...after fighting a bit with it I saw that some how the preferences was
set on 5% minimum and 5% maximum... therefore... but how that happen I
don't know! I haven't changed it that is one thing I know for sure.

But I can see if I can recreate the problem...

Thanks!

Rolf

ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 12:57 skrev Rolf Eric Anithason:

> ...after fighting a bit with it I saw that some how the preferences was
> set on 5% minimum and 5% maximum... therefore... but how that happen I
> don't know! I haven't changed it that is one thing I know for sure.
>
> But I can see if I can recreate the problem...

It happens every time you save Prefs. Nice to know, that I am not the
only one having this problem.

--
Mvh

Anders

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 07:11, Anders Drejer wrote:
> ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 12:57 skrev Rolf Eric Anithason:
> > ...after fighting a bit with it I saw that some how the preferences was
> > set on 5% minimum and 5% maximum... therefore... but how that happen I
> > don't know! I haven't changed it that is one thing I know for sure.
> >
> > But I can see if I can recreate the problem...
>
> It happens every time you save Prefs. Nice to know, that I am not the
> only one having this problem.

I just tried to replicate this and was unable to. Just out of curiousity, what
version of linux are you using? I'm not sure what difference it would make,
but if we're both using the latest PgS I'm trying to figure out what other
differences there could be. I'm using SuSE 8.2 with KDE, fully patched,
running on an Athlon XP.

Tim Doty

-da-Ja, men de sjove med det er hvis du går ind og retter fejle i
indstillningsfilen så sker det ikke någen forskell ved næste opstart.
Men som sagt, det er godt at høre at andre også har samme problem. Håber
det vill laves någet for at korrigere det hele.

-en-Yes, but what is amusing about it is if you try to correct the error
in the prefs file directly, it wont matter next time you start up. But
as you said, it is good to hear that I'm not the only one with the
problem. I hope that it will be corrected at one stage.

-da-Én anden ting er at hele Page Width viewen er også lidt mysko, det
er lige som et spøge som sætter igang med at flytte skermen i alle
riktninger når man vill skrolle ned eller bare flytte på fokus delen af
billedet. Ibland slæpper ikke spøgeslet gripet om skærmen så man er nødt
til at starte om, ibland så går det over til skærmdelen man vil...

-en-One other thing is that this Page Width view behavs strangely, it's
like we have a ghost that starts to move around the screen in all
directions when you want to scroll down or just move the part in focus
of the page. Sometimes the ghost release the grip of the screen, but
sometimes not and then your forced to restart the program...

-en-Hope that will be sorted out as well in future!

Med hilsen

Rolf Eric
Anders Drejer wrote:

>ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 12:57 skrev Rolf Eric Anithason:
>
>
>
>>...after fighting a bit with it I saw that some how the preferences was
>>set on 5% minimum and 5% maximum... therefore... but how that happen I
>>don't know! I haven't changed it that is one thing I know for sure.
>>
>>But I can see if I can recreate the problem...
>>
>>
>
>It happens every time you save Prefs. Nice to know, that I am not the
>only one having this problem.
>
>
>

I'm using Slackware 9 with Gnome 2.2 and I don't have the time to update
everything all the time.. and I'm in the beginning of learning the
system after been working with AmigaOS and Windows, so I must admit that
I don't 100% know how... Runing on a PIII I think...

regards,

Rolf
Tim Doty wrote:

>On Wednesday 15 October 2003 07:11, Anders Drejer wrote:
>
>
>>ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 12:57 skrev Rolf Eric Anithason:
>>
>>
>>>...after fighting a bit with it I saw that some how the preferences was
>>>set on 5% minimum and 5% maximum... therefore... but how that happen I
>>>don't know! I haven't changed it that is one thing I know for sure.
>>>
>>>But I can see if I can recreate the problem...
>>>
>>>
>>It happens every time you save Prefs. Nice to know, that I am not the
>>only one having this problem.
>>
>>
>
>I just tried to replicate this and was unable to. Just out of curiousity, what
>version of linux are you using? I'm not sure what difference it would make,
>but if we're both using the latest PgS I'm trying to figure out what other
>differences there could be. I'm using SuSE 8.2 with KDE, fully patched,
>running on an Athlon XP.
>
>Tim Doty
>
>
>
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ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 14:42 skrev Tim Doty:

