Hi all,

I'm unable to download PageStream, even when logged in, and getting no reply from SUPPORT so anyone know what is wrong with the download area?

I can't download anything I am entitled to either. I've asked via support/sales to get this fixed as soon as possible, as it is not fair on people who have bought your software to be denied access to the files they're entitles to when they've paid for them and need to get at them.

I've already reported the problem a day or two ago to Support, but I have had no reply so far, so just wondered if anyone else is having the same problem, or is it just me !!

Neil

Well something it up. I've asked Deron a question a few days ago but there hasnt been a word from him. That is unusual. Lets hope that nothing has happened to him.
In the mean time... one day soon (how sson I dont know) we will have to move from Pagestream. Scribus is a formidable program, it has a few quirks on how things work, prolly nothing insurmountable, but may take some getting used to after using Pagestream for so long.

What alternatives to Pagestream are others here considering?

On Fri, 04 May 2012 19:55:03 -0400, Amigaman <am1gaman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm unable to download PageStream, even when logged in, and getting no reply from SUPPORT so anyone know what is wrong with the download area?
>
> I can't download anything I am entitled to either. I've asked via support/sales to get this fixed as soon as possible, as it is not fair on people who have bought >your software to be denied access to the files they're entitles to when they've paid for them and need to get at them.
>
> I've already reported the problem a day or two ago to Support, but I have had no reply so far, so just wondered if anyone else is having the same problem, or is >it just me !!
>
> Neil

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On 5/4/2012 10:05 PM, admfubar@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Well something it up. I've asked Deron a question a few days ago but
> there hasnt been a word from him. That is unusual. Lets hope that
> nothing has happened to him.
> In the mean time... one day soon (how sson I dont know) we will have
> to move from Pagestream. Scribus is a formidable program, it has a
> few quirks on how things work, prolly nothing insurmountable, but may
> take some getting used to after using Pagestream for so long.
>
> What alternatives to Pagestream are others here considering?
>
One alternative---the one I will use---is PageStream. It won't just quit
working.

>
> On Fri, 04 May 2012 19:55:03 -0400, Amigaman <am1gaman@yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:am1gaman%40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm unable to download PageStream, even when logged in, and getting
> no reply from SUPPORT so anyone know what is wrong with the download area?
> >
> > I can't download anything I am entitled to either. I've asked via
> support/sales to get this fixed as soon as possible, as it is not fair
> on people who have bought >your software to be denied access to the
> files they're entitles to when they've paid for them and need to get
> at them.
> >
> > I've already reported the problem a day or two ago to Support, but I
> have had no reply so far, so just wondered if anyone else is having
> the same problem, or is >it just me !!
> >
> > Neil
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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those who can't.

Just busy fixing problems with the server.

Downloading should be restored now.

Deron

On 5/4/12 9:05 PM, admfubar@gmail.com wrote:
> Well something it up. I've asked Deron a question a few days ago but there hasnt been a word from him. That is unusual. Lets hope that nothing has happened to him.
> In the mean time... one day soon (how sson I dont know) we will have to move from Pagestream. Scribus is a formidable program, it has a few quirks on how things work, prolly nothing insurmountable, but may take some getting used to after using Pagestream for so long.
>
> What alternatives to Pagestream are others here considering?
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 04 May 2012 19:55:03 -0400, Amigaman<am1gaman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm unable to download PageStream, even when logged in, and getting no reply from SUPPORT so anyone know what is wrong with the download area?
>>
>> I can't download anything I am entitled to either. I've asked via support/sales to get this fixed as soon as possible, as it is not fair on people who have bought>your software to be denied access to the files they're entitles to when they've paid for them and need to get at them.
>>
>> I've already reported the problem a day or two ago to Support, but I have had no reply so far, so just wondered if anyone else is having the same problem, or is>it just me !!
>>
>> Neil

--
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Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

> One alternative---the one I will use---is PageStream. It won't just quit
> working.

Thanks for the kind words!

Deron

--
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Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

--- In PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com, PageStream Support <deron@...> wrote:
>
> Just busy fixing problems with the server.
>
> Downloading should be restored now.
>
> Deron
>
Hi Deron,

The main problem with the PageStream download problem, which it seems was a server problem, appears to have been resolved by you.

However, I have on my download files the authority to download Windows version PageStream 4.1.5.8 Windows, which was released on 2003-03-13, and is supposed to be 7,239,949 bytes in size, but I do not seem to be able to access that download file, is this something you are aware of, or is it something new that needs fixing?

