Hello,

Pouring over some of the last of the crash reports from the last version
(yes, I've managed to find and fix a couple strange bugs so hopefully we
are getting closer) and I noticed that 1) the personalize dialog box is
failing to draw the PageStream running man logo properly, and one of
these crash logs shows it crashing at that point.

The particular user was a MorphOS user with a True Color (ie 24bit)
screen. So I'm asking if anyone is getting a crash at load if they could
make sure that they are using a non-true color screen and see if things
change. I'm working on fixing the problem on my screen, which will
hopefully fix the problem for others, but it would be good to know if it
can be shown to be a problem for others.

One other small thing. The display code is some old stuff, but it looks
like for MorphOS I am using p96 to draw to a true color screen, and for
OS4 and OS3, I'm using Cybergfx. But I don't remember why I made that
difference. To prevent me from having to relearn my reasoning, anyone
know why off the top of their head? Thanks!

Deron

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Hi Deron,

On 18/02/2010, you wrote:

> One other small thing. The display code is some old stuff, but it looks
> like for MorphOS I am using p96 to draw to a true color screen, and for
> OS4 and OS3, I'm using Cybergfx. But I don't remember why I made that
> difference. To prevent me from having to relearn my reasoning, anyone
> know why off the top of their head? Thanks!
>
Are you sure it's not the other way around? Cybergraphics is not supported
in OS4 AFAIK. There are library stubs for it, but no supporting library, so
it's probably just an emulator in P96.
>
cheers
tony

Hi PageStream,

On 18/02/2010, you wrote:
> Hello,

> Pouring over some of the last of the crash reports from the last
> version (yes, I've managed to find and fix a couple strange bugs so
> hopefully we are getting closer) and I noticed that 1) the personalize
> dialog box is failing to draw the PageStream running man logo properly,
> and one of these crash logs shows it crashing at that point.

didn't check for that bit, but i did notice that when trying to install the
"extras", nothing else seemed to happen and PGS just disappeared. When
running again, it crashed my system.

> The particular user was a MorphOS user with a True Color (ie 24bit)
> screen. So I'm asking if anyone is getting a crash at load if they
> could make sure that they are using a non-true color screen and see if
> things change. I'm working on fixing the problem on my screen, which
> will hopefully fix the problem for others, but it would be good to know
> if it can be shown to be a problem for others.

> One other small thing. The display code is some old stuff, but it looks
> like for MorphOS I am using p96 to draw to a true color screen, and for
> OS4 and OS3, I'm using Cybergfx. But I don't remember why I made that
> difference. To prevent me from having to relearn my reasoning, anyone
> know why off the top of their head? Thanks!

Don't really understand these things, but I know I'm using P96 here ...

Bye for now,
--

Women like silent men. They think they're listening.
-- Marcel Archard

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>
>> The particular user was a MorphOS user with a True Color (ie 24bit)
>> screen. So I'm asking if anyone is getting a crash at load if they
>> could make sure that they are using a non-true color screen and see if
>> things change.
> Don't really understand these things, but I know I'm using P96 here ...
>

Sorry. Let me be more clear then. If you are running a 24bit (or 16bit)
color workbench, try a 256 color (or less) workbench and run PageStream.

Deron

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

On 02/18/2010, PageStream Support wrote:

>[...]
> Sorry. Let me be more clear then. If you are running a 24bit (or 16bit)
> color workbench, try a 256 color (or less) workbench and run
> PageStream.

OS4.1.1 Radeon 9250:1024x1028x128 (ugly!)

Tried to start from shell with Snoopy running (and had inserted a
PageStream5.prefs with only "DEBUG" in it into UserPrefs).

On screen, Snoopy got as far as four PageStream commands--couldn't see
exactly what they were because they ran off the window (a second attempt,
to save to a file, failed). Then mouse and keyboard conk out, and reset
button must be pushed.

The machine doesn't die completely. LimpidClock continues to keep time, and
Workbench display continues to show it ticking away.

Bart Mathias

Just tried a 256-color screen on my OS3.9 system - still crashed at the
Personalize window while loading the PageStream guy. This is the .54 release.
Deron, what kind of crash logs are most helpful to you? I can get Sashimi
output pretty easily.

As to your P96/CGX coding history, my understanding is that Cybergraphx is the
way to go for maximum compatibility. A Picasso96 system will run Cybergraphx
stuff just fine, but I don't know about the other way around.

