I have just started using Mac OS X 7.3 Lion.

Everything seems to work normally from my limited trials.

Only one thing seems odd (so far) that is that 'highlighting' comes out as black on black which is rather confusing.

Is there any way of rectifying this?

With many thanks,

Cheerio,

Terence Casey

27 inch iMac 2.6 GHz Intel Core 15

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Hi Terence,

On Mar 9, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Terence Casey wrote:

> I have just started using Mac OS X 7.3 Lion.
>
> Everything seems to work normally from my limited trials.
>
> Only one thing seems odd (so far) that is that 'highlighting' comes out as black on black which is rather confusing.

Yes, this is a known problem.

> Is there any way of rectifying this?

Still waiting on a fix from Deron.

Tim Doty

On 9 Mar 2012, at 15:21, Tim Doty wrote:

Many thanks for your answer.

Another URGENT problem has now arisen.

In Mac OS X 7.3 where are PageStream Preferences stored?

When PGS started up after a restart it went back to the original startup sequence "Enter your product key etc. etc……"

When this has happened in the past I simply replaced the preferences file with a copy of the previous one which I kept handy for the purpose.

This has now happened under the new OS but I can't find the preferences file to enable me to exchange it with the old copy.

Can anyone help please?

With many thanks,

Cheerio,

Terence Casey

-------------------------------------

> Hi Terence,
>
> On Mar 9, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Terence Casey wrote:
>
> > I have just started using Mac OS X 7.3 Lion.
> >
> > Everything seems to work normally from my limited trials.
> >
> > Only one thing seems odd (so far) that is that 'highlighting' comes out as black on black which is rather confusing.
>
> Yes, this is a known problem.
>
> > Is there any way of rectifying this?
>
> Still waiting on a fix from Deron.
>
> Tim Doty
>
>

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> In Mac OS X 7.3 where are PageStream Preferences stored?

Mine has a "com.grasshopperllc.PageStream.plist" under ~/Library/Preferences

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

At:http://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=82
says:
*OS X*

Macintosh per user preferences are stored in
/Users/{username}/Library/Application Support/PageStream5/ where
{username} is the name you logged into OS X under.

The main preferences file is called PageStream5.prefs.

Theo

Op 12-3-2012 17:31, Terence Casey schreef:
> On 9 Mar 2012, at 15:21, Tim Doty wrote:
>
> Many thanks for your answer.
>
> Another URGENT problem has now arisen.
>
> In Mac OS X 7.3 where are PageStream Preferences stored?
>
> When PGS started up after a restart it went back to the original startup sequence "Enter your product key etc. etc……"
>
> When this has happened in the past I simply replaced the preferences file with a copy of the previous one which I kept handy for the purpose.
>
> This has now happened under the new OS but I can't find the preferences file to enable me to exchange it with the old copy.
>
> Can anyone help please?
>
> With many thanks,
>
> Cheerio,
>
> Terence Casey
>
> -------------------------------------
>
>
>> Hi Terence,
>>
>> On Mar 9, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Terence Casey wrote:
>>
>>> I have just started using Mac OS X 7.3 Lion.
>>>
>>> Everything seems to work normally from my limited trials.
>>>
>>> Only one thing seems odd (so far) that is that 'highlighting' comes out as black on black which is rather confusing.
>> Yes, this is a known problem.
>>
>>> Is there any way of rectifying this?
>> Still waiting on a fix from Deron.
>>
>> Tim Doty
>>
>>
>

--
PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 32 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.1 and PySide 1.0.5
AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 2 GB RAM

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On 12 Mar 2012, at 16:52, Theo Zweers wrote:

What you suggest is exactly as I found it in Mac OS X 6.?? (Snow Leopard) and i used to find the prefs file and substitute the one I had saved from before.

However my problem now is that this does not work in MacOS X 7.3 (Lion).

In the first place there does not appear to be any folder called "Library" in (users)/(username)/

If I search for "Library" or "Application Support" nothing comes up.

If I search for "PageStream5.prefs" all I get is the old preference files I have previously saved.

So I am no nearer to finding the current preference file. I am sure it is somewhere because if I save a preference in PGS it is applied to my work. If I then change the preference and save it again the new preference is applied to the work/ So it must be saved somewhere – but where?

Can anyone help please?

