Hi!

Got a bunch of bugs (that is a precise measurement fixed and I'm pretty
happy with this release. I hope that it is as stable for you as it is for me.

Enjoy!

Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

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On Friday 19 September 2003 07:57, PageStream Support wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Got a bunch of bugs (that is a precise measurement fixed and I'm pretty
> happy with this release. I hope that it is as stable for you as it is for
> me.
>
> Enjoy!

I find the font drop-down menu to be really annoying: the dock (sorry, I
forget the PgS term for it) is normally at the bottom of the screen and the
font list is literally a drop-down sized for the screen rather than a pop-up.
It is difficult to select the correct font when my context consists of three
visible names in the list. Hmm... out of habit I try to get more details as I
write the email and now it is insisting on acting as a drop-up -- which is
much more desirable. However, the drop-down is the behavior it has
consistently done in the past. I dunno.

So I saved the document and closed PgS figuring that a clean start might
reproduce the behavior. PgS started fine, but now won't open the document! It
seg faults instead. So I went back to the last version and it opened fine. I
noticed that in the new release it is trying to open the font substition
requestor which it should not be -- the fonts were all converted and the
previous version of PgS recognizes that.

So I decided its ability to load documents it had created and made a new
document. Lo and behold the font drop-down menu is now acting as a drop-down
again. Argh! After moving windows arrived, trying, moving some more and
trying again it does it as drop-up. Experiment suggests that it prefers the
drop-down unless it can only display one or two items by doing so in which
case it reverts to drop-up. However this is not absolute, I have gotten it to
drop-down where it can only display one item by doing so -- proximity to the
screen's toolbar seems to come into play as well.

Anyway, I closed PgS and re-opened the document, no crash. But! it opened the
font substitution requestor. It wanted to convert arial and times new roman
-- fine, neither one is on my system. On the other hand, neither one should
have been in the test document which consisted of a single text frame and one
line of text set in the default font -- which happened to be. . . sans? I
don't have any font by that name either. Okay, change the font to something
that is in my font list. Sorry, I forget what I changed it to. Save, close
PgS, restart and reopen.

What's this? The font substitution requestor *again*. This time it wants to
convert sans to arial. At least its down to one font, but this is getting
silly as I have neither of those fonts installed. So I let it "convert" to
arial. I select the text to see what it is set as, oh yeah, Zurich Black
Extended, that's what I'd set it to. But where is the elusive sans or arial?
And where did sans come from in the first place?

Time for a new text frame. Hmm. . . what is this, sans *is* the default font.
Whatever it is it displays as some sort of roman typeface. Okay, I set the
default font in prefs to something I have, Classical Garamond. Quit and
restart. Now it wants to convert Arial to Serifa regular? Well, at least I
*have* serifa. Save, quit, start and open the document.

Ahhh. . . here we go, full circle: PgS crashes attempting to load the
document. A quick test with the previous version, the document opens fine w/o
any font requestors.

From the readme on the website I gather that the printer setup requestor
should be working. But screen, source and size are unavailable. Also, I still
think the fonts being messed are more than just being downloadable. I printed
the postscript fontlist on my printer and I am using fonts from the list, but
they all print as Courier.

I exported the same page as PDF and checked the font list in Acrobat Reader
and, for example ITC Zapf Chancery was listed as Zapf Chancery ITC. In PgS
the font list gives it correctly as ITC Zapf Chancery.

Just to keep things on an even keel, this is a pre-release version. At work
one of the three core fonts used by the university is available in OS X, but
not in Quark 6 (though it is available in earlier versions of Quark). It
looks likely that there are additional fonts not used as frequently that
Quark 6 can't see either.

(Don't blame me for them using Quark, I'm not in printing -- I just have to
support them.)

Tim Doty

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On Friday 19 September 2003 07:57, PageStream Support wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Got a bunch of bugs (that is a precise measurement fixed and I'm pretty
> happy with this release. I hope that it is as stable for you as it is for
> me.
>
> Enjoy!

