
> buttons, left mouse, right mouse, and a few choice words. Before,
> during and immediately after the progress bar loading modules goes
> away. Mostly immediately after the bar goes away.
>
The critical time is from (just before the loading process ends) to (a few
seconds after that). The buttons are sampled after the end of the loading
process and before it jumps to the next stage in the boot process.

> I did find the OS4 Update 4 disk. I don't recall if it is just the
> download or a full bootable ISO burn. The CD drive in the uA1 is dead
> (sure it needs at least a serous cleaning) but I am willing to take a
> near new DVD drive and install to see if it will boot from the CD if
> someone thinks this will help.
>
We'll have to get you an update to something more modern. There have been
about four newer releases since then. However, that is not important right
now.

> I had a setup that was working! I don't want to go backwards!! This is
> not fair!!!
>
There, there. Don't panic! Got your towel?

Firstly, can you get a new battery for the mobo? It's a standard coin cell,
CR2032, only costs a few dollars from the local drugstore. Some People (not
all) have had system configurations that drain the battery very quickly,
even when it's been in storage. If the battery is flat, the system won't
boot, or the flame goes out after a few seconds, etc. It's simple and cheap
to replace and will eliminate a variable.

After that, you need a working CD drive to boot the installation disk, as
others have said. If you can get the CD booted, you should have a picture
(in case you've forgotten, booting from the CD is extremely slow and you
may think it's crashed or gone to sleep. Leave it for at least five minutes
before saying it doesn't work.)

Once you have a working install disk, you can get into the Monitor prefs.
You could for instance copy Devsicasso96Settings into <your system
HD>evs and Sysreferences/Env-Archive/Sys/screenmode.prefs also.

If it were me, I'd perform an Upgrade installation as well, (just to make
sure that everything is there). You can skip that if you like, but it's the
next step if monitor/screenmode prefs doesn't fix it, and it's easy to do
(just sit back und watch das blinkenlights).

After that, well, we'll take it as it comes.

cheers
tony

Hi Nick Clover,

On 16/10/2008, on the subject of "Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb Amiga
question", you wrote:

> Wow, you really like to do things the hard way! Just hold down the
> right mouse button when booting and p96 is disabled so you will boot
> into a fake native (640x480x screen. there you can try to run
> screenmode prefs or delete envarc:sys/screenmode.prefs

No, that does not work for me :^/. I have a PS2 mouse.

Deron: Tony's advice is very sound, I couldn't have put it better myself.

--
Steve Bowman - Sydney, Australia

"He's muffed it," said Simony. "he could have done *anything* with
them. And he just told them the facts. You can't inspire people with
facts. They need a cause. They need a symbol."

-- (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods)

PageStream Support schrieb:

> First, the UBoot configure screen always comes up. Keyboard stored with
> it was found to be disfunctional. Using a different keyboard works
> better, but the configure screen still always comes up. Have to hit esc,
> then return, to jump into the 4 choice menu (JIT, JITDebug, noJIT, noJIT
> Debug basically). This was true before the monitor died. Don't recall if
> it was that way before the move.

That's some UBoot ENV var which must be set.. unfortunately i don't
remeber which one.. go to the UBoot prompt and enter "printenv" and
check for

boot_config=Default (should be set to your default OS4 boot.. JIT?)
boot_method=boota
boot1=ide (for integrated IDE, psii for SII parallel controler, etc.)
menuboot_cmd=boota; boota; boota

If some of them aren't correct, use "setenv <variable> <value>" and
"saveenv" for setting them.

You can check single variables with "printenv <variable>"

Or maybe just enter the settings with ESC, check if there is everything
OK in the boot sequence, Amiga boot options and if it is set to "Amiga
Multiboot" .. then leave the menu with "Save settings and exit". This
should drop you in the UBoot prompt .. with "reset" your can restart
the system and then it should hopefully autoamtically boot into the SLB.

> Letting the timer count down or hit return leads to the progress bar
> loading modules. After that, the monitor clicks off to "no signal". The
> system does not crash, and I have no reason to believe it has died but
> it could have. My gut reaction was that this new monitor does not
> support the screen mode it is trying to cut to. The keyboard is a
> "standard" PS2 keyboard, but the mouse is a USB mouse. I don't recall
> ever being able to use the mouse buttons to bring up the early startup
> screen, but none the less it doesn't work now.
>
> I've tried shift, control, windows keys, scroll lock, both mouse
> buttons, left mouse, right mouse, and a few choice words. Before, during
> and immediately after the progress bar loading modules goes away. Mostly
> immediately after the bar goes away.

If you can, use a PS/2 to USB adaptor for the mouse. I figured that
PS/2 connected input devices (even via adaptors) react a bit faster
to the initialization and thus let you enter the ESM easier.