Thanks for your efforts on fixing the download problem.

I have had some use out of the Windows version of PageStream, but I still basically prefer the Amiga version, I think it's just the intuition of the Amiga OS that helps to make it that bit easier to use overall, but the speed of the PC CPU does help as well, just a pity the Amiga doesn't have that blistering speed in an available CPU for the OS itself.

I tried to alter the preferences in the Windows version of PageStream and stop snap-to-grid, but it does not seem to work, or at least not work in the same way as the Amiga version. I tried to 'nudge' the image file I was importing, and that seemed to work, both shifted, and unshifted, but when actually placing the image it still seemed to snap-to-grid. Is there some other way of deselecting this feature or am I doing it wrong somehow?

Is there any progress on the Amiga version of PageStream 5.x.x.x as yet as I'd really like a fully working version of it?

Is there any way you can keep the PDF import filter external to the main PageStream program, just as an additional filter that can be updated as you update the filter, so that people like me who have to rely on the Amiga 4.1.5.6 version to do quite a few PDF imports can actually still get some use out of it as the version it supported when released is long past its shelf-date?

With regard to unrecognised PDF fonts that are not embedded in the document, is it just simply a matter of adding into the FONTS for PageStream the fonts from an external font website/source to allow the fonts to be viewable properly, as intended by the author of a PDF?

Is there a way to make your toolbox/toolbar more adaptable. I see an option to make it horizontal block/vertical block etc., but I would prefer to be able to add in spacers or additional buttons or separate the flyout tools so they are visible all the time in the toolbar rather than having to click/hold and move to select the tool I want.

I seem to remember mentioning this a few years ago, and referred to WordWorth which had a floating toolbar which had the option to add/remove numerous tools from/to it's toolbar and had an option for 'cool-look' (with no border line between individual tools - smooth finish) which I don't really like, but had the option for better colour icons - large or small, which help a lot in determining which tool you are choosing/needing straight away and has the immediacy that some PageStream tools don't, unfortunately. That said, there are many advantages that PageStream has over WordWorth - the main one being is that it is still being supported, though the steps forward with PageStream at the moment are very small for the Amiga, never mind the other platforms.

PageStream is a major step higher than WordWorth ever was, as it only ever supported 256 colours, and didn't even have a jpeg filter, but it was a powerful program for what it was, and deserved the praise it got, as does PageStream.

I have an HP 2500 Colour LaserJet printer, which has USB, and Centronics, and RJ45 connectivity, but is the old Postscript Colour LaserJet driver for PageStream the best, and only driver that supports this printer, as I don't see it mentioned specifically in either the Amiga or PC supported printer folders?

Thanks for your efforts, and bye for now,

Neil

Op 8-5-2012 4:15, Amigaman schreef:
> --- In PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com, PageStream Support<deron@...> wrote:
>> Just busy fixing problems with the server.
>>
>> Downloading should be restored now.
>>
>> Deron
>>
> Hi Deron,
>
> The main problem with the PageStream download problem, which it seems was a server problem, appears to have been resolved by you.
>
> However, I have on my download files the authority to download Windows version PageStream 4.1.5.8 Windows, which was released on 2003-03-13, and is supposed to be 7,239,949 bytes in size, but I do not seem to be able to access that download file, is this something you are aware of, or is it something new that needs fixing?
>
> Thanks for your efforts on fixing the download problem.
>
> [...]

Strange Neil,

I am able to download 5.0.5.8 (Basic and Pro), and, yes, 4.1.5.8: File
not found! Please report this outage to support@pagestream.org! -2

Also the second 4.1.5.8 download is unavailable.

Anyway, there is a problem, at least for you, why you cannot download
the newer version.

Theo

--
PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.2 and PySide 1.1.0
AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM

Op 8-5-2012 4:15, Amigaman schreef:
> [...]
>
> I have had some use out of the Windows version of PageStream, but I still basically prefer the Amiga version, I think it's just the intuition of the Amiga OS that helps to make it that bit easier to use overall, but the speed of the PC CPU does help as well, just a pity the Amiga doesn't have that blistering speed in an available CPU for the OS itself.

Yes, this takes times, intuition-wise!

> I tried to alter the preferences in the Windows version of PageStream and stop snap-to-grid, but it does not seem to work, or at least not work in the same way as the Amiga version. I tried to 'nudge' the image file I was importing, and that seemed to work, both shifted, and unshifted, but when actually placing the image it still seemed to snap-to-grid. Is there some other way of deselecting this feature or am I doing it wrong somehow?