(Incidentally, my 3.9 system uses CGX.)

-Matt

On 02/18/2010, you wrote:

>
>>
>>> The particular user was a MorphOS user with a True Color (ie 24bit)
>>> screen. So I'm asking if anyone is getting a crash at load if they
>>> could make sure that they are using a non-true color screen and see if
>>> things change.
>> Don't really understand these things, but I know I'm using P96 here ...
>>
>
>
> Sorry. Let me be more clear then. If you are running a 24bit (or 16bit)
> color workbench, try a 256 color (or less) workbench and run PageStream.
>
> Deron
>

Greetings "PageStream Support" <deron@pagestream.org>
On 19/02/2010 at 00:02 you wrote concerning
Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] Please test this idea out

Hi Deron,

PS> Sorry. Let me be more clear then. If you are running a 24bit (or 16bit)
PS> color workbench, try a 256 color (or less) workbench and run PageStream.

Tried the above with version 5.0.5.4 running under OS4.0 on an AmigaOne.

Behaviour is exactly the same as previously: Click away the yellow alert (glyph #126) and immediately the system freezes. Tried from both a shell and from Workbench screen.
The executable PageStream5, and associated data, was in RAM:.

So, not good news from this corner.

Cheers Don (Green Dragon)
--

PageStream Support wrote on 18.02.2010
about <[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Please test this idea out> the following:

> Hello,
>
> Pouring over some of the last of the crash reports from the last
> version (yes, I've managed to find and fix a couple strange bugs so
> hopefully we are getting closer) and I noticed that 1) the personalize
> dialog box is failing to draw the PageStream running man logo properly,
> and one of these crash logs shows it crashing at that point.
>
> The particular user was a MorphOS user with a True Color (ie 24bit)
> screen. So I'm asking if anyone is getting a crash at load if they
> could make sure that they are using a non-true color screen and see if
> things change. I'm working on fixing the problem on my screen, which
> will hopefully fix the problem for others, but it would be good to know
> if it can be shown to be a problem for others.

i just tried to set my (wb) screen to 8bit without luck. does not improve
anything

> One other small thing. The display code is some old stuff, but it looks
> like for MorphOS I am using p96 to draw to a true color screen, and for
> OS4 and OS3, I'm using Cybergfx. But I don't remember why I made that
> difference. To prevent me from having to relearn my reasoning, anyone
> know why off the top of their head? Thanks!

wouldn't it be more like vice versa? morphos should use cybergfx and os4
picasso96.

regards...
--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael
Member ofhttp://www.amiga-freunde.de

>> One other small thing. The display code is some old stuff, but it looks
>> like for MorphOS I am using p96 to draw to a true color screen, and for
>> OS4 and OS3, I'm using Cybergfx. But I don't remember why I made that
>> difference. To prevent me from having to relearn my reasoning, anyone
>> know why off the top of their head? Thanks!
>>
>
> wouldn't it be more like vice versa? morphos should use cybergfx and os4
> picasso96.
>
> regards...
>

I may have misstated what the code was doing. It was something nagging
at the back of my mind, and someone here might have some history to
enlighten me

Deron

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Something Really Strange happened here, on my A1, OS4.1.1.

I probably hadn't tried to run what I call PgS5Alpha (PageStream5 5.0.4.46,
3256344 bytes) or PgSPro (PageStream5Pro 5.0.4.46, 3280696 bytes) since
upgrading to OS4.1.1.

Today I tried them both, clicking on the icons rather than invoking from the
shell. All I got was the window with

SL_SystemInit #1
SL_SystemInit #2
SL_SystemInit #3 OS open
SL_SystemInit #5 APP open
SL_SystemInit #6 DISPLAY open
SL_SystemInit #7 done

Nothing else happened, no matter how long I waited. My purpose had been to
get the old GR without hanging input, learning how to use Sashimi. But no
Grim Reaper with either of them.

Here is the Strange Thing: I next clicked the 5.0.5.4 icon, which normally
does nothing but run the hard drive for a few seconds, and then shortly
after that kill the mouse and keyboard, necessitating a cold reboot with
the reset button.

In this case, I got a Grim Reaper, said ignore DSI errors, and nothing else
happened. I saved some debug (PageStream and DumpDebug and Sashimi) files
and warm-rebooted.

This time I went directly to the 5.0.5.4 icon, and it ran the hard drive for
a few seconds, and then shortly after that killed the mouse and keyboard,
necessitating a cold reboot with the reset button.

