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2015-01-01 10:47:55 CT #1
ezequielpartida
From: Unknown
Registered: 2007-09-18
Posts: 16

Hello Everyone!!


Is PageStream still being developed?


It's been 4 years since the last update and I don't even see bug fixes, not even cosmetic ones like the linux fill/line settings.


PageStream is a great program and it would be sad to see it go.


Best Wishes to all and Happy New Year!!


I hope to see a new rock solid version of PageStream this year!! ;-)

2015-01-01 10:56:46 CT #2
Mel Hallam
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-09
Posts: 13

I have been wondering the same exact thing. I use that program on a daily basis and it's wonderful.

Happy New Year everyone?!

On Jan 1, 2015 10:48 AM, "ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com [PageStreamSupport]" <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hello Everyone!!


Is PageStream still being developed?


It's been 4 years since the last update and I don't even see bug fixes, not even cosmetic ones like the linux fill/line settings.


PageStream is a great program and it would be sad to see it go.


Best Wishes to all and Happy New Year!!


I hope to see a new rock solid version of PageStream this year!! ;-)

2015-01-01 14:11:19 CT #3
Joseph Hogan
From: Canada
Registered: 2008-03-23
Posts: 25
I can not say that I use it often or for all the powerful features.

But, I know how it works and support from the community is great!

I have said this before, and will say it again.  I would be willing to pay for the update.

If we all pitched in $50 for an upgrade, maybe Deron word make time for updates.

But, the problem comes down to the fact that he supports all platforms, and I have doubts that the small amount of money that we could come up with would be enough for all of them.

I use aMac 95% of the time,and PS is on my Mac.

Others willing to pitch in?

Joseph

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 1, 2015, at 13:56, Mel Hallam melhallam@gmail.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I have been wondering the same exact thing. I use that program on a daily basis and it's wonderful.

Happy New Year everyone?!

On Jan 1, 2015 10:48 AM, "ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com [PageStreamSupport]" <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hello Everyone!!


Is PageStream still being developed?

 

It's been 4 years since the last update and I don't even see bug fixes, not even cosmetic ones like the linux fill/line settings.


PageStream is a great program and it would be sad to see it go.


Best Wishes to all and Happy New Year!!


I hope to see a new rock solid version of PageStream this year!! ;-)

2015-01-01 11:13:19 CT #4
Mel Hallam
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-09
Posts: 13

Definitely! I would pay for updates.

On Jan 1, 2015 11:11 AM, "Joe Hogan joehogan@gmx.com [PageStreamSupport]" <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I can not say that I use it often or for all the powerful features.

But, I know how it works and support from the community is great!

I have said this before, and will say it again.  I would be willing to pay for the update.

If we all pitched in $50 for an upgrade, maybe Deron word make time for updates.

But, the problem comes down to the fact that he supports all platforms, and I have doubts that the small amount of money that we could come up with would be enough for all of them.

I use aMac 95% of the time,and PS is on my Mac.

Others willing to pitch in?

Joseph

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 1, 2015, at 13:56, Mel Hallam melhallam@gmail.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I have been wondering the same exact thing. I use that program on a daily basis and it's wonderful.

Happy New Year everyone?!

On Jan 1, 2015 10:48 AM, "ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com [PageStreamSupport]" <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hello Everyone!!


Is PageStream still being developed?

 

It's been 4 years since the last update and I don't even see bug fixes, not even cosmetic ones like the linux fill/line settings.


PageStream is a great program and it would be sad to see it go.


Best Wishes to all and Happy New Year!!


I hope to see a new rock solid version of PageStream this year!! ;-)

2015-01-01 15:08:04 CT #5
Bart Mathias
From: United States
Registered: 2007-01-13
Posts: 320

Hello Joe

I'd pitch in if Amiga is included. But that seems unlikely.


On 01/01/2015, you wrote:

> I can not say that I use it often or for all the powerful
> features.
>
> But, I know how it works and support from the community is great!
>
> I have said this before, and will say it again. I would be
> willing to pay for the update.
>
> If we all pitched in $50 for an upgrade, maybe Deron word make
> time for updates.
>
> But, the problem comes down to the fact that he supports all
> platforms, and I have doubts that the small amount of money that
> we could come up with would be enough for all of them.
>
> I use aMac 95% of the time,and PS is on my Mac.
>
> Others willing to pitch in?
>
> Joseph
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jan 1, 2015, at 13:56, Mel Hallam melhallam@gmail.com
>> [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I have been wondering the same exact thing. I use that program
>> on a daily basis and it's wonderful.
>
>> Happy New Year everyone?!
>>
>>> On Jan 1, 2015 10:48 AM, "ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com
>>> [PageStreamSupport]" <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com>
>>> wrote:
>
>>> Hello Everyone!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is PageStream still being developed?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's been 4 years since the last update and I don't even see
>>> bug fixes, not even cosmetic ones like the linux fill/line
>>> settings.
>
>>>
>>>
>>> PageStream is a great program and it would be sad to see it go.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Wishes to all and Happy New Year!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope to see a new rock solid version of PageStream this
>>> year!! Wink
>
>>
>>


2015-01-02 12:52:55 CT #6
T.J. Zweers
From: Netherlands
Registered: 2006-02-07
Posts: 331
As I said earlier (last year? Two years ago?), yes!
I'll pay for an upgrade. I still use PGS on a daily basis.

