Hi,

Due to circumstances somewhat out of my control I am now running SuSE 8.2 and
can't seem to get the last PgS Linux to execute. When run from the command
line it fails with

"./PageStream4: error while loading shared libraries: libSoftLogikDisp.so.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"

I have set the environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but it seems to make no
difference. I'm sure I've forgotten something, but I can't seem to find what.

Even though this is not how I had it working before and not the way I want it
setup, I copied the libraries to /usr/lib/, which worked. However, even
though the gimp (v1.2) runs fine PgS complained about missing gnome libraries
(specifically, libgnomeui-2.so.0). I found that SuSE had installed a libgnome
rpm, but not libgnomeui rpm. After resolving that PgS ran, though it
generated an error window in addition to the "first run" registration window.
The first run window never unghosted the ok button and the error window did
not respond to clicking on the "ok" or "details" button, or on the close
gadget.

Finally I tried clicking the close gadget of the "first run" window. This
caused the "ok" button to unghost and I was able to enter the registration
details. The error window didn't go away until I closed PgS.

The error window returns when I run PgS again. The message is:

"An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for
PageStream4. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly."

Thanks,

Tim Doty

Tim Doty wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Due to circumstances somewhat out of my control I am now running SuSE 8.2 and
> can't seem to get the last PgS Linux to execute. When run from the command
> line it fails with
>
> "./PageStream4: error while loading shared libraries: libSoftLogikDisp.so.1:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
>
> I have set the environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but it seems to make no
> difference. I'm sure I've forgotten something, but I can't seem to find what.

did you log out then back in again
(or open a new xterm after editing ~/.bashrc)?

~/.bashrc (or equivalent) is usually read at login.

I have to admit, that until it's finallised I'm using history to find
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:~/PageStream4/SoftLogik/lib/

so it reverts to the original LD_LIBRARY_PATH as soon as I close the xterm.

thanks,
<Ivan.

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On Wednesday 14 May 2003 04:51, Ivan Dunn wrote:
[snip]
> did you log out then back in again
> (or open a new xterm after editing ~/.bashrc)?

yes. Actually I also put it right on the commandline. What I forgot was the
shell I use (bash) uses the export command which seeing in your email jogged
my memory.

Thanks,

Tim Doty

>
> ~/.bashrc (or equivalent) is usually read at login.
>
> I have to admit, that until it's finallised I'm using history to find
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:~/PageStream4/SoftLogik/lib/
>
> so it reverts to the original LD_LIBRARY_PATH as soon as I close the xterm.
>
> thanks,
> <Ivan.

Okay, a couple of notes about running the PgS beta after installing SuSE 8.2

1. Even though the GIMP was installed and functioning there were missing
libraries. IIRC it was a libgnome rpm providing libgnome-2.so.0. A quick
check of the GIMP's dependencies shows that it does not depend on libgnome

2. Even with the missing library not installed there is an error starting PgS.
"Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you
need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due
to a system crash." "Details - 1: IOR file '/home/tim/.gconfd/lock/ior' not
opened successfully, no gconfd located: No such file or directory"

I checked and the directories are all there, but the file is not.

3. When running PgS from the GUI after closing a requestor comes up "Couldn't
find the program 'PageStream4'" This does not occur when running from the
commandline.

Note: I am running a clean install of SuSE 8.2 with KDE 3.1 for my desktop.

Tim Doty

On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 12:33:22PM -0500, Tim Doty wrote:
> Okay, a couple of notes about running the PgS beta after
> installing SuSE 8.2
>
> 1. Even though the GIMP was installed and functioning there were
> missing libraries. IIRC it was a libgnome rpm providing
> libgnome-2.so.0. A quick check of the GIMP's dependencies shows
> that it does not depend on libgnome
>
> 2. Even with the missing library not installed there is an error
> starting PgS. "Failed to contact configuration server; some
> possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for
> ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash."
> "Details - 1: IOR file '/home/tim/.gconfd/lock/ior' not opened
> successfully, no gconfd located: No such file or directory"
>
> I checked and the directories are all there, but the file is not.
>
> 3. When running PgS from the GUI after closing a requestor comes
> up "Couldn't find the program 'PageStream4'" This does not occur
> when running from the commandline.

Try "env >/tmp/env" in the requestor and compare the contents of
that to the environment at the command line.

> Note: I am running a clean install of SuSE 8.2 with KDE 3.1 for my
> desktop.

Did you also install Gnome during the clean install?

Can't say "it works for me" because I've not received any access to
the beta download.