Next I repeated the alpha 5.0.4.46, pro 5.0.4.46 series and clicked 5.0.5.4,
got the GR, said "Ignore," and here I am without rebooting telling about it
in a YAM window.

Next I saved this just in case, and then clicked 5.0.5.4 again, with the
same GR result and nothing bad happening.

Meanwhile I have 248 lines of what I think is Sashimi output that is
identical to what DumpDebugBuffer provided, and 336 line versions, plus a
55-line AppDebug text. I don't know if they have anything that hasn't been
sent already, but I will e-mail to Deron if he thinks they might be useful.
They mostly end with:

Page information:
Page not found

Task 0x697BCC00 (PageStream5) bad access @ 0x0000003C, pc = 0x7F85D428, lr =
0x7F85D228,
SL_AppInitA #1
SL_AppInitA #2
SL_AppInitA #3a defdir:testpartition:pgs5054
SL_AppInitA #4
setting APPATTR_FontList newmenu #6
setting APPATTR_FontList newmenu #7
SL_AppInitA #5
makepath SOFTLOGIK_USERPREFSPATH buff:testpartition:pgs5054/UserPrefs
init_instance #1
init_instance #2 portnameageStream
init_instance #3 portnameAGESTREAM
init_instance #4 aport:67ADDEC0
init_instance #5-duplicate
init_instance #6-duplicate
init_instance #8-FALSE
Task 0x697BCC00 (PageStream5) bad access @ 0x0000003C, pc = 0x7F85D1B4, lr =
0x7F85D174,
Task 0x697BCC00 (PageStream5) bad access @ 0x0000003C, pc = 0x7F85D428, lr =
0x7F85D228,

Bart

> Here is the Strange Thing: I next clicked the 5.0.5.4 icon, which normally
> does nothing but run the hard drive for a few seconds, and then shortly
> after that kill the mouse and keyboard, necessitating a cold reboot with
> the reset button.
>

Running as a CLI or a Workbench application? Much more reported success
with CLI.

However, it doesn't really tell us anything. Without an "avail flush"
you will have an unknown mixture of old and new libraries. Strictly old,
unless it failed to load all.

>
> Meanwhile I have 248 lines of what I think is Sashimi output that is
> identical to what DumpDebugBuffer provided, and 336 line versions, plus a
> 55-line AppDebug text. I don't know if they have anything that hasn't been
> sent already, but I will e-mail to Deron if he thinks they might be useful.
>

yes please. Send privately to support@pagestream.org if you can.

Deron

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Hello PageStream

On 21/02/2010, you wrote:

> However, it doesn't really tell us anything. Without an "avail flush"
> you will have an unknown mixture of old and new libraries. Strictly old,
> unless it failed to load all.

Avail flush does nothing on OS4 btw, it's been obsolete since the newmem
system was introduced. OS4.1u1 users have automatic library flushing, a newer
version will always replace an older one in ram, so OS4.1u1 users MUST reboot
before trying to run an older version because it will be using the newer
libraries in ram which will make any debug info useless.

Regards
--
<sb>Nick Clover
<sb>Corripe Cervisiam
<sb>
<sb>I never have any idea of what anyone (including myself.. scratch that,
ESPECIALLY myself) is talking about ever. I find it is safer that way. I
always have deniability should things turn serious.
<sb>

I had to copy a "PageStream5 Fonts" from another version before I could
type. Also without that file I was able to load "5.0 Flyer.pgs" graphics
only.

And the Edit Palette's font requester doesn't work--I can get limited font
selection from Type > Font menu, though.

I have two debug texts that don't seem to report any bugs, but am about to
send them to Deron.

Oh, and there was one bad bile in the archive according to Unarc. Something
about "pgsuser/" and "Palette" something or other. I thought I would copy
it over from 5.0.5.4, but I couldn't find it there. Doesn't seem necessary.

Bart

Greetings "Bart Mathias" <mathias@hawaii.edu>
On 26/02/2010 at 08:27 you wrote concerning
[PageStreamAmigaBeta] 5.0.5.5 a big improvement!

Hi Bart,

Hmmmmm! He's ahead of me again!!

BM> I had to copy a "PageStream5 Fonts" from another version before I could
BM> type. Also without that file I was able to load "5.0 Flyer.pgs" graphics
BM> only.

BM> And the Edit Palette's font requester doesn't work--I can get limited font
BM> selection from Type > Font menu, though.

