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2012-05-27 21:23:55 CT	#1
Brent W. Santin From: Canada Registered: 2007-11-02 Posts: 105	Hi, I know that one can fade out the edges of a bitmap in pagestream if it has an alpha channel. But is it possible to apply a gradient fill to an imported bitmap with an opacity setting that will allow it to made an image fade out at the edges? This page on the PageStream site seems to imply that: http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1241 It says: "For those PhotoShop-like effects, you can now apply a gradient or radial blend mask to pictures/EPS/PDF/ and Drawings. These objects will then appear to fade into the page beneath it. Of course, no update is complete without improvements to the drawing tools." I haven't been able to get it to work.

2012-05-27 21:23:55 CT

Brent W. Santin
From: Canada
Registered: 2007-11-02
Posts: 105

Hi,

I know that one can fade out the edges of a bitmap in pagestream if it has an alpha channel.

But is it possible to apply a gradient fill to an imported bitmap with an opacity setting that will allow it to made an image fade out at the edges?

This page on the PageStream site seems to imply that:
http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1241

It says: "For those PhotoShop-like effects, you can now apply a gradient or radial blend mask to pictures/EPS/PDF/ and Drawings. These objects will then appear to fade into the page beneath it. Of course, no update is complete without improvements to the drawing tools."

I haven't been able to get it to work.

2012-05-27 23:41:18 CT	#2
T.J. Zweers From: Netherlands Registered: 2006-02-07 Posts: 331	Hi Brent, maybe this is meant as something simpler. You can have a picture (bitmap) or drawing (vector), where you place a (vector) shape on. This shape you can give a gradient (or radial blend). If you turn off the stroke (outline), and fiddle with opacity... Something like Blending on:http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=802 Or:http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1217 Anybody else? Theo Op 27-5-2012 23:23, Brent schreef: > Hi, > > I know that one can fade out the edges of a bitmap in pagestream if it has an alpha channel. > > But is it possible to apply a gradient fill to an imported bitmap with an opacity setting that will allow it to made an image fade out at the edges? > > This page on the PageStream site seems to imply that: >http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1241 > > It says: "For those PhotoShop-like effects, you can now apply a gradient or radial blend mask to pictures/EPS/PDF/ and Drawings. These objects will then appear to fade into the page beneath it. Of course, no update is complete without improvements to the drawing tools." > > I haven't been able to get it to work. > -- PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.2 and PySide 1.1.0 AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM

2012-05-27 23:41:18 CT

T.J. Zweers
From: Netherlands
Registered: 2006-02-07
Posts: 331

Hi Brent,

maybe this is meant as something simpler.
You can have a picture (bitmap) or drawing (vector), where you place a
(vector) shape on. This shape you can give a gradient (or radial blend).
If you turn off the stroke (outline), and fiddle with opacity...
Something like Blending on:http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=802
Or:http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1217

Anybody else?

Theo

Op 27-5-2012 23:23, Brent schreef:
> Hi,
>
> I know that one can fade out the edges of a bitmap in pagestream if it has an alpha channel.
>
> But is it possible to apply a gradient fill to an imported bitmap with an opacity setting that will allow it to made an image fade out at the edges?
>
> This page on the PageStream site seems to imply that:
>http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1241
>
> It says: "For those PhotoShop-like effects, you can now apply a gradient or radial blend mask to pictures/EPS/PDF/ and Drawings. These objects will then appear to fade into the page beneath it. Of course, no update is complete without improvements to the drawing tools."
>
> I haven't been able to get it to work.
>

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2012-05-27 22:23:43 CT	#3
Brent W. Santin From: Canada Registered: 2007-11-02 Posts: 105	Oh, I thought the function might be able to make the bitmap fade out into the background (transparency on edges of bitmap). Maybe someone knows for sure. Brent --- In PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com, Theo Zweers <tjzwrs@...> wrote: > > Hi Brent, > > maybe this is meant as something simpler. > You can have a picture (bitmap) or drawing (vector), where you place a > (vector) shape on. This shape you can give a gradient (or radial blend). > If you turn off the stroke (outline), and fiddle with opacity... > Something like Blending on:http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=802 > Or:http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1217 > > Anybody else? > > Theo > > > Op 27-5-2012 23:23, Brent schreef: > > Hi, > > > > I know that one can fade out the edges of a bitmap in pagestream if it has an alpha channel. > > > > But is it possible to apply a gradient fill to an imported bitmap with an opacity setting that will allow it to made an image fade out at the edges? > > > > This page on the PageStream site seems to imply that: > >http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1241 > > > > It says: "For those PhotoShop-like effects, you can now apply a gradient or radial blend mask to pictures/EPS/PDF/ and Drawings. These objects will then appear to fade into the page beneath it. Of course, no update is complete without improvements to the drawing tools." > > > > I haven't been able to get it to work. > > > > > -- > PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.2 and PySide 1.1.0 > AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM >

2012-05-27 22:23:43 CT

Brent W. Santin
From: Canada
Registered: 2007-11-02
Posts: 105

Oh, I thought the function might be able to make the bitmap fade out into the background (transparency on edges of bitmap).