This ESM issue is a PITA... i know

> I did find the OS4 Update 4 disk. I don't recall if it is just the
> download or a full bootable ISO burn. The CD drive in the uA1 is dead
> (sure it needs at least a serous cleaning) but I am willing to take a
> near new DVD drive and install to see if it will boot from the CD if
> someone thinks this will help.

don't forget that you may have to do an ide reset before trying to boot
off the CD, just in case it wasn't recognized correctly.. i.e. go to
the UBoot prompt, insert the CD and enter "ide reset x" where x is your
controller .. for the internal A1 controller that would be 0 IIRC. Then
it should list you your drives and the correct capacity of the CD.

After that you can boot off from it with "diskboot 500000 x y:0" where
x is again your controller and y the drive number shown in the ide reset
output. After a simple "boot" it should work...

hmmm.. thinking about it ... i'm not sure the OS4 Update 1 CD is still
UBoot-bootable.. maybe you just have to change the boot1 source in the
boot sequence menu from Onboard IDE HD to Onboard CDROM or whereever
your CD drive is connected to and than boot off it with "boota" ..

> I had a setup that was working! I don't want to go backwards!! This is
> not fair!!!

No need to go backwards... you just have to boot from the OS4 CD and
there delete your envarc:sys/screenmode.prefs on your HD .. maybe also
change the tooltypes in devs:Monitors/Radeon... or just copy both files
over from the CD ... that should give you a working screenmode again
which you can modify later on.

--
Bye,
Costel 'Cyborg' Mincea

PageStream Support wrote on 16.10.2008
about <Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb Amiga question> the following:

> No good news

as if we amigans are not used to bad news (

> All great suggestions, but something else is misbehaving. Let me tell
> you the symptoms and maybe someone has some magic I can try.
>
> This is with OS4(.0) update 4 installed on an A1. (actually, microA1
> that came to me new April 05).

quite old version! you should immediately install at least the final update
+ the following july update. iirc there were changes in the kernel. this is
to be sure the compiled pagestream versions are working at your customers.
of course os 4.1 would be even nicer :-}
hyperion will surely send you the updates.

reading the symptoms i have no idea but trying to boot from the original cd
which does not seem to work? if you've had an a1xe i'd suggest to change
the battery on board. i don't know if this is true for the micro, too.
but i definitely would give it a try before doing anything else. especially
before reinstalling!

good lock!!

byebye...
--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael
Member ofhttp://www.amiga-freunde.de

Hello Steve

On 17/10/2008, you wrote:

> Hi Nick Clover,
>
> On 16/10/2008, on the subject of "Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb Amiga
> question", you wrote:
>
>> Wow, you really like to do things the hard way! Just hold down the
>> right mouse button when booting and p96 is disabled so you will boot
>> into a fake native (640x480x screen. there you can try to run
>> screenmode prefs or delete envarc:sys/screenmode.prefs
>
> No, that does not work for me :^/. I have a PS2 mouse.

It shouldn't matter what sort of mouse you use, I have both ps2 and usb and
both work here. The RMB thing has been there since the first P96 release. a
KVM can mess it up though...

> Deron: Tony's advice is very sound, I couldn't have put it better myself.
>
Regards
--
<sb>Nick Clover
<sb>Corripe Cervisiam
<sb>
<sb>I never have any idea of what anyone (including myself.. scratch that,
ESPECIALLY myself) is talking about ever. I find it is safer that way. I
always have deniability should things turn serious.
<sb>

Hi Nick Clover,

On 18/10/2008, on the subject of "Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb Amiga
question", you wrote:

> Hello Steve
>
> On 17/10/2008, you wrote:
>
>> Hi Nick Clover,
>>
>> On 16/10/2008, on the subject of "Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb
>> Amiga question", you wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, you really like to do things the hard way! Just hold down the
>>> right mouse button when booting and p96 is disabled so you will
>>> boot into a fake native (640x480x screen. there you can try to
>>> run screenmode prefs or delete envarc:sys/screenmode.prefs
>>
>> No, that does not work for me :^/. I have a PS2 mouse.
>
> It shouldn't matter what sort of mouse you use, I have both ps2 and
> usb and both work here. The RMB thing has been there since the first
> P96 release. a KVM can mess it up though...

It's working now, I don't know why it wasn't yesterday, hmmm. I was only
warm booting yesterday, maybe the cold boot since has done it.

A very nice tip btw, I didn't realize the RMB would boot to a 640x480
fakenative mode, very handy.

I guess this is what Deron should try, a much easier solution :^).

--
Steve Bowman - Sydney, Australia

"Today Is A Good Day For Someone Else To Die!"

-- (Terry Pratchett, Feet of Clay)

Hello Steve

On 18/10/2008, you wrote:

> Hi Nick Clover,
>
> On 18/10/2008, on the subject of "Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb Amiga
> question", you wrote:
>
>> Hello Steve
>>
>> On 17/10/2008, you wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nick Clover,
>>>
>>> On 16/10/2008, on the subject of "Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Dumb
>>> Amiga question", you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow, you really like to do things the hard way! Just hold down the
>>>> right mouse button when booting and p96 is disabled so you will
>>>> boot into a fake native (640x480x screen. there you can try to
>>>> run screenmode prefs or delete envarc:sys/screenmode.prefs
>>>
>>> No, that does not work for me :^/. I have a PS2 mouse.
>>
>> It shouldn't matter what sort of mouse you use, I have both ps2 and
>> usb and both work here. The RMB thing has been there since the first
>> P96 release. a KVM can mess it up though...
>
> It's working now, I don't know why it wasn't yesterday, hmmm. I was only
> warm booting yesterday, maybe the cold boot since has done it.
>
> A very nice tip btw, I didn't realize the RMB would boot to a 640x480
> fakenative mode, very handy.
>
> I guess this is what Deron should try, a much easier solution :^).