BM> I have two debug texts that don't seem to report any bugs, but am about to
BM> send them to Deron.

BM> Oh, and there was one bad bile in the archive according to Unarc. Something
BM> about "pgsuser/" and "Palette" something or other. I thought I would copy
BM> it over from 5.0.5.4, but I couldn't find it there. Doesn't seem necessary.

Did not get as far as Bart! I've downloaded the .lha for 5.0.5.5 twice now but was unable to unpack via Unarc. The complaint from Unarc was

----------------------
Error while unpacking

Ram Disk:Help/PGSuser/Illustrations/Palette.Color.gif
---------------------

and then Unarc decided to Abort. I don't ever recall having a 'bad' download from Grasshopper, but in view of Bart's comments, we appear to be getting the same complaint from Unarc.

The unpacking completed as far as creating the directories

Help and Graphics in Ram:

I'll check tomorrow and use iBrowse for the download. By then maybe we will have heard from other downloaders.

By the way, how does on check that the MD5 checksum that Deron lists at Grasshopper with whatever is downloaded???

Good work Deron, hope we get more positive replies soon.

Cheers Don (Green Dragon)
--

Hello Don

On 26/02/2010, you wrote:

> Greetings "Bart Mathias" <mathias@hawaii.edu>
> On 26/02/2010 at 08:27 you wrote concerning
> [PageStreamAmigaBeta] 5.0.5.5 a big improvement!
>
> Hi Bart,
>
> Hmmmmm! He's ahead of me again!!
>
>> I had to copy a "PageStream5 Fonts" from another version before I could
>> type. Also without that file I was able to load "5.0 Flyer.pgs" graphics
>> only.
>
>> And the Edit Palette's font requester doesn't work--I can get limited
>> font selection from Type > Font menu, though.
>
>> I have two debug texts that don't seem to report any bugs, but am about
>> to send them to Deron.
>
>> Oh, and there was one bad bile in the archive according to Unarc.
>> Something about "pgsuser/" and "Palette" something or other. I thought I
>> would copy it over from 5.0.5.4, but I couldn't find it there. Doesn't
>> seem necessary.
>
> Did not get as far as Bart! I've downloaded the .lha for 5.0.5.5 twice
> now but was unable to unpack via Unarc. The complaint from Unarc was
>
> ----------------------
> Error while unpacking
>
> Ram Disk:Help/PGSuser/Illustrations/Palette.Color.gif
> ---------------------
>
> and then Unarc decided to Abort. I don't ever recall having a 'bad'
> download from Grasshopper, but in view of Bart's comments, we appear to
> be getting the same complaint from Unarc.

Start unarc in manual mode, easiest from a shell ("unarc <filename&path>
ram:") and just untick the palette.colour.gif file in the list.

> The unpacking completed as far as creating the directories

>
> By the way, how does on check that the MD5 checksum that Deron lists at
> Grasshopper with whatever is downloaded???

In a shell type "Md5sum <filename & path of the archive" without the quotes...

> Good work Deron, hope we get more positive replies soon.
>
>
> Cheers Don (Green Dragon)
Regards
--
<sb>Nick Clover
<sb>Corripe Cervisiam
<sb>
<sb>I never have any idea of what anyone (including myself.. scratch that,
ESPECIALLY myself) is talking about ever. I find it is safer that way. I
always have deniability should things turn serious.
<sb>

Hello Don

I've just done some tests and the original archive is borked, the md5sum is
correct so that means it was probably broken when the archive was created
so don't bother try to download it until it's been updated.

I've no idea how bart got it working though, lha doesn't get anywhere near
extracting the exe files.

On 26/02/2010, you wrote:

> Greetings "Bart Mathias" <mathias@hawaii.edu>
> On 26/02/2010 at 08:27 you wrote concerning
> [PageStreamAmigaBeta] 5.0.5.5 a big improvement!
>
> Hi Bart,
>
> Hmmmmm! He's ahead of me again!!
>
>> I had to copy a "PageStream5 Fonts" from another version before I could
>> type. Also without that file I was able to load "5.0 Flyer.pgs" graphics
>> only.
>
>> And the Edit Palette's font requester doesn't work--I can get limited
>> font selection from Type > Font menu, though.
>
>> I have two debug texts that don't seem to report any bugs, but am about
>> to send them to Deron.
>
>> Oh, and there was one bad bile in the archive according to Unarc.
>> Something about "pgsuser/" and "Palette" something or other. I thought I
>> would copy it over from 5.0.5.4, but I couldn't find it there. Doesn't
>> seem necessary.
>
> Did not get as far as Bart! I've downloaded the .lha for 5.0.5.5 twice
> now but was unable to unpack via Unarc. The complaint from Unarc was
>
> ----------------------
> Error while unpacking
>
> Ram Disk:Help/PGSuser/Illustrations/Palette.Color.gif
> ---------------------
>
> and then Unarc decided to Abort. I don't ever recall having a 'bad'
> download from Grasshopper, but in view of Bart's comments, we appear to
> be getting the same complaint from Unarc.
>
> The unpacking completed as far as creating the directories
>
> Help and Graphics in Ram:
>
> I'll check tomorrow and use iBrowse for the download. By then maybe we
> will have heard from other downloaders.
>
> By the way, how does on check that the MD5 checksum that Deron lists at
> Grasshopper with whatever is downloaded???
>
> Good work Deron, hope we get more positive replies soon.
>
>
> Cheers Don (Green Dragon)
Regards
--
<sb>Nick Clover
<sb>Corripe Cervisiam
<sb>
<sb>I never have any idea of what anyone (including myself.. scratch that,
ESPECIALLY myself) is talking about ever. I find it is safer that way. I
always have deniability should things turn serious.
<sb>

Ferguson, Don wrote:
> Greetings "Bart Mathias" <mathias@hawaii.edu>
> On 26/02/2010 at 08:27 you wrote concerning
> [PageStreamAmigaBeta] 5.0.5.5 a big improvement!
>
> Hi Bart,
>
> Hmmmmm! He's ahead of me again!!
>
> BM> I had to copy a "PageStream5 Fonts" from another version before I could
> BM> type. Also without that file I was able to load "5.0 Flyer.pgs" graphics
> BM> only.
>
> BM> And the Edit Palette's font requester doesn't work--I can get limited font
> BM> selection from Type > Font menu, though.
>
> BM> I have two debug texts that don't seem to report any bugs, but am about to
> BM> send them to Deron.
>
> BM> Oh, and there was one bad bile in the archive according to Unarc. Something
> BM> about "pgsuser/" and "Palette" something or other. I thought I would copy
> BM> it over from 5.0.5.4, but I couldn't find it there. Doesn't seem necessary.
>
> Did not get as far as Bart! I've downloaded the .lha for 5.0.5.5 twice now but was unable to unpack via Unarc. The complaint from Unarc was
>
> ----------------------
> Error while unpacking
>
> Ram Disk:Help/PGSuser/Illustrations/Palette.Color.gif
> ---------------------
>
> and then Unarc decided to Abort. I don't ever recall having a 'bad' download from Grasshopper, but in view of Bart's comments, we appear to be getting the same complaint from Unarc.
>
> The unpacking completed as far as creating the directories
>
> Help and Graphics in Ram:
>
> I'll check tomorrow and use iBrowse for the download. By then maybe we will have heard from other downloaders.
>
> By the way, how does on check that the MD5 checksum that Deron lists at Grasshopper with whatever is downloaded???
>
> Good work Deron, hope we get more positive replies soon.
>
>
> Cheers Don (Green Dragon)
>

Hmm. I think there is an MD5 tool for the Amiga. I know I found it when
I settled on MD5 for the downloads page...

I'm going to rebuild the archive and reupload it now if 2 people had
problems. No changes, so if it downloaded and worked before no need to
redownload. I'll just slip it into the same file location so you will
not get a notification. Maybe my HD is flaky (don't you dare even
suggest that... Just got my 4th development system up and running on the
computer....) or I got a bad copy myself. I generate the MD5 on the Mac
where I upload from.

I have taken the old one down now, so if you can see a file after
reading this then it is the new one.

Deron

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Thanks Bart,

Do you know, does the Font Prefs dialog not work, or where you simply
doing it the "easy" way?

No surprise on the edit palette font requester. I updated that last year
on all the platforms, but I wrote the Amiga code blind and forgot all
about it until you said something :-0 The font popup is now a tree
(menu, submenu) and you can select different font collections to view,
different sorting etc.

I know of several broken things like that, and I hope we are ready to
put together a list of them and not "I can't run it" !!

Ok, so in anticipation of that (once everyone downloads the new archive,
just finished uploading and now available)

- Can't adjust font prefs??
- Font popup broken.