> On Wednesday 15 October 2003 07:11, Anders Drejer wrote:
> > ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 12:57 skrev Rolf Eric Anithason:
> > > ...after fighting a bit with it I saw that some how the preferences was
> > > set on 5% minimum and 5% maximum... therefore... but how that happen I
> > > don't know! I haven't changed it that is one thing I know for sure.
> > >
> > > But I can see if I can recreate the problem...
> >
> > It happens every time you save Prefs. Nice to know, that I am not the
> > only one having this problem.
>
> I just tried to replicate this and was unable to. Just out of curiousity, what
> version of linux are you using? I'm not sure what difference it would make,
> but if we're both using the latest PgS I'm trying to figure out what other
> differences there could be. I'm using SuSE 8.2 with KDE, fully patched,
> running on an Athlon XP.

I am using Pagestream 4.1.5.8 (should be the latest), but the problem
has been there since day one. I using Mandrake 9.1 running on a 1200Mhz
AMD Duron processor.
--
Mvh

Anders

ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 15:14 skrev Anders Drejer:
> ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 14:42 skrev Tim Doty:
>
> > On Wednesday 15 October 2003 07:11, Anders Drejer wrote:
> > > ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 12:57 skrev Rolf Eric Anithason:
> > > > ...after fighting a bit with it I saw that some how the preferences was
> > > > set on 5% minimum and 5% maximum... therefore... but how that happen I
> > > > don't know! I haven't changed it that is one thing I know for sure.
> > > >
> > > > But I can see if I can recreate the problem...
> > >
> > > It happens every time you save Prefs. Nice to know, that I am not the
> > > only one having this problem.
> >
> > I just tried to replicate this and was unable to. Just out of curiousity, what
> > version of linux are you using? I'm not sure what difference it would make,
> > but if we're both using the latest PgS I'm trying to figure out what other
> > differences there could be. I'm using SuSE 8.2 with KDE, fully patched,
> > running on an Athlon XP.
>
> I am using Pagestream 4.1.5.8 (should be the latest), but the problem
> has been there since day one. I using Mandrake 9.1 running on a 1200Mhz
> AMD Duron processor.

And using KDE 3.1. Both Mandrake and KDE is fully updated using the
Mandrake Control Center Update facility.

--
Mvh

Anders

Sounds like our systems are fairly similar. Your's being Mandrake there are
likely some differences in the packages, but I wouldn't expect much. Just to
make sure we're talking about exactly the same thing: If you save preferences
it sets the maximum view to 5%.

Does the change occur immediately? Or on reloading PgS? Are you able to change
the maximum view value to anything else for any length of time?

Tim Doty

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 08:16, Anders Drejer wrote:
> ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 15:14 skrev Anders Drejer:
> > ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 14:42 skrev Tim Doty:
> > > On Wednesday 15 October 2003 07:11, Anders Drejer wrote:
> > > > ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 12:57 skrev Rolf Eric Anithason:
> > > > > ...after fighting a bit with it I saw that some how the preferences
> > > > > was set on 5% minimum and 5% maximum... therefore... but how that
> > > > > happen I don't know! I haven't changed it that is one thing I know
> > > > > for sure.
> > > > >
> > > > > But I can see if I can recreate the problem...
> > > >
> > > > It happens every time you save Prefs. Nice to know, that I am not the
> > > > only one having this problem.
> > >
> > > I just tried to replicate this and was unable to. Just out of
> > > curiousity, what version of linux are you using? I'm not sure what
> > > difference it would make, but if we're both using the latest PgS I'm
> > > trying to figure out what other differences there could be. I'm using
> > > SuSE 8.2 with KDE, fully patched, running on an Athlon XP.
> >
> > I am using Pagestream 4.1.5.8 (should be the latest), but the problem
> > has been there since day one. I using Mandrake 9.1 running on a 1200Mhz
> > AMD Duron processor.
>
> And using KDE 3.1. Both Mandrake and KDE is fully updated using the
> Mandrake Control Center Update facility.