Maybe someone knows for sure.

Brent

--- In PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com, Theo Zweers <tjzwrs@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Brent,
>
> maybe this is meant as something simpler.
> You can have a picture (bitmap) or drawing (vector), where you place a
> (vector) shape on. This shape you can give a gradient (or radial blend).
> If you turn off the stroke (outline), and fiddle with opacity...
> Something like Blending on:http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=802
> Or:http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1217
>
> Anybody else?
>
> Theo
>
>
> Op 27-5-2012 23:23, Brent schreef:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I know that one can fade out the edges of a bitmap in pagestream if it has an alpha channel.
> >
> > But is it possible to apply a gradient fill to an imported bitmap with an opacity setting that will allow it to made an image fade out at the edges?
> >
> > This page on the PageStream site seems to imply that:
> >http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1241
> >
> > It says: "For those PhotoShop-like effects, you can now apply a gradient or radial blend mask to pictures/EPS/PDF/ and Drawings. These objects will then appear to fade into the page beneath it. Of course, no update is complete without improvements to the drawing tools."
> >
> > I haven't been able to get it to work.
> >
>
>
> --
> PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.2 and PySide 1.1.0
> AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM
>

2012-05-28 08:21:41 CT	#4
Tim Doty From: United States Registered: 2006-02-06 Posts: 2939	The way to do a fade like you are asking is to use photoshop, the gimp, something of that sort, do a feathered select and delete content leaving the transparent background. You will need to use a graphic format that supports transparency, such as png. If you don't actually need it to be a transparency fade, but "fade" into the page color you can fake it in PageStream by overlaying an object that has the appropriate gradient fill from a transparent center to the page color at the border. Tim Doty On May 27, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Brent wrote: > Oh, I thought the function might be able to make the bitmap fade out into the background (transparency on edges of bitmap). > > Maybe someone knows for sure. > > Brent > > --- In PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com, Theo Zweers <tjzwrs@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Brent, > > > > maybe this is meant as something simpler. > > You can have a picture (bitmap) or drawing (vector), where you place a > > (vector) shape on. This shape you can give a gradient (or radial blend). > > If you turn off the stroke (outline), and fiddle with opacity... > > Something like Blending on:http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=802 > > Or:http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1217 > > > > Anybody else? > > > > Theo > > > > > > Op 27-5-2012 23:23, Brent schreef: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I know that one can fade out the edges of a bitmap in pagestream if it has an alpha channel. > > > > > > But is it possible to apply a gradient fill to an imported bitmap with an opacity setting that will allow it to made an image fade out at the edges? > > > > > > This page on the PageStream site seems to imply that: > > >http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1241 > > > > > > It says: "For those PhotoShop-like effects, you can now apply a gradient or radial blend mask to pictures/EPS/PDF/ and Drawings. These objects will then appear to fade into the page beneath it. Of course, no update is complete without improvements to the drawing tools." > > > > > > I haven't been able to get it to work. > > > > > > > > > -- > > PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.2 and PySide 1.1.0 > > AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM > > > >

2012-05-28 08:21:41 CT

Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

The way to do a fade like you are asking is to use photoshop, the gimp, something of that sort, do a feathered select and delete content leaving the transparent background. You will need to use a graphic format that supports transparency, such as png.

If you don't actually need it to be a transparency fade, but "fade" into the page color you can fake it in PageStream by overlaying an object that has the appropriate gradient fill from a transparent center to the page color at the border.