Deron

> I had to copy a "PageStream5 Fonts" from another version before I could
> type. Also without that file I was able to load "5.0 Flyer.pgs" graphics
> only.
>
> And the Edit Palette's font requester doesn't work--I can get limited font
> selection from Type > Font menu, though.
>
> I have two debug texts that don't seem to report any bugs, but am about to
> send them to Deron.
>
> Oh, and there was one bad bile in the archive according to Unarc. Something
> about "pgsuser/" and "Palette" something or other. I thought I would copy
> it over from 5.0.5.4, but I couldn't find it there. Doesn't seem necessary.
>
> Bart
>
>
>

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Hello PageStream

On 26/02/2010, you wrote:

> I'm going to rebuild the archive and reupload it now if 2 people had
> problems. No changes, so if it downloaded and worked before no need to
> redownload. I'll just slip it into the same file location so you will
> not get a notification. Maybe my HD is flaky (don't you dare even
> suggest that... Just got my 4th development system up and running on the
> computer....) or I got a bad copy myself. I generate the MD5 on the Mac
> where I upload from.
>
> I have taken the old one down now, so if you can see a file after
> reading this then it is the new one.

Downloaded and extracted fine.

First run registered ok, I clicked on install on the next window which closed
then nothing else happened (Dumpdebugbuffer1.txt), then I rebooted and ran it
again and nothing happened (Dumpdebugbuffer2.txt).

System:

Sam flex, 733 Mhz, 1gb ram, current beta OS4.1.

Regards
--
<sb>Nick Clover
<sb>Corripe Cervisiam
<sb>
<sb>I never have any idea of what anyone (including myself.. scratch that,
ESPECIALLY myself) is talking about ever. I find it is safer that way. I
always have deniability should things turn serious.
<sb>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello Nick

On 26/02/2010, you wrote:

> Hello PageStream
>
> On 26/02/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>> I'm going to rebuild the archive and reupload it now if 2 people had
>> problems. No changes, so if it downloaded and worked before no need to
>> redownload. I'll just slip it into the same file location so you will
>> not get a notification. Maybe my HD is flaky (don't you dare even
>> suggest that... Just got my 4th development system up and running on the
>> computer....) or I got a bad copy myself. I generate the MD5 on the Mac
>> where I upload from.
>>
>> I have taken the old one down now, so if you can see a file after
>> reading this then it is the new one.
>
> Downloaded and extracted fine.
>
> First run registered ok, I clicked on install on the next window which
> closed then nothing else happened (Dumpdebugbuffer1.txt), then I rebooted
> and ran it again and nothing happened (Dumpdebugbuffer2.txt).
>
> System:
>
> Sam flex, 733 Mhz, 1gb ram, current beta OS4.1.

opps, forgot the atachment stripping...

http://www.am1ga.net/dumpdebugbuffer1.txt
http://www.am1ga.net/dumpdebugbuffer2.txt

> Regards
Regards
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<sb>I never have any idea of what anyone (including myself.. scratch that,
ESPECIALLY myself) is talking about ever. I find it is safer that way. I
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Greetings "PageStream Support" <deron@pagestream.org>
On 26/02/2010 at 14:44 you wrote concerning
Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] 5.0.5.5 a big improvement!

Hi Deron,

Thanks for posting the revision of the .lha for 5.0.5.5 so quickly.

Just completed the download of the new guy and confirm that it unpackes without problems. Even did the md5 checksum bit, as guided by Nick, and it agreed with the checksum you post. So that's good!

Now to check it out!
<<snip>>
PS> Hmm. I think there is an MD5 tool for the Amiga. I know I found it when
PS> I settled on MD5 for the downloads page...

Yes, as Nick pointed out, the «md5sum» program

PS> I'm going to rebuild the archive and reupload it now if 2 people had
PS> problems. No changes, so if it downloaded and worked before no need to
PS> redownload. I'll just slip it into the same file location so you will
PS> not get a notification. Maybe my HD is flaky (don't you dare even
PS> suggest that... Just got my 4th development system up and running on the
PS> computer....) or I got a bad copy myself. I generate the MD5 on the Mac
PS> where I upload from.

PS> I have taken the old one down now, so if you can see a file after
PS> reading this then it is the new one.

As noted above, got it and it checks out okay.

