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2006-03-14 07:08:57 CT | #1 |
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Nick Cook From: United States Registered: 2006-03-06 Posts: 33 |
Has anybody else found this bugette? Running Debian "Etch" with KDE 3.5 - Nick - -- Nick -- |
2006-03-14 11:32:29 CT | #2 |
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Tim Doty From: United States Registered: 2006-02-06 Posts: 2939 |
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 09:08 am, Nick Cook wrote: You're right. That must've just gotten in the latest version because I use Tim Doty |
2006-03-14 21:35:34 CT | #3 |
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O. Bertold From: Poland Registered: 2006-02-18 Posts: 40 |
Tim Doty wrote: >On Tuesday 14 March 2006 09:08 am, Nick Cook wrote: |
2006-03-14 17:04:28 CT | #4 |
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Mike Wilson From: Canada Registered: 2006-02-17 Posts: 74 |
Oh, my. I just went to look over PGS-Linux 'Help', trying to see why the That said, I'm well aware that both Deron and Dan have more than |
2006-03-14 18:13:02 CT | #5 |
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Tim Doty From: United States Registered: 2006-02-06 Posts: 2939 |
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 05:04 pm, Michael R. Wilson wrote: Actually, the help system documentation is so out of date and inaccurate it > That said, I'm well aware that both Deron and Dan have more than Yes, there has been some talk. A major problem for any user generated The good news is that a documentation wiki is being setup. The current When will this happen? I don't know, but that is one (major) part of the Tim Doty |
2006-03-14 18:50:53 CT | #6 |
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Deron Kazmaier From: United States Registered: 2006-01-29 Posts: 4639 |
Actually, there is very little different between the platforms, but Linux >That said, I'm well aware that both Deron and Dan have more than Actually, we are just now getting the online docs up and include the >-- That is actually a very new feature, and is now pretty much the same on all So what is your question? Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org |
2006-03-14 11:44:20 CT | #7 |
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Deron Kazmaier From: United States Registered: 2006-01-29 Posts: 4639 |
Thanks for the report! Tim had reported it and filed a bug in bugzilla a few days ago. I'll try >Running Debian "Etch" with KDE 3.5
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2006-03-15 10:09:56 CT | #8 |
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Mike Wilson From: Canada Registered: 2006-02-17 Posts: 74 |
PageStream Support wrote: > The linux system fonts are Likewise PGS' old .DMF/.FM vector fonts, correct? > So what is your question? After reading through your paragraph above, I guess my question is: why Back on *AmigaOS*, which is where my expectations were formed, PGS was |
2006-03-15 10:35:04 CT | #9 |
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Mike Wilson From: Canada Registered: 2006-02-17 Posts: 74 |
PageStream Support wrote: > Actually, there is very little different between the platforms, but Linux Too true. However, I also noted a mish-mosh of screen shots and > Installation is covered in the Good idea. However, it might be well to modify "readme.linux" so it's MW>Has there been any > Actually, we are just now getting the online docs up and include the As a retired university prof with decades of experience in editing > The goal would be to have no comments/ammendmends, but everything Definitely the way to go. Definitely no small task, either, and by |
2006-03-15 17:45:33 CT | #10 |
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Tim Doty From: United States Registered: 2006-02-06 Posts: 2939 |
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 10:35 am, Michael R. Wilson wrote: It's quite a bit of work to get and maintain screenshots. Zealots of each > > Installation is covered in the It isn't just Ubuntu. There's the LSB, but *nobody* adheres to it completely. Most people are simple users and having a self-contained directory that they Tim Doty |
2006-03-15 17:54:50 CT | #11 |
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Tim Doty From: United States Registered: 2006-02-06 Posts: 2939 |
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 10:09 am, Michael R. Wilson wrote: I'm sorry I forgot to address your font preferences question initially. The For serious DTP this has been handled through third party software. Extensis If you get a quark document that has fonts not installed on your system those Again, not absolutely necessary, but useful. And until recently adding fonts > Back on *AmigaOS*, which is where my expectations were formed, PGS was In fact on the Amiga PgS doesn't even use the system fonts. Meaning, they Tim Doty |
2006-03-15 18:41:47 CT | #12 |
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Mike Wilson From: Canada Registered: 2006-02-17 Posts: 74 |
Tim Doty wrote: [snip] > I'm sorry I forgot to address your font preferences question initially. The Now I'm *really* confused. The reply I had from Deron (to whom I was |
2006-03-15 19:02:40 CT | #13 |
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Tim Doty From: United States Registered: 2006-02-06 Posts: 2939 |
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 06:41 pm, Michael R. Wilson wrote: There is *no* linux font management software. None. Font management may not be Font management is necessary for reasonable handling of large quantities of I'm a hobbyist when it comes to DTP, but I like having the PgS font Tim Doty |
2006-03-15 20:16:17 CT | #14 |
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Mike Wilson From: Canada Registered: 2006-02-17 Posts: 74 |
Tim Doty wrote: > There is *no* linux font management software. None. Font management may not be Whoa, there. You have my position out by 180 degrees. I'm neither [snip] > I'm a hobbyist when it comes to DTP, but I like having the PgS font Again, it seems my messages are not getting through clearly. As Deron Delightful, if true: Ubuntu, because it is intended for world-wide |
2006-03-15 21:57:32 CT | #15 |