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On Sunday 18 May 2003 19:50, Bernd Felsche wrote:
> On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 12:33:22PM -0500, Tim Doty wrote:
[snip]
> > 3. When running PgS from the GUI after closing a requestor comes
> > up "Couldn't find the program 'PageStream4'" This does not occur
> > when running from the commandline.
>
> Try "env >/tmp/env" in the requestor and compare the contents of
> that to the environment at the command line.

but the requestor just gives the error, nothing to get the env from.

> > Note: I am running a clean install of SuSE 8.2 with KDE 3.1 for my
> > desktop.
>
> Did you also install Gnome during the clean install?

IIRC that is part of the default install and I didn't change it, so yes. I
never login to gnome though.

Thanks for the feedback,

Tim Doty

On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 10:20:38PM -0500, Tim Doty wrote:
> On Sunday 18 May 2003 19:50, Bernd Felsche wrote:
> > On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 12:33:22PM -0500, Tim Doty wrote:
> [snip]
> > > 3. When running PgS from the GUI after closing a requestor comes
> > > up "Couldn't find the program 'PageStream4'" This does not occur
> > > when running from the commandline.
> >
> > Try "env >/tmp/env" in the requestor and compare the contents of
> > that to the environment at the command line.
>
> but the requestor just gives the error, nothing to get the env from.

I thought you were starting it with ALT-F2 and then type in the
command.

If "env" doesn't work in that, something is broken in KDE. It's
failing to find a shell.

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On Sunday 18 May 2003 23:01, Bernd Felsche wrote:
> On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 10:20:38PM -0500, Tim Doty wrote:
> > On Sunday 18 May 2003 19:50, Bernd Felsche wrote:
> > > On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 12:33:22PM -0500, Tim Doty wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > > 3. When running PgS from the GUI after closing a requestor comes
> > > > up "Couldn't find the program 'PageStream4'" This does not occur
> > > > when running from the commandline.
> > >
> > > Try "env >/tmp/env" in the requestor and compare the contents of
> > > that to the environment at the command line.
> >
> > but the requestor just gives the error, nothing to get the env from.
>
> I thought you were starting it with ALT-F2 and then type in the
> command.
>
> If "env" doesn't work in that, something is broken in KDE. It's
> failing to find a shell.

Ah, no, I'm referring to starting it by clicking on its icon. And it runs PgS,
but then after exiting it gives the error about not finding it. What seems
strange to me is that it worked with SuSE 8.1 -- though I'd had that
installed for a while so a lot of different things had accumulated.

Tim Doty

On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 07:13:55AM -0500, Tim Doty wrote:

> Ah, no, I'm referring to starting it by clicking on its icon. And
> it runs PgS, but then after exiting it gives the error about not
> finding it. What seems strange to me is that it worked with SuSE
> 8.1 -- though I'd had that installed for a while so a lot of
> different things had accumulated.

Have you looked in .xsession-errors?

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On Monday 19 May 2003 10:30, Bernd Felsche wrote:
> On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 07:13:55AM -0500, Tim Doty wrote:
> > Ah, no, I'm referring to starting it by clicking on its icon. And
> > it runs PgS, but then after exiting it gives the error about not
> > finding it. What seems strange to me is that it worked with SuSE
> > 8.1 -- though I'd had that installed for a while so a lot of
> > different things had accumulated.
>
> Have you looked in .xsession-errors?

Its just a *lot* of unknown timer errors. Along the lines of:

err:treeview:TREEVIEW_HandleTimer got unknown timer

Tim Doty

On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 06:33:07PM -0500, Tim Doty wrote:
> On Monday 19 May 2003 10:30, Bernd Felsche wrote:
> > On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 07:13:55AM -0500, Tim Doty wrote:
> > > Ah, no, I'm referring to starting it by clicking on its icon. And
> > > it runs PgS, but then after exiting it gives the error about not
> > > finding it. What seems strange to me is that it worked with SuSE
> > > 8.1 -- though I'd had that installed for a while so a lot of
> > > different things had accumulated.
> >
> > Have you looked in .xsession-errors?
>
> Its just a *lot* of unknown timer errors. Along the lines of:
>
> err:treeview:TREEVIEW_HandleTimer got unknown timer

Sadly, that probably has nothing to do with Pagestream.

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In reply to the question on Debian compatability;

No problems there [Debian Sid with Gnome2.2/Sawfish]
(other than the other problems already reported. )

I think Debian 3.0r1 [Woody] still has Gnome1.4.

thanks,
<Ivan.

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The Open University,
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Milton Keynes.
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On Monday 19 May 2003 21:00, Bernd Felsche wrote:
[snip]
> > > Have you looked in .xsession-errors?
> >
> > Its just a *lot* of unknown timer errors. Along the lines of:
> >
> > err:treeview:TREEVIEW_HandleTimer got unknown timer
>
> Sadly, that probably has nothing to do with Pagestream.