With many thanks,

Cheerio,

Terence Casey

------------------------------------------------

> At:http://www.pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=82
> says:
> *OS X*
>
> Macintosh per user preferences are stored in
> /Users/{username}/Library/Application Support/PageStream5/ where
> {username} is the name you logged into OS X under.
>
> The main preferences file is called PageStream5.prefs.
>
> Theo
>
> Op 12-3-2012 17:31, Terence Casey schreef:
>> On 9 Mar 2012, at 15:21, Tim Doty wrote:
>>
>> Many thanks for your answer.
>>
>> Another URGENT problem has now arisen.
>>
>> In Mac OS X 7.3 where are PageStream Preferences stored?
>>
>> When PGS started up after a restart it went back to the original startup sequence "Enter your product key etc. etc∑∑"
>>
>> When this has happened in the past I simply replaced the preferences file with a copy of the previous one which I kept handy for the purpose.
>>
>> This has now happened under the new OS but I can't find the preferences file to enable me to exchange it with the old copy.
>>
>> Can anyone help please?
>>
>> With many thanks,
>>
>> Cheerio,
>>
>> Terence Casey
>>
>> -------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>> Hi Terence,
>>>
>>> On Mar 9, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Terence Casey wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have just started using Mac OS X 7.3 Lion.
>>>>
>>>> Everything seems to work normally from my limited trials.
>>>>
>>>> Only one thing seems odd (so far) that is that 'highlighting' comes out as black on black which is rather confusing.
>>> Yes, this is a known problem.
>>>
>>>> Is there any way of rectifying this?
>>> Still waiting on a fix from Deron.
>>>
>>> Tim Doty
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 32 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.1 and PySide 1.0.5
> AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 2 GB RAM
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

> What you suggest is exactly as I found it in Mac OS X 6.?? (Snow Leopard) and i used to find the prefs file and substitute the one I had saved from before.
>
> However my problem now is that this does not work in MacOS X 7.3 (Lion).
>
> In the first place there does not appear to be any folder called "Library" in (users)/(username)/

That is a different question.
MacWorld magazine published a lift of at least 19 ways to make ~/Library available to the average user.

Click on Finder
Holding the <Option> key down, click on the "Go" Menu
Scroll down and choose "Library"

When a Finder window now opens with ~/Library in it, click-and-hold on the folder in the titlebar of the window, and drag it to the top part of the sidebar on the left.

Once you have done this, ~/Library will always be available to you, and the file is where I previously said:
~/Library/Preferences/com.grasshopperllc.PageStream.plist

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

On 13 Mar 2012, at 15:37, Jim Saklad wrote:

Well. That did it! Many thanks – I would never have found it otherwise. Not very intuitive is it?

With many thanks,

Cheerio,

Terence Casey

------------------------------------

>> What you suggest is exactly as I found it in Mac OS X 6.?? (Snow Leopard) and i used to find the prefs file and substitute the one I had saved from before.
>>
>> However my problem now is that this does not work in MacOS X 7.3 (Lion).
>>
>> In the first place there does not appear to be any folder called "Library" in (users)/(username)/
>
> That is a different question.
> MacWorld magazine published a lift of at least 19 ways to make ~/Library available to the average user.
>
> Click on Finder
> Holding the <Option> key down, click on the "Go" Menu
> Scroll down and choose "Library"
>
> When a Finder window now opens with ~/Library in it, click-and-hold on the folder in the titlebar of the window, and drag it to the top part of the sidebar on the left.
>
> Once you have done this, ~/Library will always be available to you, and the file is where I previously said:
> ~/Library/Preferences/com.grasshopperllc.PageStream.plist
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

It's one problem after another with this new Mac OS!

I did what Jim Saklad suggested and PGS appeared to load perfectly with all my old preferences in place.

That was until I noticed that the items in the Toolbar were not the ones I usually use.

I went to PGS Preferences and brought up the 'Toolbar\' page. I moved all the preferences I wanted from the left window to the right window and clicked on Save. When I reopened PGS nothing had altered.

I then tried manually editing the Preferences file in 'Library' but this also had no effect.

What am I doing wrong please?

With many thanks,

Cheerio,

Terence Casey

-------------------------------------------------------------

>
> On 13 Mar 2012, at 15:37, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
> Well. That did it! Many thanks – I would never have found it otherwise. Not very intuitive is it?
>
> With many thanks,
>
> Cheerio,
>
> Terence Casey
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>>> What you suggest is exactly as I found it in Mac OS X 6.?? (Snow Leopard) and i used to find the prefs file and substitute the one I had saved from before.
>>>
>>> However my problem now is that this does not work in MacOS X 7.3 (Lion).
>>>
>>> In the first place there does not appear to be any folder called "Library" in (users)/(username)/
>>
>> That is a different question.
>> MacWorld magazine published a lift of at least 19 ways to make ~/Library available to the average user.
>>
>> Click on Finder
>> Holding the <Option> key down, click on the "Go" Menu
>> Scroll down and choose "Library"
>>
>> When a Finder window now opens with ~/Library in it, click-and-hold on the folder in the titlebar of the window, and drag it to the top part of the sidebar on the left.
>>
>> Once you have done this, ~/Library will always be available to you, and the file is where I previously said:
>> ~/Library/Preferences/com.grasshopperllc.PageStream.plist
>>
>> --
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hi Terrence,