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Tim Doty From: United States Registered: 2006-02-06 Posts: 2939 |
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 08:16 pm, Michael R. Wilson wrote: Sorry I mistook you. [snip] I have fonts added through the font preferences menu. Being able to subtract > Delightful, if true: Ubuntu, because it is intended for world-wide As I mentioned the current ability is limited and clumsy from a font 1. System fonts. Currently we're stuck with them. 2. Fonts added through PgS. These can be enabled/disabled through the font One less-than-ideal-but-strictly-cosmetic issue is that a directory when added Tim Doty |
2006-03-15 22:14:43 CT | #16 |
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Mike Wilson From: Canada Registered: 2006-02-17 Posts: 74 |
Tim Doty wrote: > I have fonts added through the font preferences menu. Being able to subtract Now we're getting somewhere. When *I* try to add font directories with > As I mentioned the current ability is limited and clumsy from a font Oh, bother. > 2. Fonts added through PgS. These can be enabled/disabled through the font Apparently it works only for some users, and I ain't one of 'em. 8-( > One less-than-ideal-but-strictly-cosmetic issue is that a directory when added Or it could be worse: you may now be in the boat with me? Hmmm. There |
2006-03-15 20:06:34 CT | #17 |
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Deron Kazmaier From: United States Registered: 2006-01-29 Posts: 4639 |
PageStream Linux does not support the old DMF/FM fonts (yet. If we add > > So what is your question? So you can manage fonts that you might not have in your main linux >That is, unless it ties to code that can add to the OS's index of fonts Not a chance! The linux system doesn't really seem to like dynamically >Back on *AmigaOS*, which is where my expectations were formed, PGS was Yes, and the same here on Linux. Maybe I just don't understand what you are >Mike Wilson
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2006-03-15 23:54:58 CT | #18 |
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Deron Kazmaier From: United States Registered: 2006-01-29 Posts: 4639 |
I think we are talking past each other. When PageStream Linux runs, it loads all the fonts from the "system" font When you add a new font path in the PageStream font prefs, it adds those Deron >Mike Wilson
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2006-03-16 07:02:02 CT | #19 |
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Tim Doty From: United States Registered: 2006-02-06 Posts: 2939 |
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 10:14 pm, Michael R. Wilson wrote: I deleted all my font dirs added in PgS, restarted PgS and verified that they Menu: File/System Preferences/Fonts... Back to the requester I browse to the font directory I want, double click on I create a new document, select the text tool, click to create a frameless I went through and added back in all the font dirs I want. Save. Restart PgS. /home/tim/fonts/Railog Would both be present. I was pretty sure this was just because I'd started > > As I mentioned the current ability is limited and clumsy from a font Well, Deron has heard both of us on the subject then. What I would like would be to have a tri-state check box for each listed Additional capabilities that would be good. 1. Individual font activation 2. Automatic font activation 3. Script handling by state 4. Script handling by font dir 5. Script call to get the list of font dirs > > 2. Fonts added through PgS. These can be enabled/disabled through the Could you be more specific? As noted above it works here. Hopefully we can get Tim Doty |
2006-03-16 10:43:51 CT | #20 |
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Mike Wilson From: Canada Registered: 2006-02-17 Posts: 74 |
Tim Doty wrote: > I deleted all my font dirs added in PgS, restarted PgS and verified that they [snip] Thanks for going to all that bother. I'm glad that there hasn't been an TD>>1. System fonts. Currently we're stuck with them. MW> Oh, bother. TD> Well, Deron has heard both of us on the subject then. Could be a while before he finds a reliable way to make fontconfig do > What I would like would be to have a tri-state check box for each listed [snip] Whew! Those capabilities would put any other graphics s/w I'm aware of |
2006-03-16 10:44:11 CT | #21 |
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Mike Wilson From: Canada Registered: 2006-02-17 Posts: 74 |
PageStream Support wrote: > I think we are talking past each other. Yep. Tim Doty and I seem to be having the same problem. > When PageStream Linux runs, it loads all the fonts from the "system" font And there's the root of our misunderstanding: when I tried to add > When you add a new font path in the PageStream font prefs, it adds those That's the behaviour I would expect. > The changes you make in the PageStream font prefs only changes the fonts If only. 8-( |
2006-03-16 11:26:51 CT | #22 |
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Tim Doty From: United States Registered: 2006-02-06 Posts: 2939 |
On Thursday 16 March 2006 10:43 am, Michael R. Wilson wrote: Well, I have daily incremental backups of my home directory and long term > TD>>1. System fonts. Currently we're stuck with them. I'm reasonably certain he's not using fontconfig for his added fonts. If you > > What I would like would be to have a tri-state check box for each listed Well, I've no idea if/when Deron will implement, but as this font management Tim Doty |
2006-03-16 12:30:12 CT | #23 |
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Mike Wilson From: Canada Registered: 2006-02-17 Posts: 74 |
Tim Doty wrote: [snip] > I'm reasonably certain he's not using fontconfig for his added fonts. No, but with respect to the system font list there's no avoiding it. > If you add them in PgS they are available only for PgS. Fine by me: that's the only place I really want to use most of them. > Trying to write a font Witness the 'insane nightmare' of font handling that is the current > Well, I've no idea if/when Deron will implement, but as this font management And it does seem to be close: wouldn't you know it, after the initial |
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