> > > ...after fighting a bit with it I saw that some how the preferences was
> > > set on 5% minimum and 5% maximum... therefore... but how that happen I
> > > don't know! I haven't changed it that is one thing I know for sure.
> > >
> > > But I can see if I can recreate the problem...
> >
> > It happens every time you save Prefs. Nice to know, that I am not the
> > only one having this problem.
>
>I just tried to replicate this and was unable to. Just out of curiousity,
>what
>version of linux are you using? I'm not sure what difference it would make,
>but if we're both using the latest PgS I'm trying to figure out what other
>differences there could be. I'm using SuSE 8.2 with KDE, fully patched,
>running on an Athlon XP.

Just to add to the mix, I'm using Mandrake 9.0 with KDE and GNOME, running
on an Athlon. Haven't updated anything in almost a year (afraid to have to
many modern dependencies.) No problems here either. Doubt it is the Athlon
but anything is possible

>Tim Doty

Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

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Could you be more specific? What steps do you take to reproduce this behaviour?

>One other thing is that this Page Width view behavs strangely, it's
>like we have a ghost that starts to move around the screen in all
>directions when you want to scroll down or just move the part in focus
>of the page. Sometimes the ghost release the grip of the screen, but
>sometimes not and then your forced to restart the program...

Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

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ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 19:34 skrev Tim Doty:
> Sounds like our systems are fairly similar. Your's being Mandrake there are
> likely some differences in the packages, but I wouldn't expect much. Just to
> make sure we're talking about exactly the same thing: If you save preferences
> it sets the maximum view to 5%.
>
> Does the change occur immediately? Or on reloading PgS? Are you able to change
> the maximum view value to anything else for any length of time?

It only occur after a reload. Then I can change the max view from 5% to
3000% and everything is OK if I start a new document. But after a
restart of PGS both max and min view is set to 5%

--
Mvh

Anders

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 14:57, Anders Drejer wrote:
> ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 19:34 skrev Tim Doty:
> > Sounds like our systems are fairly similar. Your's being Mandrake there
> > are likely some differences in the packages, but I wouldn't expect much.
> > Just to make sure we're talking about exactly the same thing: If you save
> > preferences it sets the maximum view to 5%.
> >
> > Does the change occur immediately? Or on reloading PgS? Are you able to
> > change the maximum view value to anything else for any length of time?
>
> It only occur after a reload. Then I can change the max view from 5% to
> 3000% and everything is OK if I start a new document. But after a
> restart of PGS both max and min view is set to 5%

And I still can't reproduce it. The nastiest bugs are the inconsistent ones...

Tim Doty

torsdagen den 16 oktober 2003 00.51 skrev Tim Doty:
> On Wednesday 15 October 2003 14:57, Anders Drejer wrote:
> > ons, 2003-10-15 kl. 19:34 skrev Tim Doty:
> > > Sounds like our systems are fairly similar. Your's being
> > > Mandrake there are likely some differences in the packages, but
> > > I wouldn't expect much. Just to make sure we're talking about
> > > exactly the same thing: If you save preferences it sets the
> > > maximum view to 5%.
> > >
> > > Does the change occur immediately? Or on reloading PgS? Are you
> > > able to change the maximum view value to anything else for any
> > > length of time?
> >
> > It only occur after a reload. Then I can change the max view from
> > 5% to 3000% and everything is OK if I start a new document. But
> > after a restart of PGS both max and min view is set to 5%
>
> And I still can't reproduce it. The nastiest bugs are the
> inconsistent ones...