Hmm, seems to be working here.
Just in the menu, select the: Layout/Snap To Grid or not. Adjusting with
Set Grid...

Not sure what you mean with shifted and unshifted. Ah, (looking in
preferences/Drawing): nudging. Never used that, but now looking into
that. Ah! Works. Even with Snap To Grid selected or not.

I wonder which version of PGS (Windows) you are working! 4.1.5.8 not,
you (and I) couldn't download, 5.0.5.8 also (you have only 'the
authority to download Windows version PageStream 4.1.5.8').
Mystery!

Placing a picture, is still not in the center (Preferences/Files: Place
Graphic in center). It has an offset. When I do an Align (both center),
it is replaced at the good spot.

Theo

> [...]
>
> Thanks for your efforts, and bye for now,
>
> Neil
>
--
PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.2 and PySide 1.1.0
AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM

On 5/8/12 1:15 AM, Theo Zweers wrote:
> I wonder which version of PGS (Windows) you are working! 4.1.5.8 not,
> you (and I) couldn't download, 5.0.5.8 also (you have only 'the
> authority to download Windows version PageStream 4.1.5.8'). Mystery!

No, I'm pretty sure he can download 5.0.5.8, but what is wants to know
is why he can not _also_ download 4.1.5.8.

> Placing a picture, is still not in the center (Preferences/Files:
> Place Graphic in center). It has an offset. When I do an Align (both
> center), it is replaced at the good spot. Theo

It should place it in the center of the _window_, not the center of the
page.

Deron

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

On 5/7/12 11:59 PM, Theo Zweers wrote:
> Op 8-5-2012 4:15, Amigaman schreef:
>>
>> Hi Deron,
>>
>> The main problem with the PageStream download problem, which it seems was a server problem, appears to have been resolved by you.
>>
>> However, I have on my download files the authority to download Windows version PageStream 4.1.5.8 Windows, which was released on 2003-03-13, and is supposed to be 7,239,949 bytes in size, but I do not seem to be able to access that download file, is this something you are aware of, or is it something new that needs fixing?

Something very old, but new. I'm still investigating but it doesn't look
good.

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Op 8-5-2012 16:20, PageStream Support schreef:
> On 5/8/12 1:15 AM, Theo Zweers wrote:
>> I wonder which version of PGS (Windows) you are working! 4.1.5.8 not,
>> you (and I) couldn't download, 5.0.5.8 also (you have only 'the
>> authority to download Windows version PageStream 4.1.5.8'). Mystery!
> No, I'm pretty sure he can download 5.0.5.8, but what is wants to know
> is why he can not _also_ download 4.1.5.8.

Hi Deron!

Ah! I suppose that must be it.

>
>> Placing a picture, is still not in the center (Preferences/Files:
>> Place Graphic in center). It has an offset. When I do an Align (both
>> center), it is replaced at the good spot. Theo
> It should place it in the center of the _window_, not the center of the
> page.

It does not place it in the center of the window, I assume.
And why should it (if it does).
Exaggerated: I zoom out on a document, that it is small (lots of
pasteboard to see). I place it. Now it could be in the pasteboard-zone,
and not on the page.

What I want, need, is to place it correctly at the place I want it.
For instance: I make a new insert inside a drawing (vector). It is
exactly as big as the old one.
What I do, is to select the old insert, delete it, and paste the
(earlier copied) insert at its new place.
If it does, what I think it should do, it is exactly at the old place.
But in this 5.0.5.8 version (and some older versions) it is a little
offset (meaning older versions of PGS did this right - right in my
opinion!).

> Deron

Theo

--
PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.2 and PySide 1.1.0
AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM

>>> Placing a picture, is still not in the center (Preferences/Files:
>>> Place Graphic in center). It has an offset. When I do an Align (both
>>> center), it is replaced at the good spot. Theo
>> It should place it in the center of the _window_, not the center of the
>> page.
> It does not place it in the center of the window, I assume.
> And why should it (if it does).
> Exaggerated: I zoom out on a document, that it is small (lots of
> pasteboard to see). I place it. Now it could be in the pasteboard-zone,
> and not on the page.
>
> What I want, need, is to place it correctly at the place I want it.
> For instance: I make a new insert inside a drawing (vector). It is
> exactly as big as the old one.
> What I do, is to select the old insert, delete it, and paste the
> (earlier copied) insert at its new place.
> If it does, what I think it should do, it is exactly at the old place.
> But in this 5.0.5.8 version (and some older versions) it is a little
> offset (meaning older versions of PGS did this right - right in my
> opinion!).
>
> Theo
>

The "paste in center of window" option has a few caveats. It won't place
it off the page, if the item is bigger than the page it will size it to
fit the page, and the rulers might obscure part of the page but those
parts are still considered part of the visible page.

