Neil Pearson
From: United Kingdom
Registered: 2006-04-02
Posts: 132
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Hello Rick,
I was reading what you were discussing, and thought I'd throw in my idea.
I was an avid user of the Amiga Classic systems, and still have them though I generally don't use them as I have a MorphOS v3.7 system that runs Pagestream 4.1.5.6 very well under its 68k emulation (Trance).
I never thought I would own :-
1. Apple hardware 2. A system that wasn't an Amiga labelled system
But, I have to say that for the most part, the MacMini has cost me less (£60 for the hardware + £70 for the keyfile) and in the meantime I bought and sold a few of them, and have made my money back about three-fold so my MorphOS system has worked out basically free, and I have even been able to buy/register a Powerbook - the only actual laptop for an Amiga type system, apart from the iBook, and other Apple hardware converted for MorphOS use.
The Apple Wireless options are now working as they should under MorphOS, so it really is an option for you to consider, and my word does it work at a fast speed compared to the Classic Amiga systems. Documents that took ages for the progress meter to complete will just flash up on screen and are then gone, and the document is loaded. Even large filesize images load in a few seconds, and of course you have 1GB of RAM to play with - on basically an Amiga system, so you can do loads with that. There is Scandal for scanning as long as you have certain scanners. I have an Epson 1640SU Perfection that runs really well - Scandal is of course free, and part of the MOS system updates. The author is also working on a Printing system, based around CUPS, I believe, and the Beta of the system runs really well, and I can print anything out with my HP 2500 Colour Laserjet Postscript enabled USB/Parallel/Ethernet printer.
It's just a thought, and something you may want to consider. I know I was never going to buy MorphOS, but OS4 was a real disappointment for Classic hardware and MorphOS just seemed worthwhile trying for me, and I really haven't looked back. There are some shortfalls like no 'real' flashplayer, though there is the open flashplayer that works, and handles many sites OK.
Though there are some missing neat features that you get under Windows, and other more up to date OS's/hardware, but OWB is a great browser, and is hard to tell apart from many of the modern more well established platforms/OS's.
If you've got the hardware for it, then you can of course try it out for free, just download the ISO file and burn it to disc. It runs full speed for 30 minutes I believe, but I've been registered for MOS for a few years now.
Anyway, I'll leave it up to you, but Pagestream works nicely under MOS.
Neil Pearson
On 08/01/2015, you wrote:
> --------------------------------------------+ > On Wed, 1/7/15, Tim Doty thoromyr@mac.com [PageStreamSupport] > <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still Alive? > To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 7:36 PM > > Thank you Tim. > Sadly, it appears to be beyond me. Perhaps with a few more years of using Linux, I'll acquire > enough knowledge to know what all that means and how to use it. Right now, I do not possess > the necessary understanding, which is a truly sad situation. I'm lost without PageStream, and > will probably be so for some time to come. > Thanks again. > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, I remoted into a linux system with PgS > installed and have refreshed my memory. You can use the > _ldd_ command (as in _ldd PageStream5_ in the PgS > directory) to see the dependencies, but_ > > > > The _ReadMe.Linux.txt_ file says: > > > -- Several 64 bit Linux distributions do not include > liblinc for 32 bit apps. > > > You need to copy this file from a 32 bit version of > your distribution to your 64 bit > > > installation. The file can be found usually at > (/opt/gnome/libs/liblinc.so.1.0.0 or > > > /usr/local/lib/liblinc.so.1.0.0) to the same place that > other 32 bit libraries > > > are stored on your system (the same place as the > original file is found is > > > usually fine) and then as superuser type "ldconfig > -v" in a shell. > > > > > > > and dependencies you may encounter: > > > -- Where various dependencies can be found > > > glib 2.0 www.gnome.org > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/glib/ > > > gtk+ 2.0 www.gnome.org > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gtk+/ > > > pango 1.0 www.gnome.org > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/pango/ > > > libgnome2 1.0 www.gnome.org > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libgnome2/ > > > libgnomeui2 1.0 www.gnome.org > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libgnomeui2/ > > > freetype2 2.0 www.freetype.org > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3157 > > > fontconfig 2.0 www.fontconfig.org > http://freedesktop.org/Software/FontConfig2_2 > > > lcms 1.0 www.littlecms.com > http://www.littlecms.com/downloads.htm > > > > > > > Hope that helps! > > > > > On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Rick Buxton > rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport] > <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > On Wed, 1/7/15, Tim Doty thoromyr@mac.com > [PageStreamSupport] > <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still > Alive? > > > To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 6:29 PM > > > > > > Thank you for the reply. I have placed all the > PageStream files in a folder and have tried clicking on the > "run PageStream" icon, with no results. As for a > terminal, yes, I can open it, but absolutely clueless as to > what I should do with it. I am far from computer savvy - I > just want to click something and go to work. > > > > > > I have used "Wine" which is an > Windows-to-Linux interpreter, from what I understand, and am > able to run the Windows version, sort of. Palettes and > toolboxes disappear and can not be brought back without > shutting PS down and restarting, and the menu text is so > small that I have literally used a magnifying glass to read > it - I have found no way to embiggen* the text. > > > > > > I have never found a program as versatile as PageStream > and am not ashamed to say I love what it does and how it > does it. PageStream makes me look like a genius - which I am > not. > > > > > > I am more than happy to purchase the Linux version, but > not until I'm sure I can make it work. > > > > > > Deron did include a text file of how to > "install" PS, but I was hopelessly lost with all > the Linux technolingo. > > > > > > Thanks again, Rick > > > > > > *Simpson's reference > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although PgS has some issues on linux, it should > > > run just fine. I do so from time to time. If you have > the > > > download then just unzip it wherever you want and run > the > > > _run page stream_ script (or whatever it is called, > I > > > forget and don_t have a linux box in front of me). > > > > > > > > > > > > That should just work. If it doesn_t, try opening > a > > > terminal window and executing it from there which has > the > > > benefit of getting information such as errors. > > > Unfortunately, Ubuntu has tried so hard to copy > Win8_s > > > move to a phone interface I_m not sure how you would > get a > > > terminal window open on it, or what their screwing > around > > > with the detaching menus would do to PageStream. But > I > > > assure you, any problems starting PgS are more likely > to be > > > Ubuntu_s fault than PageStream_s. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are in a position to do so, I recommend using > Mint > > > with Mate as the interface. Its roughly what Ubuntu > used to > > > be. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Doty > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 7, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Rick Buxton > > > rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport] > > > <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > On Wed, 1/7/15, > ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com > > > [PageStreamSupport] > > > <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream > Still > > > Alive? > > > > > > > To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 3:52 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PageStream is the most valuable and most used > program I > > > own. I have used it everyday since it was first > published. > > > Sadly, I have switched to Linux (Ubuntu) and just > don't > > > have the technical know-how to get PageStream > installed. I > > > downloaded the Demo version to see if I could install, > but > > > without success. Is there an easy way to do it, or do I > have > > > to suffer the rest of my life without PageStream. I > can > > > assure you, I will never run Windows again. I've > had it > > > with Microsoft - right up to here. [Indicates with hand > a > > > location around the throat area] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have Amiga, Mac OS9, Linux and Windows > Versions.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course I would pay for > > > > > > > a new upgrade for the Linux, Windows and MacOSX > > > > > > > versions.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deron my > > > > > > > Amigo!!... 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