Tim Doty

On May 27, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Brent wrote:

> Oh, I thought the function might be able to make the bitmap fade out into the background (transparency on edges of bitmap).
>
> Maybe someone knows for sure.
>
> Brent
>
> --- In PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com, Theo Zweers <tjzwrs@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Brent,
> >
> > maybe this is meant as something simpler.
> > You can have a picture (bitmap) or drawing (vector), where you place a
> > (vector) shape on. This shape you can give a gradient (or radial blend).
> > If you turn off the stroke (outline), and fiddle with opacity...
> > Something like Blending on:http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=802
> > Or:http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1217
> >
> > Anybody else?
> >
> > Theo
> >
> >
> > Op 27-5-2012 23:23, Brent schreef:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I know that one can fade out the edges of a bitmap in pagestream if it has an alpha channel.
> > >
> > > But is it possible to apply a gradient fill to an imported bitmap with an opacity setting that will allow it to made an image fade out at the edges?
> > >
> > > This page on the PageStream site seems to imply that:
> > >http://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1241
> > >
> > > It says: "For those PhotoShop-like effects, you can now apply a gradient or radial blend mask to pictures/EPS/PDF/ and Drawings. These objects will then appear to fade into the page beneath it. Of course, no update is complete without improvements to the drawing tools."
> > >
> > > I haven't been able to get it to work.
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.2 and PySide 1.1.0
> > AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM
> >
>
>

2012-05-28 08:48:17 CT	#5
Tim Doty From: United States Registered: 2006-02-06 Posts: 2939	Hi Brent On May 27, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Brent wrote: > Hi, > > I know that one can fade out the edges of a bitmap in pagestream if it has an alpha channel. > > But is it possible to apply a gradient fill to an imported bitmap with an opacity setting that will allow it to made an image fade out at the edges? I thought not, but I was wrong. Mask a graphic, then set the mask options. 1. Import bitmap graphic 2. menu: object > mask > generate mask 3. menu: object > mask > mask options… 4. set the options as desired 5. click ok I recommend starting with 100% to 0%, blend of shape and sufficient inset to get the effect you want. Changing the default taper from linear provides a different progression for the blend. Tim Doty From thoromyr@mac.com Mon May 28 07:12:43 2012 Return-Path: <thoromyr@mac.com> X-Sender: thoromyr@mac.com X-Apparently-To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 84751 invoked from network); 28 May 2012 14:12:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m15.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 May 2012 14:12:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO nk11p99mm-asmtpout007.mac.com) (17.158.233.22 by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 May 2012 14:12:43 -0000 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 X-Received: from [10.0.1.190] (64-15-81-224-cablemodem-roll.fidnet.com [64.15.81.224]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp997.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0M4Q00J37KT5IM90@nk11p03mm-asmtp997.mac.com> for PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 28 May 2012 14:12:43 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7580,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions 12-05-28_02:2012-05-21,2012-05-28,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policyÞfault score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore% phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1205280139 In-reply-to: <3833288B-C9C7-4169-AF7B-B52460332C16@mac.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 09:12:48 -0500 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <57BAEA71-520D-43BB-8E74-72803E8D6D52@mac.com> References: <jpu61b+571b@eGroups.com> <3833288B-C9C7-4169-AF7B-B52460332C16@mac.com> To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Originating-IP: 17.158.233.228 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Tim Doty <thoromyr@mac.com> Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Fade out edges of bitmaps with gradient fill tool? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u39834679; y=OC8RY2R2MPHriPoxLhwdnHRIVuOAGxXxixL758pl8w1URV8 X-Yahoo-Profile: neinspam And this is documented on the website athttp://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=790 The main issue I have found is that the shape blends show on screen (and presumably print) as radial blends. On the other handhttp://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1217 says (at the very bottom) > One last trick with text. Create a text frame or frameless text and fill it with several lines of text. With the Object tool, select the text and chooseMake Drawing from the Drawing submenu in the Object menu. Now choose Mask Options and set a gradient blend, with a start opacity of 80% and an end opacity of 30% and an angle of 90 degrees. But it doesn't work: the Mask menu items are ghosted when you do make drawing or convert to path. On May 28, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Tim Doty wrote: > Hi Brent > > On May 27, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Brent wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I know that one can fade out the edges of a bitmap in pagestream if it has an alpha channel. >> >> But is it possible to apply a gradient fill to an imported bitmap with an opacity setting that will allow it to made an image fade out at the edges? > > I thought not, but I was wrong. Mask a graphic, then set the mask options. > > 1. Import bitmap graphic > 2. menu: object > mask > generate mask > 3. menu: object > mask > mask options… > 4. set the options as desired > 5. click ok > > I recommend starting with 100% to 0%, blend of shape and sufficient inset to get the effect you want. Changing the default taper from linear provides a different progression for the blend. > > Tim Doty > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

2012-05-28 08:48:17 CT

Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

Hi Brent

On May 27, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Brent wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I know that one can fade out the edges of a bitmap in pagestream if it has an alpha channel.
>
> But is it possible to apply a gradient fill to an imported bitmap with an opacity setting that will allow it to made an image fade out at the edges?