Cheers Don (Green Dragon)
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Greetings "Nick Clover" <ncc@f2s.com>
On 26/02/2010 at 13:50 you wrote concerning
Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] 5.0.5.5 a big improvement!

Hi Nick,

<<snip>>
NC>> Did not get as far as Bart! I've downloaded the .lha for 5.0.5.5 twice
NC>> now but was unable to unpack via Unarc. The complaint from Unarc was
NC>>
NC>> ----------------------
NC>> Error while unpacking
NC>>
NC>> Ram Disk:Help/PGSuser/Illustrations/Palette.Color.gif
NC>> ---------------------
NC>>
NC>> and then Unarc decided to Abort. I don't ever recall having a 'bad'
NC>> download from Grasshopper, but in view of Bart's comments, we appear to
NC>> be getting the same complaint from Unarc.

NC> Start unarc in manual mode, easiest from a shell ("unarc <filename&path>
NC> ram:") and just untick the palette.colour.gif file in the list.

Turns out that by the time I read the above, Deron had posted a new download file, but thank you for the advice above. Very good to know.

NC>> The unpacking completed as far as creating the directories

NC>>
NC>> By the way, how does on check that the MD5 checksum that Deron lists at
NC>> Grasshopper with whatever is downloaded???

NC> In a shell type "Md5sum <filename & path of the archive" without the quotes...

With the new download, I performed the above and the shell returned the md5 sume that Deron had posted. Very nice, never done that before. This time Unarc confirmed that the unpacking was okay.

Cheers Don (Green Dragon)
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Greetings "PageStream Support" <deron@pagestream.org>
On 26/02/2010 at 14:44 you wrote concerning
Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] 5.0.5.5 a big improvement!

Hi Deron,

<<snip>>
PS> I have taken the old one down now, so if you can see a file after
PS> reading this then it is the new one.

Download and unpack of 5.0.5.5 okay now with the newer guy.

*First test:*
Activated the executable from its location in WorkageStream5055. "Registration" panel appears, data is filled in, then "Install files" paneal appears. I accept default values and click "Install". After that no response from PageStream5055.

*Second test:*
Warm reboot then attempt to start 5.0.5.5 from AmiDock. No response. Open

UserPrefs/PageStream5.prefs

and observe the rather tiny content, namely:

PREFERENCE FILE
USERNAME doncarvel
USERCOMPANY "Green Dragon"
PRODUCTKEY «deleted»
INSTALLED TRUE
SETDOCUMENTPATH ~/PageStream
SETTEXTPATH ~/PageStream/Text
SETGRAPHICPATH ~/PageStream/Graphics
SETSCRIPTPATH ~/PageStream/Scripts

So grab my old PageStream4.prefs file (from version 4.1.5.6) and attach it at the end of the above, but remove the old lines that begin

SETDOCUMENTPATH
SETTEXTPATH
SETGRAPHICPATH
SETSCRIPTPATH

since they are different from the ones above.

Try again! No luck. Get Yellow alert which when clicked away leaves me with a quiet Workbench screen. Try this both from the executable Pagestream5 file as well as from AmiDock, but in each case PageStream5055 does not open on Workbench or anywhere else.

*Third test:*
Go into UserPrefs/PageStream5.prefs and at the end of the file add the two lines:

Debug
Debugfile

then try to get PageStream5055 to run. No luck! At one point, the file AppDebug.txt was created but contained 0 bytes. However, after a few attempts I did get an AppDebug.txt file which I attach. It was created from either the AmiDock or directly from the executable in WorkageStream5055. Should be equivalent, but I'm not sure.

*Fourth test.*
Hide the existing AppDebug.txt file, do a warm reboot and attempt to run PageStream5055 from a shell with stack at 300,000 bytes. After RUN command, click away the Yellow alert, and subsequently PgS5055 opens on a MUI screen (same as PageStream 4.1.5.6 uses) with Toolbox and Toolbar and Edit Palette where I want them. NEW command on Navigator works. Also, a 'new' AppDebug.txt file has NOT been created.

Move to menu item File -> System Preferences -> Fonts...

and start adding font families to the "Font Preferences" window. Able to load two:

Fonts/Intellifonts/
Workagestream5033/TTFonts/SoftlogikFonts/

and all is well, but after loading a third family

Workagestream5033/TTFonts/DejaVu/

the GR guy appears. So I've attached the GR crash log to this as well. I asked for "Generate Stack Trace" and one was created but cannot see how to capture it.