Can I have ... or ..., and ... in the new PGS? ;-)

Theo

Joe Hogan joehogan@gmx.com [PageStreamSupport] schreef op 1-1-2015 om 20:11:
I can not say that I use it often or for all the powerful features.

But, I know how it works and support from the community is great!

I have said this before, and will say it again.  I would be willing to pay for the update.

If we all pitched in $50 for an upgrade, maybe Deron word make time for updates.

But, the problem comes down to the fact that he supports all platforms, and I have doubts that the small amount of money that we could come up with would be enough for all of them.

I use aMac 95% of the time,and PS is on my Mac.

Others willing to pitch in?

Joseph

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 1, 2015, at 13:56, Mel Hallam melhallam@gmail.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I have been wondering the same exact thing. I use that program on a daily basis and it's wonderful.

Happy New Year everyone?!

On Jan 1, 2015 10:48 AM, "ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com [PageStreamSupport]" <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hello Everyone!!


Is PageStream still being developed?

 

It's been 4 years since the last update and I don't even see bug fixes, not even cosmetic ones like the linux fill/line settings.


PageStream is a great program and it would be sad to see it go.


Best Wishes to all and Happy New Year!!


I hope to see a new rock solid version of PageStream this year!! ;-)



-- 
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2015-01-03 08:07:35 CT #7
P. Marquard
From: Denmark
Registered: 2006-10-29
Posts: 79
Happy new year!

Yes, I would pay for an upgrade/bug fix/etc.

Using Win7 64 bits.

Now-a-days I can afford it and it is a wonderful program.

P. Marquard

On 01-01-2015 20:11, Joe Hogan joehogan@gmx.com [PageStreamSupport] wrote:
I can not say that I use it often or for all the powerful features.

But, I know how it works and support from the community is great!

I have said this before, and will say it again.  I would be willing to pay for the update.

If we all pitched in $50 for an upgrade, maybe Deron word make time for updates.

But, the problem comes down to the fact that he supports all platforms, and I have doubts that the small amount of money that we could come up with would be enough for all of them.

I use aMac 95% of the time,and PS is on my Mac.

Others willing to pitch in?

Joseph

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 1, 2015, at 13:56, Mel Hallam melhallam@gmail.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I have been wondering the same exact thing. I use that program on a daily basis and it's wonderful.

Happy New Year everyone?!

On Jan 1, 2015 10:48 AM, "ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com [PageStreamSupport]" <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hello Everyone!!


Is PageStream still being developed?

 

It's been 4 years since the last update and I don't even see bug fixes, not even cosmetic ones like the linux fill/line settings.


PageStream is a great program and it would be sad to see it go.


Best Wishes to all and Happy New Year!!


I hope to see a new rock solid version of PageStream this year!! ;-)


2015-01-07 14:52:45 CT #8
ezequielpartida
From: Unknown
Registered: 2007-09-18
Posts: 16
I have Amiga, Mac OS9, Linux and Windows Versions..

Of course I would pay for a new upgrade for the Linux, Windows and MacOSX versions..

Deron my Amigo!!... I know you're doing the best you can. ;-)

Happy New Year for Everyone!!
2015-01-07 15:59:34 CT #9
Rodney Volkmar
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-10
Posts: 60
Count me in, 64 bit Linux version, Happy to pay for updates

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:52 PM, ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I have Amiga, Mac OS9, Linux and Windows Versions..

Of course I would pay for a new upgrade for the Linux, Windows and MacOSX versions..

Deron my Amigo!!... I know you're doing the best you can. ;-)

Happy New Year for Everyone!!




--
''Corporations are people. Money is free speech. War is peace. Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength. telling the truth is a revolutionary act''
2015-01-07 16:45:23 CT #10
rickbuxton
From: Unknown
Registered: 2012-06-24
Posts: 11


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On Wed, 1/7/15, ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still Alive?
To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 3:52 PM


PageStream is the most valuable and most used program I own. I have used it everyday since it was first published. Sadly, I have switched to Linux (Ubuntu) and just don't have the technical know-how to get PageStream installed. I downloaded the Demo version to see if I could install, but without success. Is there an easy way to do it, or do I have to suffer the rest of my life without PageStream. I can assure you, I will never run Windows again. I've had it with Microsoft - right up to here. [Indicates with hand a location around the throat area]











I have Amiga, Mac OS9, Linux and Windows Versions..


Of course I would pay for
a new upgrade for the Linux, Windows and MacOSX
versions..