On 14Mar2012, at 4:28 AM, Terence Casey wrote:

> It's one problem after another with this new Mac OS!
>
> I did what Jim Saklad suggested and PGS appeared to load perfectly with all my old preferences in place.
>
> That was until I noticed that the items in the Toolbar were not the ones I usually use.
>
> I went to PGS Preferences and brought up the 'Toolbar\' page. I moved all the preferences I wanted from the left window to the right window and clicked on Save. When I reopened PGS nothing had altered.
>
> I then tried manually editing the Preferences file in 'Library' but this also had no effect.
>
> What am I doing wrong please?

When you finally get PageStream running under Lion, I would appreciate a report as to how the printing facility works, both the PageStream printing system as well as the Lion print system.

Good Luck!

Don Green Dragon
fergdc@Shaw.ca

> When you finally get PageStream running under Lion, I would appreciate a report as to how the printing facility works, both the PageStream printing system as well as the Lion print system.

I haven't had much need for Pagestream lately, but I *am* running Lion (10.7.3) on a 3-year-old Macbook Pro.

So I opened it, loaded a simple file (2 columns of black text on white background), and told it to print, and it printed to my Lion-default printer.

I can't speak to more complex documents or printing requirements.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

In answer to Don Green Dragon, a small printing trial using:

PGS 5.0.5.8 Pro 10/11/10 – Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3 – 27 inch iMac, 2.8 Intel core i5.

1) PGS opens an old document with black text and coloured photographs and everything appears normal.

2) Using System Printing prints OK to my HP LaserJet 1200 in greyscale of course and also in colour to my HP DeskJet 1220c.

3) Using PGS Printing produces the same results.

4) So I can say that as far as this small trial goes printing works normally under either system. The only slight glitch is that under System Printing if I direct the output to the HP DeskJet 1220c it prints OK but then, after a few seconds it prints the same thing on the HP LaserJet 1200 which is the default printer. I suspect that if I made the HP DeskJet 1220c the default printer this problem could be avoided – but I have not tried this.

BUT BUT BUT I still cannot get the 'Toolbar Page' in PageStream preferences to work. Has anyone experienced this or can suggest a solution?

With many thanks,

Cheerio,

Terence Casey

------------------------------------------

On 15 Mar 2012, at 21:37, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> When you finally get PageStream running under Lion, I would appreciate a report as to how the printing facility works, both the PageStream printing system as well as the Lion print system.
>
> I haven't had much need for Pagestream lately, but I *am* running Lion (10.7.3) on a 3-year-old Macbook Pro.
>
> So I opened it, loaded a simple file (2 columns of black text on white background), and told it to print, and it printed to my Lion-default printer.
>
> I can't speak to more complex documents or printing requirements.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I now realise that my previous report on PGS/Mac OS X Lion was somewhat overoptimistic.

The fact is that to all intents and purposes it does not work.

The main reason is that 'copy and paste' does not work either within PGS nor from other applications such as a word processor.

This facility is so fundamental to any document production in PGS that it must be said not to work.

Terence Casey

-----------------------------------------

On 16 Mar 2012, at 15:33, Terence Casey wrote:

> In answer to Don Green Dragon, a small printing trial using:
>
> PGS 5.0.5.8 Pro 10/11/10 – Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3 – 27 inch iMac, 2.8 Intel core i5.
>
> 1) PGS opens an old document with black text and coloured photographs and everything appears normal.
>
> 2) Using System Printing prints OK to my HP LaserJet 1200 in greyscale of course and also in colour to my HP DeskJet 1220c.
>
> 3) Using PGS Printing produces the same results.
>
> 4) So I can say that as far as this small trial goes printing works normally under either system. The only slight glitch is that under System Printing if I direct the output to the HP DeskJet 1220c it prints OK but then, after a few seconds it prints the same thing on the HP LaserJet 1200 which is the default printer. I suspect that if I made the HP DeskJet 1220c the default printer this problem could be avoided – but I have not tried this.
>
> BUT BUT BUT I still cannot get the 'Toolbar Page' in PageStream preferences to work. Has anyone experienced this or can suggest a solution?
>
> With many thanks,
>
> Cheerio,
>
> Terence Casey
>
> ------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> On 15 Mar 2012, at 21:37, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
>>> When you finally get PageStream running under Lion, I would appreciate a report as to how the printing facility works, both the PageStream printing system as well as the Lion print system.
>>
>> I haven't had much need for Pagestream lately, but I *am* running Lion (10.7.3) on a 3-year-old Macbook Pro.
>>
>> So I opened it, loaded a simple file (2 columns of black text on white background), and told it to print, and it printed to my Lion-default printer.
>>
>> I can't speak to more complex documents or printing requirements.
>>
>> --
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Is there any further news about the reconciliation of PageStream with Mac OS X 10.7.3 Lion?