If what you want to do is replace an item with another, then you should
use the Replace Graphic script. Select the item to replace, choose the
script, choose the item to replace it with. It should delete the old and
place the new item in the same location and size as the old.

If you want to place it on the page as you see fit, then turn off "Paste
in center" and then you should be able to click or click-drag to define
either the upper-left corner, or the corner and width/height when pasting.

So maybe I am missing what the problem is?

Deron

--
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Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Op 8-5-2012 16:53, PageStream Support schreef:
>>>> Placing a picture, is still not in the center (Preferences/Files:
>>>> Place Graphic in center). It has an offset. When I do an Align (both
>>>> center), it is replaced at the good spot. Theo
>>> It should place it in the center of the _window_, not the center of the
>>> page.
>> It does not place it in the center of the window, I assume.
>> And why should it (if it does).
>> Exaggerated: I zoom out on a document, that it is small (lots of
>> pasteboard to see). I place it. Now it could be in the pasteboard-zone,
>> and not on the page.
>>
>> What I want, need, is to place it correctly at the place I want it.
>> For instance: I make a new insert inside a drawing (vector). It is
>> exactly as big as the old one.
>> What I do, is to select the old insert, delete it, and paste the
>> (earlier copied) insert at its new place.
>> If it does, what I think it should do, it is exactly at the old place.
>> But in this 5.0.5.8 version (and some older versions) it is a little
>> offset (meaning older versions of PGS did this right - right in my
>> opinion!).
>>
>> Theo
>>
> The "paste in center of window" option has a few caveats. It won't place
> it off the page, if the item is bigger than the page it will size it to
> fit the page, and the rulers might obscure part of the page but those
> parts are still considered part of the visible page.
>
> If what you want to do is replace an item with another, then you should
> use the Replace Graphic script. Select the item to replace, choose the
> script, choose the item to replace it with. It should delete the old and
> place the new item in the same location and size as the old.
>
> If you want to place it on the page as you see fit, then turn off "Paste
> in center" and then you should be able to click or click-drag to define
> either the upper-left corner, or the corner and width/height when pasting.
>
> So maybe I am missing what the problem is?
>
> Deron
>

First I must make an adjustment to my first email:
What I do, is to select the old insert,//*- zoom in with the
Magnification icon in the Status bar (to get the to be replaced graphic
in center) -*, delete it, and paste the (earlier copied) insert at its
new place.

I immediately turned 'Paste In Center' off, but now I must place it
myself. No, not what I want.

I know about the feature that the item isn't bigger than the page (fits
on a page). Nice one! Only placed the item not in center.

Replace Graphic script: this needs an already saved picture. No, I copy
it, and paste it in its new place.

No, Deron, it stays: paste with an offset.
It's no biggie, I don´t need it nowadays that often anymore. But I
found, and find, it useful!
And maybe it is a Windows only bug...

Theo

--
PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.2 and PySide 1.1.0
AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM

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--- In PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com, PageStream Support
> On 5/8/12 1:15 AM, Theo Zweers wrote:
> > I wonder which version of PGS (Windows) you are working! 4.1.5.8 not,
> > you (and I) couldn't download, 5.0.5.8 also (you have only 'the
> > authority to download Windows version PageStream 4.1.5.8'). Mystery!

Theosophical Theo,

Please read my posts more carefully. How would I be able to use PageStream 5.0.5.8 for Windows - without being able to download it !!

Obviously I have access to that version!! Deron understood that, it is just 4.1.5.8 that is not accessible, and from what he who must be obeyed said .. no not you Theo, I mean Deron, he may have come across a bigger problem than he'd have liked to find with the PageStream 4.1.5.8 file it seems.

Bye for now,

Neil

Well Neil,

I do not know what everyone uses, not the platform and not which PGS
version.
And if, like you do, also use the name Amigaman, then it is more
confusing. For the next weeks I know you have a (!) Windows version, and
5.0.5.8. But after that...
You could read my response also like that.