Deron my
Amigo!!... I know you're doing the best you can. Wink

Happy New Year for
Everyone!!









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2015-01-07 19:29:52 CT #11
Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

Although PgS has some issues on linux, it should run just fine. I do so from time to time. If you have the download then just unzip it wherever you want and run the “run page stream” script (or whatever it is called, I forget and don’t have a linux box in front of me).

That should just work. If it doesn’t, try opening a terminal window and executing it from there which has the benefit of getting information such as errors. Unfortunately, Ubuntu has tried so hard to copy Win8’s move to a phone interface I’m not sure how you would get a terminal window open on it, or what their screwing around with the detaching menus would do to PageStream. But I assure you, any problems starting PgS are more likely to be Ubuntu’s fault than PageStream’s.

If you are in a position to do so, I recommend using Mint with Mate as the interface. Its roughly what Ubuntu used to be.

Tim Doty


> On Jan 7, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Rick Buxton rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 1/7/15, ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still Alive?
> To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 3:52 PM
>
>
> PageStream is the most valuable and most used program I own. I have used it everyday since it was first published. Sadly, I have switched to Linux (Ubuntu) and just don't have the technical know-how to get PageStream installed. I downloaded the Demo version to see if I could install, but without success. Is there an easy way to do it, or do I have to suffer the rest of my life without PageStream. I can assure you, I will never run Windows again. I've had it with Microsoft - right up to here. [Indicates with hand a location around the throat area]
>
> I have Amiga, Mac OS9, Linux and Windows Versions..
>
>
> Of course I would pay for
> a new upgrade for the Linux, Windows and MacOSX
> versions..
>
> Deron my
> Amigo!!... I know you're doing the best you can. Wink
>
> Happy New Year for
> Everyone!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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2015-01-07 17:53:13 CT #12
rickbuxton
From: Unknown
Registered: 2012-06-24
Posts: 11


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On Wed, 1/7/15, Tim Doty thoromyr@mac.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still Alive?
To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 6:29 PM

Thank you for the reply. I have placed all the PageStream files in a folder and have tried clicking on the "run PageStream" icon, with no results. As for a terminal, yes, I can open it, but absolutely clueless as to what I should do with it. I am far from computer savvy - I just want to click something and go to work.

I have used "Wine" which is an Windows-to-Linux interpreter, from what I understand, and am able to run the Windows version, sort of. Palettes and toolboxes disappear and can not be brought back without shutting PS down and restarting, and the menu text is so small that I have literally used a magnifying glass to read it - I have found no way to embiggen* the text.

I have never found a program as versatile as PageStream and am not ashamed to say I love what it does and how it does it. PageStream makes me look like a genius - which I am not.

I am more than happy to purchase the Linux version, but not until I'm sure I can make it work.

Deron did include a text file of how to "install" PS, but I was hopelessly lost with all the Linux technolingo.

Thanks again, Rick

*Simpson's reference








Although PgS has some issues on linux, it should
run just fine. I do so from time to time. If you have the
download then just unzip it wherever you want and run the
“run page stream” script (or whatever it is called, I
forget and don’t have a linux box in front of me).



That should just work. If it doesn’t, try opening a
terminal window and executing it from there which has the
benefit of getting information such as errors.
Unfortunately, Ubuntu has tried so hard to copy Win8’s
move to a phone interface I’m not sure how you would get a
terminal window open on it, or what their screwing around
with the detaching menus would do to PageStream. But I
assure you, any problems starting PgS are more likely to be
Ubuntu’s fault than PageStream’s.



If you are in a position to do so, I recommend using Mint
with Mate as the interface. Its roughly what Ubuntu used to
be.



Tim Doty



> On Jan 7, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Rick Buxton
rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport]
<PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>

>

> --------------------------------------------

> On Wed, 1/7/15, ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com
[PageStreamSupport]
<PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>

> Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still
Alive?

> To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 3:52 PM

>

>

> PageStream is the most valuable and most used program I
own. I have used it everyday since it was first published.
Sadly, I have switched to Linux (Ubuntu) and just don't
have the technical know-how to get PageStream installed. I
downloaded the Demo version to see if I could install, but
without success. Is there an easy way to do it, or do I have
to suffer the rest of my life without PageStream. I can
assure you, I will never run Windows again. I've had it
with Microsoft - right up to here. [Indicates with hand a
location around the throat area]

>

> I have Amiga, Mac OS9, Linux and Windows Versions..

>

>

> Of course I would pay for

> a new upgrade for the Linux, Windows and MacOSX

> versions..

>

> Deron my

> Amigo!!... I know you're doing the best you can.
Wink

>

> Happy New Year for

> Everyone!!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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2015-01-07 20:25:17 CT #13
Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

If you can get to a terminal then you can try the following. You will need to replace “Run PageStream5.sh” with whatever the actual name is. If there are spaces in the name then you can put it in double quotes like I did above.