Terence Casey.

------------------------------------------------

On 28 Mar 2012, at 23:24, Terence Casey wrote:

> I now realise that my previous report on PGS/Mac OS X Lion was somewhat overoptimistic.
>
> The fact is that to all intents and purposes it does not work.
>
> The main reason is that 'copy and paste' does not work either within PGS nor from other applications such as a word processor.
>
> This facility is so fundamental to any document production in PGS that it must be said not to work.
>
> Terence Casey
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
> On 16 Mar 2012, at 15:33, Terence Casey wrote:
>
>> In answer to Don Green Dragon, a small printing trial using:
>>
>> PGS 5.0.5.8 Pro 10/11/10 – Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3 – 27 inch iMac, 2.8 Intel core i5.
>>
>> 1) PGS opens an old document with black text and coloured photographs and everything appears normal.
>>
>> 2) Using System Printing prints OK to my HP LaserJet 1200 in greyscale of course and also in colour to my HP DeskJet 1220c.
>>
>> 3) Using PGS Printing produces the same results.
>>
>> 4) So I can say that as far as this small trial goes printing works normally under either system. The only slight glitch is that under System Printing if I direct the output to the HP DeskJet 1220c it prints OK but then, after a few seconds it prints the same thing on the HP LaserJet 1200 which is the default printer. I suspect that if I made the HP DeskJet 1220c the default printer this problem could be avoided – but I have not tried this.
>>
>> BUT BUT BUT I still cannot get the 'Toolbar Page' in PageStream preferences to work. Has anyone experienced this or can suggest a solution?
>>
>> With many thanks,
>>
>> Cheerio,
>>
>> Terence Casey
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15 Mar 2012, at 21:37, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>
>>>> When you finally get PageStream running under Lion, I would appreciate a report as to how the printing facility works, both the PageStream printing system as well as the Lion print system.
>>>
>>> I haven't had much need for Pagestream lately, but I *am* running Lion (10.7.3) on a 3-year-old Macbook Pro.
>>>
>>> So I opened it, loaded a simple file (2 columns of black text on white background), and told it to print, and it printed to my Lion-default printer.
>>>
>>> I can't speak to more complex documents or printing requirements.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

We can hope that Deron will weigh in.

What I do to compensate for the lack of cut & paste is to use 'import' a lot. Not ideal and not suggesting that it is a replacement, but for my purposes it works well enough: of late I've been doing functional documentation or handouts where all I would be pasting is text for the body. So importing isn't really that much of an imposition. Other use cases it would of course make PgS pretty useless.

On Apr 09, 2012, at 04:54 PM, Terence Casey <caseytd@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
> Is there any further news about the reconciliation of PageStream with Mac OS X 10.7.3 Lion?
>
> Terence Casey.
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On 28 Mar 2012, at 23:24, Terence Casey wrote:
>
> > I now realise that my previous report on PGS/Mac OS X Lion was somewhat overoptimistic.
> >
> > The fact is that to all intents and purposes it does not work.
> >
> > The main reason is that 'copy and paste' does not work either within PGS nor from other applications such as a word processor.
> >
> > This facility is so fundamental to any document production in PGS that it must be said not to work.
> >
> > Terence Casey
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> >
> > On 16 Mar 2012, at 15:33, Terence Casey wrote:
> >
> >> In answer to Don Green Dragon, a small printing trial using:
> >>
> >> PGS 5.0.5.8 Pro 10/11/10 – Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3 – 27 inch iMac, 2.8 Intel core i5.
> >>
> >> 1) PGS opens an old document with black text and coloured photographs and everything appears normal.
> >>
> >> 2) Using System Printing prints OK to my HP LaserJet 1200 in greyscale of course and also in colour to my HP DeskJet 1220c.
> >>
> >> 3) Using PGS Printing produces the same results.
> >>
> >> 4) So I can say that as far as this small trial goes printing works normally under either system. The only slight glitch is that under System Printing if I direct the output to the HP DeskJet 1220c it prints OK but then, after a few seconds it prints the same thing on the HP LaserJet 1200 which is the default printer. I suspect that if I made the HP DeskJet 1220c the default printer this problem could be avoided – but I have not tried this.
> >>
> >> BUT BUT BUT I still cannot get the 'Toolbar Page' in PageStream preferences to work. Has anyone experienced this or can suggest a solution?
> >>
> >> With many thanks,
> >>
> >> Cheerio,
> >>
> >> Terence Casey
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 15 Mar 2012, at 21:37, Jim Saklad wrote:
> >>
> >>>> When you finally get PageStream running under Lion, I would appreciate a report as to how the printing facility works, both the PageStream printing system as well as the Lion print system.
> >>>
> >>> I haven't had much need for Pagestream lately, but I *am* running Lion (10.7.3) on a 3-year-old Macbook Pro.
> >>>
> >>> So I opened it, loaded a simple file (2 columns of black text on white background), and told it to print, and it printed to my Lion-default printer.
> >>>
> >>> I can't speak to more complex documents or printing requirements.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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Cut and paste? The original concept of DTP was that it's for page layout, and editing is done externally. You want an image, you import it. You want text, you import it. Incorporating editing in a DTP application is a modern convenience (like hot and cold running water, flush toilets and sliced bread).