I know. What I can't figure out is why I get the error messages now and didn't
before. Logic says that something is different in my setup and I can think of
only two things: 1) I had accumulated more "stuff" in my previous
installation, 2) having new library versions.

Deron, does PgS require gnome? I just checked under /tmp and there is an
'orbit' directory for my user, as well as ksocket and mcop.

I'm hoping that PgS Linux is going to be a gtk, not a gnome, application. If
it relies on a gnome environment, not just having relevant libraries, then I
won't be able to use it. (Not wanting to start anything, just pointing out
that I don't use gnome. The same would be true for people who refused to use
KDE if PgS Linux were using qt libraries and it became a KDE program.)

Tim Doty

Hopefully this email comes through! My internet computer has been screwed
up since late last week...

> > > > Have you looked in .xsession-errors?
> > >
> > > Its just a *lot* of unknown timer errors. Along the lines of:
> > >
> > > err:treeview:TREEVIEW_HandleTimer got unknown timer
> >
> > Sadly, that probably has nothing to do with Pagestream.
>
>I know. What I can't figure out is why I get the error messages now and
>didn't
>before. Logic says that something is different in my setup and I can think of
>only two things: 1) I had accumulated more "stuff" in my previous
>installation, 2) having new library versions.
>
>Deron, does PgS require gnome? I just checked under /tmp and there is an
>'orbit' directory for my user, as well as ksocket and mcop.

Yes and no. It uses some libraries with the word "gnome" in it, but they
are not part off "gnome" the desktop per se. For example. gnome-vfs which
is a high level wrapper that provides advanced file i/o. Things like
reading/writing inside an archive directly, using FTP access to read/write
across the Internet and more. It also supports long file lengths (ie >4gb),
but since our file format doesn't support it we don't support that yet. May
be a while for that.

The things that seems to be trouble for a few of you is that part of the
libs that we use that saves/restores configurations of menus etc. We don't
actually make those calls, it is just a "free" feature of the stuff we are
using. As I understand, we would probably be able to go a level lower if it
continues to cause problems for folks. I think the biggest problem is that
GTK2 is pretty new (approx 1 yr?) and hasn't filtered into all distros
properly yet.

>I'm hoping that PgS Linux is going to be a gtk, not a gnome, application. If
>it relies on a gnome environment, not just having relevant libraries, then I
>won't be able to use it. (Not wanting to start anything, just pointing out
>that I don't use gnome. The same would be true for people who refused to use
>KDE if PgS Linux were using qt libraries and it became a KDE program.)
>
>Tim Doty

Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

On Wednesday 21 May 2003 13:52, PageStream Support wrote:
[snip]
>
> The things that seems to be trouble for a few of you is that part of the
> libs that we use that saves/restores configurations of menus etc. We don't
> actually make those calls, it is just a "free" feature of the stuff we are
> using. As I understand, we would probably be able to go a level lower if it
> continues to cause problems for folks. I think the biggest problem is that
> GTK2 is pretty new (approx 1 yr?) and hasn't filtered into all distros
> properly yet.

GTK2 was in SuSE 8.1 and PgS Linux was not having this issue in it so I think
it is probably available in SuSE 8.2 -- I've found one library
(libgnome-2.so.0) not required by the GIMP but by PgS and installed it. If
this issue is caused by another missing library then if I knew which one I
could add it to the list of dependencies.

Tim Doty

Hi,

I finally looked into the problem again and found the answer: nfs doesn't
support file locking that gconf is trying to do without having nfslockd
running. Before upgrading to SuSE 8.2 I switched home directories to NFS, but
because I didn't try to run PgS before the installation I didn't notice the
problem.

Anyway, just letting people know about gconf/nfs home directories issues being
solved by running nfslockd on both client and server.

Tim Doty

On Wednesday 21 May 2003 17:16, Tim Doty wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 May 2003 13:52, PageStream Support wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > The things that seems to be trouble for a few of you is that part of the
> > libs that we use that saves/restores configurations of menus etc. We
> > don't actually make those calls, it is just a "free" feature of the stuff
> > we are using. As I understand, we would probably be able to go a level
> > lower if it continues to cause problems for folks. I think the biggest
> > problem is that GTK2 is pretty new (approx 1 yr?) and hasn't filtered
> > into all distros properly yet.
>
> GTK2 was in SuSE 8.1 and PgS Linux was not having this issue in it so I
> think it is probably available in SuSE 8.2 -- I've found one library
> (libgnome-2.so.0) not required by the GIMP but by PgS and installed it. If
> this issue is caused by another missing library then if I knew which one I
> could add it to the list of dependencies.
>
> Tim Doty
>
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