First, you will want to change to the directory where PgS has been extracted. If that is on your desktop then that might be:

cd ~/Desktop/PageStream5

if there are spaces you can use double quotes, but what I usually do is rely on command line completion. That is, after typing “cd ~/Desk” hit the tab key. It should fill it out to “cd ~/Desktop/“ at which point you can type a little more so it is “cd ~/Desktop/Pag” and hit tab again. If hitting tab doesn’t do anything, then just hit it twice — it will show you the possible completions so you know how much more you have to type before there will be only one completion, then hit tab again. Also, don’t worry if it changes you command to something like “cd /home/rick/Desktop/“

Once you are in the directory try

./“Run PageStream5.sh"

Of course, if it starts with “Run” then you can just type “./Run” (without the quotes) and hit return, letting command line completion take care of the rest (it makes me very lazy). When you run the command from the console you get to see error messages.

Now that I think about it more, I believe there are likely some packages that Ubuntu doesn’t have installed by default that PgS needs. I’ll see what I can come up with in that regard.

Tim Doty

> On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Rick Buxton rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 1/7/15, Tim Doty thoromyr@mac.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still Alive?
> To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 6:29 PM
>
> Thank you for the reply. I have placed all the PageStream files in a folder and have tried clicking on the "run PageStream" icon, with no results. As for a terminal, yes, I can open it, but absolutely clueless as to what I should do with it. I am far from computer savvy - I just want to click something and go to work.
>
> I have used "Wine" which is an Windows-to-Linux interpreter, from what I understand, and am able to run the Windows version, sort of. Palettes and toolboxes disappear and can not be brought back without shutting PS down and restarting, and the menu text is so small that I have literally used a magnifying glass to read it - I have found no way to embiggen* the text.
>
> I have never found a program as versatile as PageStream and am not ashamed to say I love what it does and how it does it. PageStream makes me look like a genius - which I am not.
>
> I am more than happy to purchase the Linux version, but not until I'm sure I can make it work.
>
> Deron did include a text file of how to "install" PS, but I was hopelessly lost with all the Linux technolingo.
>
> Thanks again, Rick
>
> *Simpson's reference
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Although PgS has some issues on linux, it should
> run just fine. I do so from time to time. If you have the
> download then just unzip it wherever you want and run the
> “run page stream” script (or whatever it is called, I
> forget and don’t have a linux box in front of me).
>
>
>
> That should just work. If it doesn’t, try opening a
> terminal window and executing it from there which has the
> benefit of getting information such as errors.
> Unfortunately, Ubuntu has tried so hard to copy Win8’s
> move to a phone interface I’m not sure how you would get a
> terminal window open on it, or what their screwing around
> with the detaching menus would do to PageStream. But I
> assure you, any problems starting PgS are more likely to be
> Ubuntu’s fault than PageStream’s.
>
>
>
> If you are in a position to do so, I recommend using Mint
> with Mate as the interface. Its roughly what Ubuntu used to
> be.
>
>
>
> Tim Doty
>
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Rick Buxton
> rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport]
> <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --------------------------------------------
>
> > On Wed, 1/7/15, ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com
> [PageStreamSupport]
> <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still
> Alive?
>
> > To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 3:52 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > PageStream is the most valuable and most used program I
> own. I have used it everyday since it was first published.
> Sadly, I have switched to Linux (Ubuntu) and just don't
> have the technical know-how to get PageStream installed. I
> downloaded the Demo version to see if I could install, but
> without success. Is there an easy way to do it, or do I have
> to suffer the rest of my life without PageStream. I can
> assure you, I will never run Windows again. I've had it
> with Microsoft - right up to here. [Indicates with hand a
> location around the throat area]
>
> >
>
> > I have Amiga, Mac OS9, Linux and Windows Versions..
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Of course I would pay for
>
> > a new upgrade for the Linux, Windows and MacOSX
>
> > versions..
>
> >
>
> > Deron my
>
> > Amigo!!... I know you're doing the best you can.
> Wink
>
> >
>
> > Happy New Year for
>
> > Everyone!!
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2015-01-07 19:35:31 CT #14
Rodney Volkmar
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-10
Posts: 60
with Linux Mint, just decompress Pagestream into a folder and it works, no install needed, Ubuntu is a bit differant

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Tim Doty thoromyr@mac.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

If you can get to a terminal then you can try the following. You will need to replace “Run PageStream5.sh” with whatever the actual name is. If there are spaces in the name then you can put it in double quotes like I did above.

First, you will want to change to the directory where PgS has been extracted. If that is on your desktop then that might be:

cd ~/Desktop/PageStream5

if there are spaces you can use double quotes, but what I usually do is rely on command line completion. That is, after typing “cd ~/Desk” hit the tab key. It should fill it out to “cd ~/Desktop/“ at which point you can type a little more so it is “cd ~/Desktop/Pag” and hit tab again. If hitting tab doesn’t do anything, then just hit it twice — it will show you the possible completions so you know how much more you have to type before there will be only one completion, then hit tab again. Also, don’t worry if it changes you command to something like “cd /home/rick/Desktop/“

Once you are in the directory try

./“Run PageStream5.sh"

Of course, if it starts with “Run” then you can just type “./Run” (without the quotes) and hit return, letting command line completion take care of the rest (it makes me very lazy). When you run the command from the console you get to see error messages.