BTW I don't use PgS for my newsletter any more, but I still use it for 4-up meeting-notice postcards. Cut and paste still works, because I declined to upgrade from Snow Leopard to Lion. But I seldom use it because it's hard to predict what style the pasted text will inherit. Otherwise, I do edit text in PgS.

On Apr 10, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Tim Doty wrote:

> We can hope that Deron will weigh in.
>
> What I do to compensate for the lack of cut & paste is to use 'import' a lot. Not ideal and not suggesting that it is a replacement, but for my purposes it works well enough: of late I've been doing functional documentation or handouts where all I would be pasting is text for the body. So importing isn't really that much of an imposition. Other use cases it would of course make PgS pretty useless.
>
> On Apr 09, 2012, at 04:54 PM, Terence Casey <caseytd@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Is there any further news about the reconciliation of PageStream with Mac OS X 10.7.3 Lion?
>>
>> Terence Casey.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> On 28 Mar 2012, at 23:24, Terence Casey wrote:
>>
>>> I now realise that my previous report on PGS/Mac OS X Lion was somewhat overoptimistic.
>>>
>>> The fact is that to all intents and purposes it does not work.
>>>
>>> The main reason is that 'copy and paste' does not work either within PGS nor from other applications such as a word processor.
>>>
>>> This facility is so fundamental to any document production in PGS that it must be said not to work.
>>>
>>> Terence Casey
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>
>>> On 16 Mar 2012, at 15:33, Terence Casey wrote:
>>>
>>>> In answer to Don Green Dragon, a small printing trial using:
>>>>
>>>> PGS 5.0.5.8 Pro 10/11/10 – Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3 – 27 inch iMac, 2.8 Intel core i5.
>>>>
>>>> 1) PGS opens an old document with black text and coloured photographs and everything appears normal.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Using System Printing prints OK to my HP LaserJet 1200 in greyscale of course and also in colour to my HP DeskJet 1220c.
>>>>
>>>> 3) Using PGS Printing produces the same results.
>>>>
>>>> 4) So I can say that as far as this small trial goes printing works normally under either system. The only slight glitch is that under System Printing if I direct the output to the HP DeskJet 1220c it prints OK but then, after a few seconds it prints the same thing on the HP LaserJet 1200 which is the default printer. I suspect that if I made the HP DeskJet 1220c the default printer this problem could be avoided – but I have not tried this.
>>>>
>>>> BUT BUT BUT I still cannot get the 'Toolbar Page' in PageStream preferences to work. Has anyone experienced this or can suggest a solution?
>>>>
>>>> With many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Cheerio,
>>>>
>>>> Terence Casey
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15 Mar 2012, at 21:37, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> When you finally get PageStream running under Lion, I would appreciate a report as to how the printing facility works, both the PageStream printing system as well as the Lion print system.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't had much need for Pagestream lately, but I *am* running Lion (10.7.3) on a 3-year-old Macbook Pro.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I opened it, loaded a simple file (2 columns of black text on white background), and told it to print, and it printed to my Lion-default printer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't speak to more complex documents or printing requirements.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>>>>>
>>>>>

--
Martin B. Brilliant - mbrilliant@alum.mit.edu
Mac OS X version 10.6.8
PageStream (non-pro) 5.0.5.8

We learn something new every day! I have never used 'import' for placing text in a document although I do use it for importing pictures.

I have now tried it and it does indeed work in the way people have described.