For me it's inconsistent in a very consistent way . I have this
problem as well. After installing version h I tried again but it was
still 5% and had to be changed in prefs after every program start! So
I deleted my ~.PageStream4/PageStream4.prefs to give this version a
clean start. Now it worked! I could start PS several times and it
came up with "full page" and in prefs mag from 5% to 3000% every
time.

So I went ahead and started to set my prefs as wanted. I also set my
"New Document" to "A4 Letter" and the "Margin Guides" as desired
together with "Name" to Namnlöst (Swedish for untitled). As in
earlier versions this is NOT remembered during next start but comes
up as "untitled" "Custom" "Page With 21,cm" "Height 0,cm" and wrong
margins as well.

Furthermore, after that I'm back to the 5% problem as well. When
looking in ~.PageStream4/PageStream4.prefs I see:
SETVIEWDEFAULTS SCALE FULLPAGE SCALERANGE 5 % 3000 % GRID SHOW
SNAPTOGRID ON
so there has to be a parsing error when PS starts.

Best regards,
Jan
--
Jan Simonson

PageStream Support wrote:
>>I just tried to replicate this and was unable to. Just out of curiousity,
>>what
>>version of linux are you using? I'm not sure what difference it would make,
>>but if we're both using the latest PgS I'm trying to figure out what other
>>differences there could be. I'm using SuSE 8.2 with KDE, fully patched,
>>running on an Athlon XP.
>
>
> Just to add to the mix, I'm using Mandrake 9.0 with KDE and GNOME, running
> on an Athlon. Haven't updated anything in almost a year (afraid to have to
> many modern dependencies.) No problems here either. Doubt it is the Athlon
> but anything is possible
>

Just to add even more variety; Debian Sid on an AthlonXP, Gnome 2.2.

Lots of things work with release 'h', so I can at last see what everyone
has been talking about - text at last!
(I've made no updates to the system since the previous versions, so
you've fixed it, whatever it was)

Couple of comments:
Text Wrapping doesn't work at all, and what do the numbered buttons
under the wrapping options do? - if it's the same as the wrap options,
are they really necesary?

When choosing a background or line colour, the pallet/preview is aways
black - the actual fill is OK.

Can't setup printing at all. We use a centralised CUPS server, over the
network. I can't see any options for network printing (haven't had time
to look too closely). CUPS deals with all of this.

Still can't see anything when you right click an icon in the toolbar
thingy (can't remember what it was called - usually on the left of the
screen! ) - other than a thick line for each option is supposed to be.

Other than that it's looking good.

keep up the good work,
<Ivan.

>Furthermore, after that I'm back to the 5% problem as well. When
>looking in ~.PageStream4/PageStream4.prefs I see:
>SETVIEWDEFAULTS SCALE FULLPAGE SCALERANGE 5 % 3000 % GRID SHOW
>SNAPTOGRID ON
>so there has to be a parsing error when PS starts.

Thanks for the report! I can see from this that there is an improper space
between the 5 and the %. So it would be interpreted as 5 and 0% (and then
clamped to between 5 and 3000%!)

Sounds like someone has a bad printf routine going on! This would be part
of libc! I'll see what I can do to prevent this problem on my end. I bet
that is the same problem with the other pref items. Can you email me your
pref file after you try and set the default document size?

At least this is something I can fix easy enough! (even if it is a strange
one!)

>Best regards,
>Jan
>--
>Jan Simonson

Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

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Here is mine. I started PageStream, I changed the scaling, and pushed
save, after that I pushed the new icon and defined A4 and pushed
remember, and then OK and now PageStream is in the background and I'm
sending the prefs to you...

And now when I click the mouse pointer just under the square in the
right side of the window open with the document, the square symbolies
the area of the pasteboard in focus. The square jumped down one square
size but the page in the window didn't jump with, it started to move
slowly towards the same direction as you "came" from and the square I
just moved with the mouse click is moving slowly backwards as well. And
after a little while the screen is updated and you can read everything
again. It's hard do explain, is it possible to record a video clip so
you can see yourself how it moves funny and how the screen behaivs...

Good luck!