Now that I think about it more, I believe there are likely some packages that Ubuntu doesn’t have installed by default that PgS needs. I’ll see what I can come up with in that regard.

Tim Doty



> On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Rick Buxton rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 1/7/15, Tim Doty thoromyr@mac.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still Alive?
> To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 6:29 PM
>
> Thank you for the reply. I have placed all the PageStream files in a folder and have tried clicking on the "run PageStream" icon, with no results. As for a terminal, yes, I can open it, but absolutely clueless as to what I should do with it. I am far from computer savvy - I just want to click something and go to work.
>
> I have used "Wine" which is an Windows-to-Linux interpreter, from what I understand, and am able to run the Windows version, sort of. Palettes and toolboxes disappear and can not be brought back without shutting PS down and restarting, and the menu text is so small that I have literally used a magnifying glass to read it - I have found no way to embiggen* the text.
>
> I have never found a program as versatile as PageStream and am not ashamed to say I love what it does and how it does it. PageStream makes me look like a genius - which I am not.
>
> I am more than happy to purchase the Linux version, but not until I'm sure I can make it work.
>
> Deron did include a text file of how to "install" PS, but I was hopelessly lost with all the Linux technolingo.
>
> Thanks again, Rick
>
> *Simpson's reference
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Although PgS has some issues on linux, it should
> run just fine. I do so from time to time. If you have the
> download then just unzip it wherever you want and run the
> “run page stream” script (or whatever it is called, I
> forget and don’t have a linux box in front of me).
>
>
>
> That should just work. If it doesn’t, try opening a
> terminal window and executing it from there which has the
> benefit of getting information such as errors.
> Unfortunately, Ubuntu has tried so hard to copy Win8’s
> move to a phone interface I’m not sure how you would get a
> terminal window open on it, or what their screwing around
> with the detaching menus would do to PageStream. But I
> assure you, any problems starting PgS are more likely to be
> Ubuntu’s fault than PageStream’s.
>
>
>
> If you are in a position to do so, I recommend using Mint
> with Mate as the interface. Its roughly what Ubuntu used to
> be.
>
>
>
> Tim Doty
>
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Rick Buxton
> rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport]
> <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --------------------------------------------
>
> > On Wed, 1/7/15, ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com
> [PageStreamSupport]
> <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still
> Alive?
>
> > To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 3:52 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > PageStream is the most valuable and most used program I
> own. I have used it everyday since it was first published.
> Sadly, I have switched to Linux (Ubuntu) and just don't
> have the technical know-how to get PageStream installed. I
> downloaded the Demo version to see if I could install, but
> without success. Is there an easy way to do it, or do I have
> to suffer the rest of my life without PageStream. I can
> assure you, I will never run Windows again. I've had it
> with Microsoft - right up to here. [Indicates with hand a
> location around the throat area]
>
> >
>
> > I have Amiga, Mac OS9, Linux and Windows Versions..
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Of course I would pay for
>
> > a new upgrade for the Linux, Windows and MacOSX
>
> > versions..
>
> >
>
> > Deron my
>
> > Amigo!!... I know you're doing the best you can.
> ;-)
>
> >
>
> > Happy New Year for
>
> > Everyone!!
>
> >
>
> >
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--
''Corporations are people. Money is free speech. War is peace. Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength. telling the truth is a revolutionary act''
2015-01-07 20:36:10 CT #15
Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

Okay, I remoted into a linux system with PgS installed and have refreshed my memory. You can use the “ldd” command (as in “ldd PageStream5” in the PgS directory) to see the dependencies, but…

The “ReadMe.Linux.txt” file says:
> -- Several 64 bit Linux distributions do not include liblinc for 32 bit apps.
> You need to copy this file from a 32 bit version of your distribution to your 64 bit
> installation. The file can be found usually at (/opt/gnome/libs/liblinc.so.1.0.0 or
> /usr/local/lib/liblinc.so.1.0.0) to the same place that other 32 bit libraries
> are stored on your system (the same place as the original file is found is
> usually fine) and then as superuser type "ldconfig -v" in a shell.
>

and dependencies you may encounter:
> -- Where various dependencies can be found
> glib 2.0 www.gnome.org http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/glib/
>
gtk+ 2.0 www.gnome.org http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gtk+/
>
pango 1.0 www.gnome.org http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/pango/
>
libgnome2 1.0 www.gnome.org http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libgnome2/
>
libgnomeui2 1.0 www.gnome.org http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libgnomeui2/
>
freetype2 2.0 www.freetype.org http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3157
>
fontconfig 2.0 www.fontconfig.org http://freedesktop.org/Software/FontConfig2_2
>
lcms 1.0 www.littlecms.com http://www.littlecms.com/downloads.htm
>

Hope that helps!