However I would have to make considerable changes in the way that I edit contributions in the word processor before importing them into the document to make it work conveniently for me.

So I very much hope that 'cut and paste' will be got working with Mac OS X Lion.

And also that 'highlight text' can be changed from the present black on black.

Cheerio,

Terence Casey

------------------------------------------------

On 10 Apr 2012, at 15:20, Martin B. Brilliant wrote:

> Cut and paste? The original concept of DTP was that it's for page layout, and editing is done externally. You want an image, you import it. You want text, you import it. Incorporating editing in a DTP application is a modern convenience (like hot and cold running water, flush toilets and sliced bread).
>
> BTW I don't use PgS for my newsletter any more, but I still use it for 4-up meeting-notice postcards. Cut and paste still works, because I declined to upgrade from Snow Leopard to Lion. But I seldom use it because it's hard to predict what style the pasted text will inherit. Otherwise, I do edit text in PgS.
>
> On Apr 10, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Tim Doty wrote:
>
>> We can hope that Deron will weigh in.
>>
>> What I do to compensate for the lack of cut & paste is to use 'import' a lot. Not ideal and not suggesting that it is a replacement, but for my purposes it works well enough: of late I've been doing functional documentation or handouts where all I would be pasting is text for the body. So importing isn't really that much of an imposition. Other use cases it would of course make PgS pretty useless.
>>
>> On Apr 09, 2012, at 04:54 PM, Terence Casey <caseytd@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Is there any further news about the reconciliation of PageStream with Mac OS X 10.7.3 Lion?
>>>
>>> Terence Casey.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 Mar 2012, at 23:24, Terence Casey wrote:
>>>
>>>> I now realise that my previous report on PGS/Mac OS X Lion was somewhat overoptimistic.
>>>>
>>>> The fact is that to all intents and purposes it does not work.
>>>>
>>>> The main reason is that 'copy and paste' does not work either within PGS nor from other applications such as a word processor.
>>>>
>>>> This facility is so fundamental to any document production in PGS that it must be said not to work.
>>>>
>>>> Terence Casey
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> On 16 Mar 2012, at 15:33, Terence Casey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In answer to Don Green Dragon, a small printing trial using:
>>>>>
>>>>> PGS 5.0.5.8 Pro 10/11/10 – Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3 – 27 inch iMac, 2.8 Intel core i5.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) PGS opens an old document with black text and coloured photographs and everything appears normal.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Using System Printing prints OK to my HP LaserJet 1200 in greyscale of course and also in colour to my HP DeskJet 1220c.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Using PGS Printing produces the same results.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) So I can say that as far as this small trial goes printing works normally under either system. The only slight glitch is that under System Printing if I direct the output to the HP DeskJet 1220c it prints OK but then, after a few seconds it prints the same thing on the HP LaserJet 1200 which is the default printer. I suspect that if I made the HP DeskJet 1220c the default printer this problem could be avoided – but I have not tried this.
>>>>>
>>>>> BUT BUT BUT I still cannot get the 'Toolbar Page' in PageStream preferences to work. Has anyone experienced this or can suggest a solution?
>>>>>
>>>>> With many thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheerio,
>>>>>
>>>>> Terence Casey
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15 Mar 2012, at 21:37, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you finally get PageStream running under Lion, I would appreciate a report as to how the printing facility works, both the PageStream printing system as well as the Lion print system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't had much need for Pagestream lately, but I *am* running Lion (10.7.3) on a 3-year-old Macbook Pro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I opened it, loaded a simple file (2 columns of black text on white background), and told it to print, and it printed to my Lion-default printer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't speak to more complex documents or printing requirements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
> --
> Martin B. Brilliant - mbrilliant@alum.mit.edu
> Mac OS X version 10.6.8
> PageStream (non-pro) 5.0.5.8
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Terence Casey wrote:

>
> We learn something new every day! I have never used 'import' for placing text in a document although I do use it for importing pictures.
>
> I have now tried it and it does indeed work in the way people have described.
>
> However I would have to make considerable changes in the way that I edit contributions in the word processor before importing them into the document to make it work conveniently for me.

If I were in a situation such as you describe I would do my composing in
a simple text editor (on the mac maybe bbedit) and then import the text
to PGS. In a multitasking situation one can have the text editor
and pgs open at the same time and import from a the saved text file.

Just a suggestion.

As an experiment - Have you tried copying to the clipboard from pgs and
pasting that in an extral text editor window?