With regards,

Rolf
PageStream Support wrote:

>>Furthermore, after that I'm back to the 5% problem as well. When
>>looking in ~.PageStream4/PageStream4.prefs I see:
>>SETVIEWDEFAULTS SCALE FULLPAGE SCALERANGE 5 % 3000 % GRID SHOW
>>SNAPTOGRID ON
>>so there has to be a parsing error when PS starts.
>>
>>
>
>Thanks for the report! I can see from this that there is an improper space
>between the 5 and the %. So it would be interpreted as 5 and 0% (and then
>clamped to between 5 and 3000%!)
>
>Sounds like someone has a bad printf routine going on! This would be part
>of libc! I'll see what I can do to prevent this problem on my end. I bet
>that is the same problem with the other pref items. Can you email me your
>pref file after you try and set the default document size?
>
>At least this is something I can fix easy enough! (even if it is a strange
>one!)
>
>
>
>>Best regards,
>>Jan
>>--
>>Jan Simonson
>>
>>
>
>
>Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
>Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
>PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows
>
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----------

PREFERENCE FILE
USERNAME "Rolf Eric Anithason"
USERCOMPANY "rolf eric"
USERREGNUM 600009
USERPASSWORD a9ikzi7v2
SETUNDOLEVELS 4
SETREVISIONTRACKING OFF
SETBACKUP AUTOSAVE OFF AUTOBACKUP ON COUNT 3 PATH Documents/Backups
SETSMART DASHES ON BULLETS ON SINGLEQUOTES ON DOUBLEQUOTES ON
CHARACTERSET UTF8
SETFONT "Luxi Sans Regular"
SETTYPESIZE 12 pt
SETTYPEWIDTH 100 %
SETLANGUAGE Svenska
SETPARAGRAPHSTYLE
SETCHARACTERSTYLE
SETALIGNMENT LEFT
SETBOLD OFF
SETITALIC OFF
SETUNDERLINE OFF
SETOUTLINE OFF
SETREVERSE OFF
SETSHADOW OFF
SETSMALLCAPS OFF
SETSCRIPT OFF
SETTRACKTABLE NORMAL
SETTRACKING 0 %
SETLASTLINEFLUSH 0 mm
SETTRACKRANGE -10 % 0 % 0 % 0 % 0 % 0 %
SETLEADING FIXED 12 pt MAINTAIN ON
SETBASELINELEADING RELATIVE 80 %
SETINDENT NONE
SETFIRSTLINE NONE
SETPARAGRAPHLEADING BEFORE NONE AFTER NONE
SETRULEABOVE OFF
SETRULEBELOW OFF
SETNUMBERED OFF
SETBULLET OFF
SETDROPCAP OFF
SETTABRULER
SETDEFAULTTABSTOP 0 09mm
SETHYPHENATION OFF
SETHYPHENLANGUAGE DEFAULT DATA 6 3 2 1
SETKERNING ON KERNABOVE 4 pt
SETLIGATURE ON ANY -20 % 0 %
SETHANGING ON
SETOPTICAL ON
SETMEASUREMENTS COORDINATE MILLIMETERS SAMEAS RELATIVE SAMEAS TEXT POINTS FROM PAGE
SETDOUBLECLICK REQUESTER LINEFILL
SETDUPLICATEDEFAULTS 0 mm 0 mm
SETNUDGEDEFAULTS 0 mm
SETLIVEUPDATE SCROLL OFF DRAG OFF
SETVIEWDEFAULTS SCALE FULLPAGEWIDTH SCALERANGE 5 % 400 % GRID SHOW SNAPTOGRID ON DISPLAYGRID INBACK GUIDES SHOW SNAPTOGUIDES ON DISPLAYGUIDES INBACK RULER SHOW PICTURES SHOW DRAWINGS SHOW OUTLINE SHOW TEXTLINKS HIDE INVISIBLES HIDE PAGECOLOR 255 255 255 PAGEBORDERCOLOR 0 0 0 PAGESHADOWCOLOR 170 170 170 PASTEBOARDCOLOR 230 230 230 GRIDCOLOR 0 0 0 PAGEGUIDECOLOR 0 255 255 RULERGUIDECOLOR 255 0 255
SETAUTOCOLUMNS OFF
FILEFILTER TRUE
SETPASTEINCENTER ON
SELECTONPASTE ON
SETDOCUMENTPATH Documents
SETTEXTPATH Text
SETGRAPHICPATH Graphics
SETSCRIPTPATH Scripts
SETSCRATCHPATH Documents/Backups
SETPDFPATH Documents
SETMAILMERGEPATH Text
SETPRINTPATH Documents
MAINTOOLBOX SHOW AT 5 19 VERTICAL
SETMAGNIFYINCREMENT 200 % DRAGZOOM CORNER
SETCOLUMNDEFAULTS OPAQUE GUTTER 0 mm
SETBOXDEFAULTS CORNER 0 mm
SETARCDEFAULTS ANGLES 90 ° 0 °
SETPOLYGONDEFAULTS SIDES 5 OFFSETANGLE 0 ° DEFLECTION 40 % ANGLEDEFLECTION 50 %
TOOLBAR HIDE AT -1 -1
SETTOOLBAR NEW OPEN SAVEDOC PRINT SPACE CUT COPY PASTE DELETE SPACE UNDO REDO SPACE LINKTEXT BREAKTEXTROUTING SPACE INDENTLEFT INDENTRIGHT HANGINGINDENT SPACE EXECUTE PREFERENCES SPACE LINEFILL INFORMATION
RECENTFILES "file:///home/rolf/reLÃ¥da/rolf eric/reBref.pgs" "file:///home/rolf/xp/Mina dokument/pgs/reBref/reBref.pgs"
EDITPALETTE SHOW AT 42 67 COLLAPSED OFF
COLORPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
STYLEPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
LAYERPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
SCRIPTPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
PAGEPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
DOCUMENTPALETTE HIDE AT -2 -2 SIZE -1 -1 COLLAPSED OFF
SETWINDOWDEFAULTS AT 48 70 SIZE 848 528
SETDIMENSIONS 210,mm 297,mm SINGLE PORTRAIT
SETMARGINGUIDES 12,mm 12,mm 25,mm 25,mm
SETCOLUMNGUIDES 2 6,mm