You bet! Still finding bugs ;^) I tried opening another document, this one is
just a bunch of external gifs, four to a page. No text anywhere. When I
opened it the font substitution requestor pops up, wanting to convert Roar,
Times, Triumvirate and something else. Funny thing is it wants to convert
Triumvirate to Arial, which I don't even have. Well, I let it.

Then a file requestor appeared. I'm assuming this one was for missing external
graphics, but it didn't specify what it was looking for or why it was open. I
browsed to the directory and specified a graphic. PgS seg-faulted.

So I decided to see what would happen if I tried to recreate the file. New
document, place graphic, browsed to the directory selected, was identified as
a gif, selected to leave external. PgS then opened up a font substitution
requestor? And crashed with a seg-fault. The leave external option doesn't
matter, I tried again without it, same result.

BTW: cosmetic problem with the font substitution requestor, resizing doesn't
update the elements. The display of a row is only updated if it is altered.
That and the horizontal sizing is not flexible. For instance, some of my
fonts have long names and go way beyond the space allotted, overwriting the
checkmark at the end making it hard to tell if it is checked or not.

I am very happy and pleased that PgS Linux is far enough along for me to find
all these things that are broken.

Tim Doty

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>Then a file requestor appeared. I'm assuming this one was for missing
>external
>graphics, but it didn't specify what it was looking for or why it was open. I
>browsed to the directory and specified a graphic. PgS seg-faulted.

The file name should be listed! It worked for me! (the SeppalaNews screen
shots on our web site was loading a document created in Windows and is full
of external pictures).

>So I decided to see what would happen if I tried to recreate the file. New
>document, place graphic, browsed to the directory selected, was identified as
>a gif, selected to leave external. PgS then opened up a font substitution
>requestor? And crashed with a seg-fault. The leave external option doesn't
>matter, I tried again without it, same result.

?? Wow, you're having all kinds of fun with font substitution

>BTW: cosmetic problem with the font substitution requestor, resizing doesn't
>update the elements. The display of a row is only updated if it is altered.
>That and the horizontal sizing is not flexible. For instance, some of my
>fonts have long names and go way beyond the space allotted, overwriting the
>checkmark at the end making it hard to tell if it is checked or not.
>
>I am very happy and pleased that PgS Linux is far enough along for me to find
>all these things that are broken.

I'll take that as a pat on the back <grin>

>Tim Doty

Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

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On Friday 26 September 2003 20:44, PageStream Support wrote:
> >Then a file requestor appeared. I'm assuming this one was for missing
> >external
> >graphics, but it didn't specify what it was looking for or why it was
> > open. I browsed to the directory and specified a graphic. PgS
> > seg-faulted.
>
> The file name should be listed! It worked for me! (the SeppalaNews screen
> shots on our web site was loading a document created in Windows and is full
> of external pictures).

I tried this again with another document and got the same result. Load
document, browse to page with external graphic. Requestor appears, but no
name for the graphic. Cancel out, open information for the graphic object,
old path is displayed. Click to browse to the graphic file and the name is
not displayed in the file requestor.

Perhaps this is an artifact of going from an Amiga PgS document? The path is
of the form Data:Graphics/PageStream/. . .

I double checked that the PPD was selected and tried to print. It comes out,
but all text is again Courier. The graphic displays and prints as a box with
an X -- I assume because it is a tiff (IIRC that filter isn't done yet for
linux)

And more problems with the font requestor. When loading an existing document
the substitution requestor comes up. Fine, but when I select a font to
convert/display and click on the drop down it drops it down, but does not
allow me to select a font. It locks me out of the entire X windows gui. I can
click on the drop down button to try and pull it up and if I click long
enough it does so. It seems to be number of clicks as just waiting doesn't
resolve it.

Once the document is open and selecting text with the text tool, I go to the
font drop-up requestor. First time it drops down. Click on it a second time
and it drops-up. Fine, but I have more fonts then it can display at once on
the screen and it doesn't use a scrollbar (though it did when dropped down).

Tim Doty