Another tip for you Deron...

Holding down the CTRL key while booting will take you straight into a shell
the same as accessing the early boot menu and booting with no startup.

Regards
--
<sb>Nick Clover
<sb>Corripe Cervisiam
<sb>
<sb>I never have any idea of what anyone (including myself.. scratch that,
ESPECIALLY myself) is talking about ever. I find it is safer that way. I
always have deniability should things turn serious.
<sb>

I saw here a very usefull bunch of tips,
but if the battery is gone I think none of them can work,
for some unknown reason the A1's (or it's A1s') doesn't
work if the battery is low in voltage,
so before you loose other time check your battery.

Ah remember to check the battery
Please check the battery

P.S. maybe I forgot to tell to you to check the battery

Hello Paolo

Has anyone suggested checking the battery?

On 21/10/2008, you wrote:

> I saw here a very usefull bunch of tips,
> but if the battery is gone I think none of them can work,
> for some unknown reason the A1's (or it's A1s') doesn't
> work if the battery is low in voltage,
> so before you loose other time check your battery.
>
> Ah remember to check the battery
> Please check the battery
>
>
> P.S. maybe I forgot to tell to you to check the battery
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
Regards
--
<sb>Nick Clover
<sb>Corripe Cervisiam
<sb>
<sb>I never have any idea of what anyone (including myself.. scratch that,
ESPECIALLY myself) is talking about ever. I find it is safer that way. I
always have deniability should things turn serious.
<sb>

Thanks Paolo (and everyone else). I've set the A1 asside until I can get
to town. I'll pick up a PS/2 mouse and a new battery then.

Would a dead battery still allow uboot to come up and the modules to load?

Anyway, thanks for all the help. If we don't get too much rain today I
should be in town later this week and I'll be back at it. Until then,
I'm trying to setup a new Amiga 68k development system on my Mac laptop.
(I had been doing 68k development on the A1 as well with both compilers
installed).

Deron

> I saw here a very usefull bunch of tips,
> but if the battery is gone I think none of them can work,
> for some unknown reason the A1's (or it's A1s') doesn't
> work if the battery is low in voltage,
> so before you loose other time check your battery.
>
> Ah remember to check the battery
> Please check the battery
>
>
> P.S. maybe I forgot to tell to you to check the battery
>
>

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

> Would a dead battery still allow uboot to come up and the modules to load?

Probably. The behaviour is uncertain. Either the A1 doesn't boot, or it boots only
when it wants.
You can use any battery from any other computer, PC, Mac, Pegasos, at least to try.

Bye
--
Philippe 'Elwood' Ferrucci
Project Manager
Amiga Translator Organisation
http://elwoodb.free.fr

To clarify a bit, with a dead battery sometimes the system will boot up fine,
but most other times it'll be completely unresponsive - no UBoot, no nothing.
In my experience, unplugging and replugging the cord between the PSU and the
power strip (from the PSU end) usually worked to trick the system into coming
up. Don't know why.

>> Would a dead battery still allow uboot to come up and the modules to
>> load?
>
> Probably. The behaviour is uncertain. Either the A1 doesn't boot, or it
> boots only when it wants.
> You can use any battery from any other computer, PC, Mac, Pegasos, at
> least to try.
>
> Bye

Nick Clover wrote on 21.10.2008
about <Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Re: Dumb Amiga question> the following:

> Hello Paolo
>
> Has anyone suggested checking the battery?

i believe i did yes i did.

byebye...
--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael
Member ofhttp://www.amiga-freunde.de

PageStream Support wrote on 21.10.2008
about <Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Re: Dumb Amiga question> the following:

> Thanks Paolo (and everyone else). I've set the A1 asside until I can
> get to town. I'll pick up a PS/2 mouse and a new battery then.
>
> Would a dead battery still allow uboot to come up and the modules to
> load?

usually the battery is not suddenly dead but weak. and the a1 does not like
weak batteries at all, resulting in the symptoms you described.

my battery was dead several years ago after the a1 sat silent for several
months as no os4 was available then.
it then simply did not boot at all. iirc i even was not able to start uboot.

> Anyway, thanks for all the help. If we don't get too much rain today I
> should be in town later this week and I'll be back at it. Until then,
> I'm trying to setup a new Amiga 68k development system on my Mac
> laptop. (I had been doing 68k development on the A1 as well with both
> compilers installed).

we hope all the best! good luck!

byebye...
--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael
Member ofhttp://www.amiga-freunde.de