I thought not, but I was wrong. Mask a graphic, then set the mask options.

1. Import bitmap graphic
2. menu: object > mask > generate mask
3. menu: object > mask > mask options…
4. set the options as desired
5. click ok

I recommend starting with 100% to 0%, blend of shape and sufficient inset to get the effect you want. Changing the default taper from linear provides a different progression for the blend.

Tim Doty
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And this is documented on the website athttp://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=790

The main issue I have found is that the shape blends show on screen (and presumably print) as radial blends.

On the other handhttp://pagestream.org/?action=Documents&id=1217 says (at the very bottom)

> One last trick with text. Create a text frame or frameless text and fill it with several lines of text. With the Object tool, select the text and chooseMake Drawing from the Drawing submenu in the Object menu. Now choose Mask Options and set a gradient blend, with a start opacity of 80% and an end opacity of 30% and an angle of 90 degrees.

But it doesn't work: the Mask menu items are ghosted when you do make drawing or convert to path.

On May 28, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Tim Doty wrote:

> Hi Brent
>
> On May 27, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Brent wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I know that one can fade out the edges of a bitmap in pagestream if it has an alpha channel.
>>
>> But is it possible to apply a gradient fill to an imported bitmap with an opacity setting that will allow it to made an image fade out at the edges?
>
> I thought not, but I was wrong. Mask a graphic, then set the mask options.
>
> 1. Import bitmap graphic
> 2. menu: object > mask > generate mask
> 3. menu: object > mask > mask options…
> 4. set the options as desired
> 5. click ok
>
> I recommend starting with 100% to 0%, blend of shape and sufficient inset to get the effect you want. Changing the default taper from linear provides a different progression for the blend.
>
> Tim Doty
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

2012-05-28 16:37:30 CT	#6
T.J. Zweers From: Netherlands Registered: 2006-02-07 Posts: 331	Op 28-5-2012 15:48, Tim Doty schreef: > Hi Brent > > On May 27, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Brent wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I know that one can fade out the edges of a bitmap in pagestream if it has an alpha channel. >> >> But is it possible to apply a gradient fill to an imported bitmap with an opacity setting that will allow it to made an image fade out at the edges? > I thought not, but I was wrong. Mask a graphic, then set the mask options. > > 1. Import bitmap graphic > 2. menu: object> mask> generate mask > 3. menu: object> mask> mask options… > 4. set the options as desired > 5. click ok > > I recommend starting with 100% to 0%, blend of shape and sufficient inset to get the effect you want. Changing the default taper from linear provides a different progression for the blend. > > Tim Doty Thought to know a lot about PGS (not all!). Never saw this. Many thanks! Theo -- PageStream Pro 5.0.5.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bits (Dutch), Python 2.7.2 and PySide 1.1.0 AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor at 2.70 GHz and 4 GB RAM

2012-05-28 16:37:30 CT

T.J. Zweers
From: Netherlands
Registered: 2006-02-07
Posts: 331

Op 28-5-2012 15:48, Tim Doty schreef:
> Hi Brent
>
> On May 27, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Brent wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I know that one can fade out the edges of a bitmap in pagestream if it has an alpha channel.
>>
>> But is it possible to apply a gradient fill to an imported bitmap with an opacity setting that will allow it to made an image fade out at the edges?
> I thought not, but I was wrong. Mask a graphic, then set the mask options.
>
> 1. Import bitmap graphic
> 2. menu: object> mask> generate mask
> 3. menu: object> mask> mask options…
> 4. set the options as desired
> 5. click ok
>
> I recommend starting with 100% to 0%, blend of shape and sufficient inset to get the effect you want. Changing the default taper from linear provides a different progression for the blend.
>
> Tim Doty

Thought to know a lot about PGS (not all!). Never saw this.

Many thanks!

Theo

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2012-05-29 11:22:40 CT	#7
Brent W. Santin From: Canada Registered: 2007-11-02 Posts: 105	Thanks Tim! Both your suggestions were very clever and will work for the type of fade I need. I'll have to print out your instructions and insert them into the paper copy of my PageStream manual for future reference! - Brent

2012-05-29 11:22:40 CT

Brent W. Santin
From: Canada
Registered: 2007-11-02
Posts: 105

Thanks Tim! Both your suggestions were very clever and will work for the type of fade I need.

I'll have to print out your instructions and insert them into the paper copy of my PageStream manual for future reference!

- Brent

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