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>Couple of comments:
>Text Wrapping doesn't work at all, and what do the numbered buttons
>under the wrapping options do? - if it's the same as the wrap options,
>are they really necesary?

Those numbers should be the keyboard shortcuts to the buttons.

>When choosing a background or line colour, the pallet/preview is aways
>black - the actual fill is OK.

Thanks.

>Can't setup printing at all. We use a centralised CUPS server, over the
>network. I can't see any options for network printing (haven't had time
>to look too closely). CUPS deals with all of this.

?? We use CUPS for printing. Right now, all you need to do is select the
PPD for your CUPS printer, and then choose the paper options (like paper
size, etc). It will automatically route the output to the selected CUPS
driver. Basically, we are using our previous postscript printer driver
code, but routing to the selected cups device. Eventually we will integrate
selecting the various defined cups printers into a popup in print setup,
and you wont have to rechoose the PPD because CUPS already has the PPD
associated with the printer. I am at this time unsure if you will have any
options in print setup other then choosing the printer. Depends on how much
is selected in CUPS.

>Still can't see anything when you right click an icon in the toolbar
>thingy (can't remember what it was called - usually on the left of the
>screen! ) - other than a thick line for each option is supposed to be.

I assume you mean the toolbox, and you should just be able to left click on
them to select them. Flyouts are not enabled yet. I am still trying to
figure out if right clicking is the proper thing to do to show the various
tool options, or just left click and hold like on the Mac, Windows and
Amiga

Any input?

>Other than that it's looking good.
>
>keep up the good work,
> <Ivan.

Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

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tor, 2003-10-16 kl. 22:29 skrev PageStream Support:

> >Can't setup printing at all. We use a centralised CUPS server, over the
> >network. I can't see any options for network printing (haven't had time
> >to look too closely). CUPS deals with all of this.
>
> ?? We use CUPS for printing. Right now, all you need to do is select the
> PPD for your CUPS printer, and then choose the paper options (like paper
> size, etc). It will automatically route the output to the selected CUPS
> driver. Basically, we are using our previous postscript printer driver
> code, but routing to the selected cups device. Eventually we will integrate
> selecting the various defined cups printers into a popup in print setup,
> and you wont have to rechoose the PPD because CUPS already has the PPD
> associated with the printer. I am at this time unsure if you will have any
> options in print setup other then choosing the printer. Depends on how much
> is selected in CUPS.

When I select the ppd file for my postscript printer, and select the
paper size and press the print bottom, it seems that my printer receive
data for one or two seconds, but nothing happens.

> Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
> Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
> PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

--
Mvh

Anders

PageStream Support wrote:
>>Couple of comments:
>>Text Wrapping doesn't work at all, and what do the numbered buttons
>>under the wrapping options do? - if it's the same as the wrap options,
>>are they really necesary?
>
> Those numbers should be the keyboard shortcuts to the buttons.
Good idea. Perhaps a small number (underlined) in the graphic box would
reduce the need for two buttons with the same function.

>
>>Can't setup printing at all. We use a centralised CUPS server, over the
>>network. I can't see any options for network printing (haven't had time
>>to look too closely). CUPS deals with all of this.
>
>
> ?? We use CUPS for printing. Right now, all you need to do is select the
> PPD for your CUPS printer, and then choose the paper options (like paper
> size, etc). It will automatically route the output to the selected CUPS
> driver. Basically, we are using our previous postscript printer driver
> code, but routing to the selected cups device. Eventually we will integrate
> selecting the various defined cups printers into a popup in print setup,
> and you wont have to rechoose the PPD because CUPS already has the PPD
> associated with the printer. I am at this time unsure if you will have any
> options in print setup other then choosing the printer. Depends on how much
> is selected in CUPS.
That sounds better. I originally deleted my expanded comments on the
print problems, but here goes ...

our printers are identified by location. Sometimes they are replaced
with a totally different make/model/etc but as CUPS takes care of all of
this I don't need to know what type of printer it is. All I need to know
is whether is can print colour and which tray I can pick my printing up
from. CUPS allows me to select which printer (and it's print options)
from the popup.
There's no point in me selecting a PPD as the printer might be changed -
tech support aren't going to come and tell me each time.

So I tried just selecting a PPD (as far as I know we only have 1 HP
Colour LazerJet) and pressing print (most of our printers don't have a
listed PPD in your file structure - but they're nearly all postscript
anyway). - nothing came out of the printer, so it didn't match the PPD
to the printer. So my beautiful 'This is a test page' print job could
have come out anywhere, if at all.
If I just selected a PPD where we have lots of identical printers, how
would I know which printer, or even which building, it would come out at?

>
>
>>Still can't see anything when you right click an icon in the toolbar
>>thingy (can't remember what it was called - usually on the left of the
>>screen! ) - other than a thick line for each option is supposed to be.
>
> I assume you mean the toolbox, and you should just be able to left click on
> them to select them. Flyouts are not enabled yet. I am still trying to
> figure out if right clicking is the proper thing to do to show the various
> tool options, or just left click and hold like on the Mac, Windows and
> Amiga
>
> Any input?
Either, following standard practice may be easier for people to get to
grips with.
But it can be difficult getting the delay time correct - too long and
the user gets impatient, -too short and the popup appears just as you've
move the mouse and you've just selected the wrong tool.

I seem to remember using a tiny arrow/triangle in the bottom right of
toolbox buttons if you wanted the flyout to open. That just required the
use of a single left-click to open.

thanks again,
<Ivan.

As I mentioned, the need to choose the PPD will go away, and the ability to
choose from a list of installed CUPS printers will come.