Theoretical Theo

Oh, and if Deron wants that version (4.1.5., he can write me privately
(and you too, Neil, I now know you have a genuine Windows PGS, if your
email-provider allows that size)!

Op 8-5-2012 23:29, Amigaman schreef:
>
> --- In PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com, PageStream Support
>> On 5/8/12 1:15 AM, Theo Zweers wrote:
>>> I wonder which version of PGS (Windows) you are working! 4.1.5.8 not,
>>> you (and I) couldn't download, 5.0.5.8 also (you have only 'the
>>> authority to download Windows version PageStream 4.1.5.8'). Mystery!
> Theosophical Theo,
>
> Please read my posts more carefully. How would I be able to use PageStream 5.0.5.8 for Windows - without being able to download it !!
>
> Obviously I have access to that version!! Deron understood that, it is just 4.1.5.8 that is not accessible, and from what he who must be obeyed said .. no not you Theo, I mean Deron, he may have come across a bigger problem than he'd have liked to find with the PageStream 4.1.5.8 file it seems.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Neil
>
>

--
PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.2 and PySide 1.1.0
AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM

Hi Neal,

On 04May2012, at 9:05 PM, admfubar@gmail.com wrote:

> <<snip>>
>
> What alternatives to Pagestream are others here considering?

On a Mac OS X, Snow Leopard, I'm using Swift Publisher 2. Easy to use, no troubles with printing. Not as sophisticated as PageStream on many accounts, but reliable.

Don Green Dragon
fergdc@Shaw.ca

Scribus is less buggy than Pagestream but it will not embed fonts in PDF export that it erroneously thinks are not embeddable. Drop cap support is incomplete but usable. I'm using it with substitute fonts.

Swift Publisher 3 still has no drop cap support.

Pages is a DTP if it's started with a "layout template" but some of its design features are as bad as bugs. It has no drop cap support and the workarounds are unworkable in DTP mode.

I tried OpenOffice.org Writer but drop cap support is broken.

iStudio Publisher (now in version 1.1. will have named styles in version 1.5 and drop cap support in the indefinite future.

I'm almost seriously considering going back to PagePlus 8 or Microsoft Publisher 2000, which I now have installed in Windows NT 4 in VirtualBox. A Google search led me tohttp://www.mac-forums.com/forums/switcher-hangout/101662-mac-equivalent-serif-page-plus-dtp.html which pretty much describes where I'm coming from.

[ As you may have guessed, I need drop cap support. ]

On May 11, 2012, at 2:05 AM, Don Green Dragon wrote:

> Hi Neal,
>
> On 04May2012, at 9:05 PM, admfubar@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> <<snip>>
>>
>> What alternatives to Pagestream are others here considering?
>
> On a Mac OS X, Snow Leopard, I'm using Swift Publisher 2. Easy to use, no troubles with printing. Not as sophisticated as PageStream on many accounts, but reliable.
>
> Don Green Dragon
> fergdc@Shaw.ca

--
Martin B. Brilliant - mbrilliant@alum.mit.edu
Mac OS X version 10.6.8
PageStream (non-pro) 5.0.5.8

On Fri, 11 May 2012 15:42:59 -0400, Martin B. Brilliant <mbrilliant@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

>
> Scribus is less buggy than Pagestream but it will not embed fonts in PDF export that it erroneously thinks are not embeddable. Drop cap support is >incomplete but usable. I'm using it with substitute fonts.
>
> Swift Publisher 3 still has no drop cap support.
>
> Pages is a DTP if it's started with a "layout template" but some of its design features are as bad as bugs. It has no drop cap support and the workarounds >are unworkable in DTP mode.
>
> I tried OpenOffice.org Writer but drop cap support is broken.
Have you tried LibreOffice? http://www.libreoffice.org
OpenOffice should be considered a dead project. Sun/Oracle dropped the ball with updating it, and the dumping of it on the Apache foundation didnt help as most of the OOo developers had left for LibreOffice.
Drop caps are working LibreOffice, but keep in mind for the drop cap to work the lines need to wrap. You may want to double check that in OOo.

>
>
> iStudio Publisher (now in version 1.1. will have named styles in version 1.5 and drop cap support in the indefinite future.
>
> I'm almost seriously considering going back to PagePlus 8 or Microsoft Publisher 2000, which I now have installed in Windows NT 4 in VirtualBox. A >Google search led me tohttp://www.mac-forums.com/forums/switcher-hangout/101662-mac-equivalent-serif-page-plus-dtp.html which pretty much >describes where I'm coming from.
>

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