Tried the "Ignore DSI errors" button in the GR window, and I'm returned to PgS5055 without problems it seems.

NOTE: When a navigation window opens, in part I have white text on a light gray backdrop. Comes from my PageStream4 settings, but the Colour Palette shows but black and white and I'm not sure how to modify that.

Things get screwed up, confusion of my part, so have to warm reboot.

*Fifth test.*
Now that PgS5055 has functioned, I figure it can be called from AmiDock or the executable, so warm reboot, and try, but no luck. Warm reboot.

*Sixth test.*
Check if a new AppDebug.txt file has been created, but only the OLD hidden guy is still hanging around. Open from a shell and note:

10 seconds for the shell to return from the RUN command,
6 to 10 seconds more for the Yellow alert to appear
18 to 19 seconds more and PgS5055 opens on its own MUI screen

I try to open a text frame, but the outline vanishes once the mouse is released. Start typing text, but after a bit realize that I'm simply creating a text block. So text blocks working, but cannot create a text frame --- so far. After a bit the PageStream screen freezes, but the OS still functions but very slowly. Warm reboot.

*Seventh test.*
Start from a shell without any problems. Try to load the x«5.0 Flyer.pgs». When the «Font Substitution» window opens, it is a futile struggle. When I click of a font name (e.g., Arial) then the font is not necessarily highlighted. If I click on the cycle gadget for "Convert to" or "Display as" then the highlighted state changes, so eventually I'm able to specify fonts other than Zip. (that a font name).

However, after all my careful font substitutions have been given, when the Flyer opens, everything is in Zip. Same behaviour when I opened the «Welcome to 5.0.pgs»; i.e., only Zip was used in the document. But both docs opened, the headers are in bad shape---probably because the wrong font is being used---but the graphics looks good, including the colour gradient in the «Welcome to ...» guy. These files open slowly---maybe 30 seconds.

So I tried to open the TestDocument.pgs chap, but s/he would not open. Well, that's what I thought, so continued to fool around with a NEW doc, and suddenly---after two or three minutes, I guess---the TestDocument.pgs opens. I did not fool with font substitution, so up comes page 1 with Zip font front and centre. Graphics looked fine. On attempting to move to page 2, the GR pops up. With a click on "Ignore DSI" we are returned to PgS5055.

However, the best of clicks will not advance to page 2 of the doc.

By the way, the Edit Palette has taken on a pleasant form. Initially, it was all squashed up horizontally.

Last note: The screen does NOT refresh properly on moving the the document around with either the horizontal or vertical scroll bars. That's a bummer.

So, almost in conclusion, it is working at about the level of 5.0.3.3 but not as fast, but much more testing to do. I agree with the Bart one that it looks promising. )

I'll send this off now, so that Deron can have a look. I'll send it to PageStreamBeta as well since the attachments will be stripped off.

*Final, final test:*
Closed PgS5055 from the Navigator, then attempted to open it again from a shell. Not only did it open again in its own MUI screen, but the Yellow alert guy did not surface. Good to end on a positive note.

Cheers Don (Green Dragon)
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Greetings "Nick Clover" <ncc@f2s.com>
On 26/02/2010 at 14:04 you wrote concerning
Re: [PageStreamAmigaBeta] 5.0.5.5 a big improvement!

Hi Nick,

NC> I've just done some tests and the original archive is borked, the md5sum is
NC> correct so that means it was probably broken when the archive was created
NC> so don't bother try to download it until it's been updated.

NC> I've no idea how bart got it working though, lha doesn't get anywhere near
NC> extracting the exe files.

He's a thin bugger that Bart! Always sneaking through impossibly small openings.

Just after reading your post, Deron came along with his note about posting a new download for 5.0.5.5 which I've downloaded and unpacked successfully. Now, to see how nicely it works.

Many thanks and

Cheers, Don (Green Dragon)

Nick Clover wrote:
> Hello Don
>
> I've just done some tests and the original archive is borked, the md5sum is
> correct so that means it was probably broken when the archive was created
> so don't bother try to download it until it's been updated.
>
> I've no idea how bart got it working though, lha doesn't get anywhere near
> extracting the exe files.
>

I unticked the offending file. There was only the one.

My Unarc remarked that the archive was corrupt, then proceded to
unarchive it until it got to the bad file and told me the name.

I'm wondering if I couldn't have left them all unticked except
PageStream5, then copy the new new into the PageStream 5.0.5.4. Might
try that next time.

Bart