>our printers are identified by location. Sometimes they are replaced
>with a totally different make/model/etc but as CUPS takes care of all of
>this I don't need to know what type of printer it is. All I need to know
>is whether is can print colour and which tray I can pick my printing up
>from. CUPS allows me to select which printer (and it's print options)
>from the popup.
>There's no point in me selecting a PPD as the printer might be changed -
>tech support aren't going to come and tell me each time.
>
>So I tried just selecting a PPD (as far as I know we only have 1 HP
>Colour LazerJet) and pressing print (most of our printers don't have a
>listed PPD in your file structure - but they're nearly all postscript
>anyway). - nothing came out of the printer, so it didn't match the PPD
>to the printer. So my beautiful 'This is a test page' print job could
>have come out anywhere, if at all.
>If I just selected a PPD where we have lots of identical printers, how
>would I know which printer, or even which building, it would come out at?

Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

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>When I select the ppd file for my postscript printer, and select the
>paper size and press the print bottom, it seems that my printer receive
>data for one or two seconds, but nothing happens.

Did you try this with just a single box on the page, no text? Someone else
reported a problem with some Type1 fonts so this could be a second problem.
Bitmaps should be ok also. But as always, the simple case is the best to
start with!

>Anders

Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

PageStream Support wrote:
> As I mentioned, the need to choose the PPD will go away, and the ability to
> choose from a list of installed CUPS printers will come.
>
That will make life so much easier.

looking forward to it,

thanks,
<Ivan.

fre, 2003-10-17 kl. 15:30 skrev PageStream Support:

> >When I select the ppd file for my postscript printer, and select the
> >paper size and press the print bottom, it seems that my printer receive
> >data for one or two seconds, but nothing happens.
>
> Did you try this with just a single box on the page, no text? Someone else
> reported a problem with some Type1 fonts so this could be a second problem.
> Bitmaps should be ok also. But as always, the simple case is the best to
> start with!

Still not able to print anything (A4 page with just one box).

--
Mvh

Anders

Uz.ytkownik Anders Drejer napisa?:

>fre, 2003-10-17 kl. 15:30 skrev PageStream Support:
>
>
>
>>>When I select the ppd file for my postscript printer, and select the
>>>paper size and press the print bottom, it seems that my printer receive
>>>data for one or two seconds, but nothing happens.
>>>
>>>
>>Did you try this with just a single box on the page, no text? Someone else
>>reported a problem with some Type1 fonts so this could be a second problem.
>>Bitmaps should be ok also. But as always, the simple case is the best to
>>start with!
>>
>>
>
>
>Still not able to print anything (A4 page with just one box).
>
>
For me too
(Debian woody+sid, KDE, CUPS)

Bertold

On Friday 17 October 2003 10:38, Anders Drejer wrote:
> fre, 2003-10-17 kl. 15:30 skrev PageStream Support:
> > >When I select the ppd file for my postscript printer, and select the
> > >paper size and press the print bottom, it seems that my printer receive
> > >data for one or two seconds, but nothing happens.
> >
> > Did you try this with just a single box on the page, no text? Someone
> > else reported a problem with some Type1 fonts so this could be a second
> > problem. Bitmaps should be ok also. But as always, the simple case is the
> > best to start with!
>
> Still not able to print anything (A4 page with just one box).

I recently had this problem and when I did Deron's test it worked for me and
for everything else, too. The thing is I'd just reinstalled the system and I
*think* what happened is I was careless when I setup CUPS.

I have a print server which is running CUPS server software. SuSE at least
installs both client and server software by default and when I had
reinstalled that was the case. For some reason the printer defined for the
local queue (which just pointed to the print server) was not named lp. I
don't recall anymore what name it had.

Printing worked for the applications I normally print with, but not PgS. As it
turned out command line printing (e.g., lpr test.ps) did not work either.
When I discovered/realized the mishap with the CUPS installation I setup CUPS
as client only and that fixed everything.

Although I'm not entirely sure I believe that the queue being called something
other than lp caused the failure. Just an idea for you to check.

Tim Doty