> On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Rick Buxton rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 1/7/15, Tim Doty thoromyr@mac.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still Alive?
> To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 6:29 PM
>
> Thank you for the reply. I have placed all the PageStream files in a folder and have tried clicking on the "run PageStream" icon, with no results. As for a terminal, yes, I can open it, but absolutely clueless as to what I should do with it. I am far from computer savvy - I just want to click something and go to work.
>
> I have used "Wine" which is an Windows-to-Linux interpreter, from what I understand, and am able to run the Windows version, sort of. Palettes and toolboxes disappear and can not be brought back without shutting PS down and restarting, and the menu text is so small that I have literally used a magnifying glass to read it - I have found no way to embiggen* the text.
>
> I have never found a program as versatile as PageStream and am not ashamed to say I love what it does and how it does it. PageStream makes me look like a genius - which I am not.
>
> I am more than happy to purchase the Linux version, but not until I'm sure I can make it work.
>
> Deron did include a text file of how to "install" PS, but I was hopelessly lost with all the Linux technolingo.
>
> Thanks again, Rick
>
> *Simpson's reference
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Although PgS has some issues on linux, it should
> run just fine. I do so from time to time. If you have the
> download then just unzip it wherever you want and run the
> “run page stream” script (or whatever it is called, I
> forget and don’t have a linux box in front of me).
>
>
>
> That should just work. If it doesn’t, try opening a
> terminal window and executing it from there which has the
> benefit of getting information such as errors.
> Unfortunately, Ubuntu has tried so hard to copy Win8’s
> move to a phone interface I’m not sure how you would get a
> terminal window open on it, or what their screwing around
> with the detaching menus would do to PageStream. But I
> assure you, any problems starting PgS are more likely to be
> Ubuntu’s fault than PageStream’s.
>
>
>
> If you are in a position to do so, I recommend using Mint
> with Mate as the interface. Its roughly what Ubuntu used to
> be.
>
>
>
> Tim Doty
>
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Rick Buxton
> rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport]
> <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --------------------------------------------
>
> > On Wed, 1/7/15, ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com
> [PageStreamSupport]
> <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still
> Alive?
>
> > To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 3:52 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > PageStream is the most valuable and most used program I
> own. I have used it everyday since it was first published.
> Sadly, I have switched to Linux (Ubuntu) and just don't
> have the technical know-how to get PageStream installed. I
> downloaded the Demo version to see if I could install, but
> without success. Is there an easy way to do it, or do I have
> to suffer the rest of my life without PageStream. I can
> assure you, I will never run Windows again. I've had it
> with Microsoft - right up to here. [Indicates with hand a
> location around the throat area]
>
> >
>
> > I have Amiga, Mac OS9, Linux and Windows Versions..
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Of course I would pay for
>
> > a new upgrade for the Linux, Windows and MacOSX
>
> > versions..
>
> >
>
> > Deron my
>
> > Amigo!!... I know you're doing the best you can.
> Wink
>
> >
>
> > Happy New Year for
>
> > Everyone!!
>
> >
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2015-01-07 19:57:43 CT #16
rickbuxton
From: Unknown
Registered: 2012-06-24
Posts: 11


--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 1/7/15, Tim Doty thoromyr@mac.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still Alive?
To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 7:36 PM

Thank you Tim.
Sadly, it appears to be beyond me. Perhaps with a few more years of using Linux, I'll acquire enough knowledge to know what all that means and how to use it. Right now, I do not possess the necessary understanding, which is a truly sad situation. I'm lost without PageStream, and will probably be so for some time to come.

Thanks again.
 









Okay, I remoted into a linux system with PgS
installed and have refreshed my memory. You can use the
“ldd” command (as in “ldd PageStream5” in the PgS
directory) to see the dependencies, but…



The “ReadMe.Linux.txt” file says:

> -- Several 64 bit Linux distributions do not include
liblinc for 32 bit apps.

> You need to copy this file from a 32 bit version of
your distribution to your 64 bit

> installation. The file can be found usually at
(/opt/gnome/libs/liblinc.so.1.0.0 or

> /usr/local/lib/liblinc.so.1.0.0) to the same place that
other 32 bit libraries

> are stored on your system (the same place as the
original file is found is

> usually fine) and then as superuser type "ldconfig
-v" in a shell.

>



and dependencies you may encounter:

> -- Where various dependencies can be found

> glib 2.0 www.gnome.org
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/glib/

> gtk+ 2.0 www.gnome.org
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gtk+/

> pango 1.0 www.gnome.org
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/pango/

> libgnome2 1.0 www.gnome.org
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libgnome2/

> libgnomeui2 1.0 www.gnome.org
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libgnomeui2/

> freetype2 2.0 www.freetype.org
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3157

> fontconfig 2.0 www.fontconfig.org
http://freedesktop.org/Software/FontConfig2_2

> lcms 1.0 www.littlecms.com
http://www.littlecms.com/downloads.htm

>



Hope that helps!