>
> So I very much hope that 'cut and paste' will be got working with Mac OS X Lion.
>
> And also that 'highlight text' can be changed from the present black on black.
>
> Cheerio,
>
> Terence Casey
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On 10 Apr 2012, at 15:20, Martin B. Brilliant wrote:
>
>> Cut and paste? The original concept of DTP was that it's for page layout, and editing is done externally. You want an image, you import it. You want text, you import it. Incorporating editing in a DTP application is a modern convenience (like hot and cold running water, flush toilets and sliced bread).
>>
>> BTW I don't use PgS for my newsletter any more, but I still use it for 4-up meeting-notice postcards. Cut and paste still works, because I declined to upgrade from Snow Leopard to Lion. But I seldom use it because it's hard to predict what style the pasted text will inherit. Otherwise, I do edit text in PgS.
>>
>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Tim Doty wrote:
>>
>>> We can hope that Deron will weigh in.
>>>
>>> What I do to compensate for the lack of cut & paste is to use 'import' a lot. Not ideal and not suggesting that it is a replacement, but for my purposes it works well enough: of late I've been doing functional documentation or handouts where all I would be pasting is text for the body. So importing isn't really that much of an imposition. Other use cases it would of course make PgS pretty useless.
>>>
>>> On Apr 09, 2012, at 04:54 PM, Terence Casey <caseytd@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is there any further news about the reconciliation of PageStream with Mac OS X 10.7.3 Lion?
>>>>
>>>> Terence Casey.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 28 Mar 2012, at 23:24, Terence Casey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I now realise that my previous report on PGS/Mac OS X Lion was somewhat overoptimistic.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fact is that to all intents and purposes it does not work.
>>>>>
>>>>> The main reason is that 'copy and paste' does not work either within PGS nor from other applications such as a word processor.
>>>>>
>>>>> This facility is so fundamental to any document production in PGS that it must be said not to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Terence Casey
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Mar 2012, at 15:33, Terence Casey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In answer to Don Green Dragon, a small printing trial using:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PGS 5.0.5.8 Pro 10/11/10 – Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3 – 27 inch iMac, 2.8 Intel core i5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) PGS opens an old document with black text and coloured photographs and everything appears normal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Using System Printing prints OK to my HP LaserJet 1200 in greyscale of course and also in colour to my HP DeskJet 1220c.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) Using PGS Printing produces the same results.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) So I can say that as far as this small trial goes printing works normally under either system. The only slight glitch is that under System Printing if I direct the output to the HP DeskJet 1220c it prints OK but then, after a few seconds it prints the same thing on the HP LaserJet 1200 which is the default printer. I suspect that if I made the HP DeskJet 1220c the default printer this problem could be avoided – but I have not tried this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BUT BUT BUT I still cannot get the 'Toolbar Page' in PageStream preferences to work. Has anyone experienced this or can suggest a solution?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With many thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheerio,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Terence Casey
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15 Mar 2012, at 21:37, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When you finally get PageStream running under Lion, I would appreciate a report as to how the printing facility works, both the PageStream printing system as well as the Lion print system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't had much need for Pagestream lately, but I *am* running Lion (10.7.3) on a 3-year-old Macbook Pro.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I opened it, loaded a simple file (2 columns of black text on white background), and told it to print, and it printed to my Lion-default printer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't speak to more complex documents or printing requirements.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Martin B. Brilliant - mbrilliant@alum.mit.edu
>> Mac OS X version 10.6.8
>> PageStream (non-pro) 5.0.5.8
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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On Apr 10, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Bonnie Dalzell wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Terence Casey wrote:
>
> >
> > We learn something new every day! I have never used 'import' for placing text in a document although I do use it for importing pictures.
> >
> > I have now tried it and it does indeed work in the way people have described.
> >
> > However I would have to make considerable changes in the way that I edit contributions in the word processor before importing them into the document to make it work conveniently for me.
>
> If I were in a situation such as you describe I would do my composing in
> a simple text editor (on the mac maybe bbedit)

There is also the HCTextEditor, which I hope is a good complement to PgS. Which reminds me, I need to update that. Done (seehttp://pagestream.ylansi.net under 'scripts' though it is actually a standalone text editor).

