Thanks for responding. I'll try and work wiht the "marks" feature. I
discovered the lack of footnotes when I imported an RTF WORD document of
9 pages, most with footnotes and found I had lost all footnotes. If PS
doesn't support footnotes as such, maybe they could be converted to
marks and endnotes by the software. Just a thought which I know you must
have considered.......priorities, priorites. Footnotes of course would
be an important feature, but maybe not worth the effort if the endnotes
works elegantly.

So far I have not been able to see how text marks works.
Even with "show invisibles" toggled on, the text mark does not show.
While other marks do show they are erased when window is redrawn.

As for the word wrap issue, I think the wrap should be uniform around
the object regardless of text alignment. I'm not a programmer so I don't
know how difficult this would be. I haven't checked the other DTPs but
I would be surprised if the way PS handles this is standard.

>As for the word wrap issue, I think the wrap should be uniform around
>the object regardless of text alignment. I'm not a programmer so I don't
>know how difficult this would be. I haven't checked the other DTPs but
>I would be surprised if the way PS handles this is standard.

Well, I disagree, and I checked every program I could, and couldn't find
any that didn't work the way PageStream does.

If you ask that the text not be justified, you can't very well justify the
left side for fun.

However, it is usually bad taste to wrap text on the left and right of an
object anyway. Makes for some very difficult reading!

Could it be done? Of course. It is not all that difficult programming wise.
I just don't see it should work the way you see. If you can convince me
otherwise, and others don't complain...

Deron Kazmaier - support@softlogik.com
Grasshopper Publishing LLC -http://www.softlogik.com
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--- In PageStreamWindowsBeta@egroups.com, SoftLogik Support
<support@s...> wrote:
>
> >As for the word wrap issue, I think the wrap should be uniform
around
> >the object regardless of text alignment. I'm not a programmer so I
don't
> >know how difficult this would be. I haven't checked the other
DTPs
but
> >I would be surprised if the way PS handles this is standard.
>
> Well, I disagree, and I checked every program I could, and couldn't
find
> any that didn't work the way PageStream does.
>
> If you ask that the text not be justified, you can't very well
justify the
> left side for fun.
>
> However, it is usually bad taste to wrap text on the left and right
of an
> object anyway. Makes for some very difficult reading!
>
> Could it be done? Of course. It is not all that difficult
programming wise.
> I just don't see it should work the way you see. If you can
convince
me
> otherwise, and others don't complain...
>
> Deron Kazmaier - support@s...
> Grasshopper Publishing LLC -http://www.softlogik.com
> listhelp@s... for mailing list directions
> PageStream DTP for Amiga, Macintosh, and Windows

Thanks for response. Re the text wrap issue - choice #5 on the
requester- I guess I'm fighting the industry standard. It just upsets
my aesthetic sense - especially when the user is given the ability to
set the offset which one would, without thinking, think would apply
uniformly. But you are of course right when you point out that this
wrap choice (#5) should be used very judiciously. (I didn't realize
that the left edge of the object is actually the right margin of the
line (ragged on right with left aligned text) because the line
continues to the actual right margin.)

A far more serious issue is the footnote and/or endnote. You
suggested the use of text "marks" to create endnotes....apparently
that feature is not yet implemented. Also, if PS is not going to
support footnotes,it would be helpful if, when importing text with
footnotes, theycould be converted to text "marks" as endnotes so they
wouldn't be lost.

>A far more serious issue is the footnote and/or endnote. You
>suggested the use of text "marks" to create endnotes....apparently
>that feature is not yet implemented.

It worked fine here for me.

I did mislead you some however. Text marks won't autonumber. You need to
use figure marks.

Place the cursor where the endnote number goes. Then choose Text->Insert
Figure Mark. The name of the mark doesn't really matter since you won't be
using it in the text.

Then choose superscript, then Insert Figure Number. Choose the figure mark
you just inserted. Then go to the end of the article (ctrl downarrow) and
choose Insert Figure Number again and choose the same mark again. Then type
whatever you want for the reference.

In fact, once we have scripting control this would be a very simple script
to add for making easy end notes. The script would look something like

fignum = INSERTFIGURE NAME Endnote TYPE Endnotes
SETSCRIPT SUPER
INSERTNUMBER FIGURENUM fignum FORMAT ARABIC LANGUAGE DEFAULT LEVEL DEFAULT
TEXTCURSOR EOA
INSERTNUMBER FIGURENUM fignum FORMAT ARABIC LANGUAGE DEFAULT LEVEL DEFAULT
INSERT .
INSERTCONTROL TAB

Then you would just place the cursor at the location, choose "Add End Note"
and then type the end note reference.

>Also, if PS is not going to
>support footnotes,it would be helpful if, when importing text with
>footnotes, theycould be converted to text "marks" as endnotes so they
>wouldn't be lost.

True.

Deron Kazmaier - support@softlogik.com
Grasshopper Publishing LLC -http://www.softlogik.com
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SoftLogik Support wrote:
BTW Deron,

You're doing a great job in getting this ready for Prime Time.

You said that you have fixed the saving problem.

I imagine it will be on the next uploaded version. Do have any idea when
that'll be?

Also, when do you suppose you'll have the help files added? I am so
incompetent that I need a lot of help!

On another note, when I first got Atari PGS, I also bought separately
another book and program (?) from SPAR.

It was wonderful. You, like me and everyone else, has a POV, and we can
only think along the lines we thing in. So the two books which came with
PGS didn't address many of the fine examples put out by SPAR, just as
SPAR didn't touch your understanding of the things you explained.

So I'm wondering if SPAR is still in existence, or if there is anyone
else that you know of that might be supporting PGS? Of course, this is
really too soon for this, but you might know of something.

THe post you just did on the use of endnotes, I'm keeping. but I really
don't understand how to add the command programing material that is
there.

But then, there is still some way to go.

I am reminded of about a year ago when someone was posting that you'd
NEVER get the printing bug fixed, and so dropped off the list.

I and several others here responded to him that he was giving up way too
soon.

I know this has been a very long ways for you to go. And I hope that
somehow your finances hold out. But I want you to know that I really
appreciate your work and continuous efforts to make a program which
functions correctly on THREE platforms! Mahalo.

Lani

>On another note, when I first got Atari PGS, I also bought separately
>another book and program (?) from SPAR.
>
>It was wonderful. You, like me and everyone else, has a POV, and we can
>only think along the lines we thing in. So the two books which came with
>PGS didn't address many of the fine examples put out by SPAR, just as
>SPAR didn't touch your understanding of the things you explained.
>
>So I'm wondering if SPAR is still in existence, or if there is anyone
>else that you know of that might be supporting PGS? Of course, this is
>really too soon for this, but you might know of something.

Not that I know of. I havn't heard one way or another. It's always a good
thing to have third party support of a product, that is for sure!

I am trying to encourage third party developers. No one has stepped up for
a book, yet.

Deron Kazmaier - support@softlogik.com
Grasshopper Publishing LLC -http://www.softlogik.com
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