> On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Rick Buxton
rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport]
<PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>

>

> --------------------------------------------

> On Wed, 1/7/15, Tim Doty thoromyr@mac.com
[PageStreamSupport]
<PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>

> Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still
Alive?

> To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 6:29 PM

>

> Thank you for the reply. I have placed all the
PageStream files in a folder and have tried clicking on the
"run PageStream" icon, with no results. As for a
terminal, yes, I can open it, but absolutely clueless as to
what I should do with it. I am far from computer savvy - I
just want to click something and go to work.

>

> I have used "Wine" which is an
Windows-to-Linux interpreter, from what I understand, and am
able to run the Windows version, sort of. Palettes and
toolboxes disappear and can not be brought back without
shutting PS down and restarting, and the menu text is so
small that I have literally used a magnifying glass to read
it - I have found no way to embiggen* the text.

>

> I have never found a program as versatile as PageStream
and am not ashamed to say I love what it does and how it
does it. PageStream makes me look like a genius - which I am
not.

>

> I am more than happy to purchase the Linux version, but
not until I'm sure I can make it work.

>

> Deron did include a text file of how to
"install" PS, but I was hopelessly lost with all
the Linux technolingo.

>

> Thanks again, Rick

>

> *Simpson's reference

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Although PgS has some issues on linux, it should

> run just fine. I do so from time to time. If you have
the

> download then just unzip it wherever you want and run
the

> “run page stream” script (or whatever it is called,
I

> forget and don’t have a linux box in front of me).

>

>

>

> That should just work. If it doesn’t, try opening
a

> terminal window and executing it from there which has
the

> benefit of getting information such as errors.

> Unfortunately, Ubuntu has tried so hard to copy
Win8’s

> move to a phone interface I’m not sure how you would
get a

> terminal window open on it, or what their screwing
around

> with the detaching menus would do to PageStream. But
I

> assure you, any problems starting PgS are more likely
to be

> Ubuntu’s fault than PageStream’s.

>

>

>

> If you are in a position to do so, I recommend using
Mint

> with Mate as the interface. Its roughly what Ubuntu
used to

> be.

>

>

>

> Tim Doty

>

>

>

> > On Jan 7, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Rick Buxton

> rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport]

> <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > --------------------------------------------

>

> > On Wed, 1/7/15,
ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com

> [PageStreamSupport]

> <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream
Still

> Alive?

>

> > To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com

>

> > Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 3:52 PM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > PageStream is the most valuable and most used
program I

> own. I have used it everyday since it was first
published.

> Sadly, I have switched to Linux (Ubuntu) and just
don't

> have the technical know-how to get PageStream
installed. I

> downloaded the Demo version to see if I could install,
but

> without success. Is there an easy way to do it, or do I
have

> to suffer the rest of my life without PageStream. I
can

> assure you, I will never run Windows again. I've
had it

> with Microsoft - right up to here. [Indicates with hand
a

> location around the throat area]

>

> >

>

> > I have Amiga, Mac OS9, Linux and Windows
Versions..

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Of course I would pay for

>

> > a new upgrade for the Linux, Windows and MacOSX

>

> > versions..

>

> >

>

> > Deron my

>

> > Amigo!!... I know you're doing the best you
can.

> Wink

>

> >

>

> > Happy New Year for

>

> > Everyone!!

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

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2015-01-07 22:01:47 CT #17
Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

I really recommend you try linux mint. I haven’t had occasion to try PgS on it yet, but Rodney reported it as working fine just extracting the files from the archive. Ubuntu used to be a good distro, but hasn’t been for a while now.

Tim Doty

> On Jan 7, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Rick Buxton rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 1/7/15, Tim Doty thoromyr@mac.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still Alive?
> To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 7:36 PM
>
> Thank you Tim.
> Sadly, it appears to be beyond me. Perhaps with a few more years of using Linux, I'll acquire enough knowledge to know what all that means and how to use it. Right now, I do not possess the necessary understanding, which is a truly sad situation. I'm lost without PageStream, and will probably be so for some time to come.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Okay, I remoted into a linux system with PgS
> installed and have refreshed my memory. You can use the
> “ldd” command (as in “ldd PageStream5” in the PgS
> directory) to see the dependencies, but…
>
>
>
> The “ReadMe.Linux.txt” file says:
>
> > -- Several 64 bit Linux distributions do not include
> liblinc for 32 bit apps.
>
> > You need to copy this file from a 32 bit version of
> your distribution to your 64 bit
>
> > installation. The file can be found usually at
> (/opt/gnome/libs/liblinc.so.1.0.0 or
>
> > /usr/local/lib/liblinc.so.1.0.0) to the same place that
> other 32 bit libraries
>
> > are stored on your system (the same place as the
> original file is found is
>
> > usually fine) and then as superuser type "ldconfig
> -v" in a shell.
>
> >
>
>
>
> and dependencies you may encounter:
>
> > -- Where various dependencies can be found
>
> > glib 2.0 www.gnome.org
>http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/glib/
>