Tim Doty

> and then import the text
> to PGS. In a multitasking situation one can have the text editor
> and pgs open at the same time and import from a the saved text file.
>
> Just a suggestion.
>
> As an experiment - Have you tried copying to the clipboard from pgs and
> pasting that in an extral text editor window?
>
> >
> > So I very much hope that 'cut and paste' will be got working with Mac OS X Lion.
> >
> > And also that 'highlight text' can be changed from the present black on black.
> >
> > Cheerio,
> >
> > Terence Casey
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > On 10 Apr 2012, at 15:20, Martin B. Brilliant wrote:
> >
> >> Cut and paste? The original concept of DTP was that it's for page layout, and editing is done externally. You want an image, you import it. You want text, you import it. Incorporating editing in a DTP application is a modern convenience (like hot and cold running water, flush toilets and sliced bread).
> >>
> >> BTW I don't use PgS for my newsletter any more, but I still use it for 4-up meeting-notice postcards. Cut and paste still works, because I declined to upgrade from Snow Leopard to Lion. But I seldom use it because it's hard to predict what style the pasted text will inherit. Otherwise, I do edit text in PgS.
> >>
> >> On Apr 10, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Tim Doty wrote:
> >>
> >>> We can hope that Deron will weigh in.
> >>>
> >>> What I do to compensate for the lack of cut & paste is to use 'import' a lot. Not ideal and not suggesting that it is a replacement, but for my purposes it works well enough: of late I've been doing functional documentation or handouts where all I would be pasting is text for the body. So importing isn't really that much of an imposition. Other use cases it would of course make PgS pretty useless.
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 09, 2012, at 04:54 PM, Terence Casey <caseytd@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there any further news about the reconciliation of PageStream with Mac OS X 10.7.3 Lion?
> >>>>
> >>>> Terence Casey.
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 28 Mar 2012, at 23:24, Terence Casey wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I now realise that my previous report on PGS/Mac OS X Lion was somewhat overoptimistic.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The fact is that to all intents and purposes it does not work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The main reason is that 'copy and paste' does not work either within PGS nor from other applications such as a word processor.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This facility is so fundamental to any document production in PGS that it must be said not to work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Terence Casey
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 16 Mar 2012, at 15:33, Terence Casey wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> In answer to Don Green Dragon, a small printing trial using:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> PGS 5.0.5.8 Pro 10/11/10 – Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3 – 27 inch iMac, 2.8 Intel core i5.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1) PGS opens an old document with black text and coloured photographs and everything appears normal.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2) Using System Printing prints OK to my HP LaserJet 1200 in greyscale of course and also in colour to my HP DeskJet 1220c.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 3) Using PGS Printing produces the same results.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 4) So I can say that as far as this small trial goes printing works normally under either system. The only slight glitch is that under System Printing if I direct the output to the HP DeskJet 1220c it prints OK but then, after a few seconds it prints the same thing on the HP LaserJet 1200 which is the default printer. I suspect that if I made the HP DeskJet 1220c the default printer this problem could be avoided – but I have not tried this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> BUT BUT BUT I still cannot get the 'Toolbar Page' in PageStream preferences to work. Has anyone experienced this or can suggest a solution?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> With many thanks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheerio,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Terence Casey
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 15 Mar 2012, at 21:37, Jim Saklad wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> When you finally get PageStream running under Lion, I would appreciate a report as to how the printing facility works, both the PageStream printing system as well as the Lion print system.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I haven't had much need for Pagestream lately, but I *am* running Lion (10.7.3) on a 3-year-old Macbook Pro.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So I opened it, loaded a simple file (2 columns of black text on white background), and told it to print, and it printed to my Lion-default printer.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I can't speak to more complex documents or printing requirements.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>>>> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Martin B. Brilliant - mbrilliant@alum.mit.edu
> >> Mac OS X version 10.6.8
> >> PageStream (non-pro) 5.0.5.8
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Bonnie Dalzell, MA
> mailO box 9767 Baldwin, MD, USA 21013 | EMAIL:bdalzell@qis.net
> shipping adddress:5100 Hydes Rd 21082 (Hydes Post Office closed Jan 2012)
> Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog
> breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com.
> HOME www.batw.net ART bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Tim Doty wrote on 10.04.2012
about <Re: [PageStreamSupport] PGS and Mac OS X 7.3 Lion> the following:

> We can hope that Deron will weigh in.
[...]

well, i have not seen an email from deron since *month*.
also no answer to a private mail some weeks ago.

anyone? what's up?

regards...
--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael
Member ofhttp://www.amiga-freunde.de

On Apr 11, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Michael Merkel wrote:

> Tim Doty wrote on 10.04.2012
> about <Re: [PageStreamSupport] PGS and Mac OS X 7.3 Lion> the following:
>
> > We can hope that Deron will weigh in.
> [...]
>
> well, i have not seen an email from deron since *month*.
> also no answer to a private mail some weeks ago.
>
> anyone? what's up?

well, I could be anyone

I haven't heard anything from Deron in a while either, and I generally get private email from time to time. However, I wouldn't be too worried as he's had other quiet periods before. At a guess, I'd say he's working on one of his other projects, knee deep in solving some issue.

Tim Doty