> > gtk+ 2.0 www.gnome.org
>http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gtk+/
>

> > pango 1.0 www.gnome.org
>http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/pango/
>

> > libgnome2 1.0 www.gnome.org
>http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libgnome2/
>

> > libgnomeui2 1.0 www.gnome.org
>http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libgnomeui2/
>

> > freetype2 2.0 www.freetype.org
>http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3157
>

> > fontconfig 2.0 www.fontconfig.org
>http://freedesktop.org/Software/FontConfig2_2
>

> > lcms 1.0 www.littlecms.com
>http://www.littlecms.com/downloads.htm
>

> >
>
>
>
> Hope that helps!
>
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Rick Buxton
> rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport]
> <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --------------------------------------------
>
> > On Wed, 1/7/15, Tim Doty thoromyr@mac.com
> [PageStreamSupport]
> <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still
> Alive?
>
> > To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 6:29 PM
>
> >
>
> > Thank you for the reply. I have placed all the
> PageStream files in a folder and have tried clicking on the
> "run PageStream" icon, with no results. As for a
> terminal, yes, I can open it, but absolutely clueless as to
> what I should do with it. I am far from computer savvy - I
> just want to click something and go to work.
>
> >
>
> > I have used "Wine" which is an
> Windows-to-Linux interpreter, from what I understand, and am
> able to run the Windows version, sort of. Palettes and
> toolboxes disappear and can not be brought back without
> shutting PS down and restarting, and the menu text is so
> small that I have literally used a magnifying glass to read
> it - I have found no way to embiggen* the text.
>
> >
>
> > I have never found a program as versatile as PageStream
> and am not ashamed to say I love what it does and how it
> does it. PageStream makes me look like a genius - which I am
> not.
>
> >
>
> > I am more than happy to purchase the Linux version, but
> not until I'm sure I can make it work.
>
> >
>
> > Deron did include a text file of how to
> "install" PS, but I was hopelessly lost with all
> the Linux technolingo.
>
> >
>
> > Thanks again, Rick
>
> >
>
> > *Simpson's reference
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Although PgS has some issues on linux, it should
>
> > run just fine. I do so from time to time. If you have
> the
>
> > download then just unzip it wherever you want and run
> the
>
> > “run page stream” script (or whatever it is called,
> I
>
> > forget and don’t have a linux box in front of me).
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > That should just work. If it doesn’t, try opening
> a
>
> > terminal window and executing it from there which has
> the
>
> > benefit of getting information such as errors.
>
> > Unfortunately, Ubuntu has tried so hard to copy
> Win8’s
>
> > move to a phone interface I’m not sure how you would
> get a
>
> > terminal window open on it, or what their screwing
> around
>
> > with the detaching menus would do to PageStream. But
> I
>
> > assure you, any problems starting PgS are more likely
> to be
>
> > Ubuntu’s fault than PageStream’s.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > If you are in a position to do so, I recommend using
> Mint
>
> > with Mate as the interface. Its roughly what Ubuntu
> used to
>
> > be.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Tim Doty
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > On Jan 7, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Rick Buxton
>
> > rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport]
>
> > <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > --------------------------------------------
>
> >
>
> > > On Wed, 1/7/15,
> ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com
>
> > [PageStreamSupport]
>
> > <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream
> Still
>
> > Alive?
>
> >
>
> > > To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
>
> > > Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 3:52 PM
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > PageStream is the most valuable and most used
> program I
>
> > own. I have used it everyday since it was first
> published.
>
> > Sadly, I have switched to Linux (Ubuntu) and just
> don't
>
> > have the technical know-how to get PageStream
> installed. I
>
> > downloaded the Demo version to see if I could install,
> but
>
> > without success. Is there an easy way to do it, or do I
> have
>
> > to suffer the rest of my life without PageStream. I
> can
>
> > assure you, I will never run Windows again. I've
> had it
>
> > with Microsoft - right up to here. [Indicates with hand
> a
>
> > location around the throat area]
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I have Amiga, Mac OS9, Linux and Windows
> Versions..
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Of course I would pay for
>
> >
>
> > > a new upgrade for the Linux, Windows and MacOSX
>
> >
>
> > > versions..
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Deron my
>
> >
>
> > > Amigo!!... I know you're doing the best you
> can.
>
> > Wink
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Happy New Year for
>
> >
>
> > > Everyone!!
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
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> >
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2015-01-08 04:54:04 CT #18
Neil Pearson
From: United Kingdom
Registered: 2006-04-02
Posts: 132

Hello Rick,

I was reading what you were discussing, and thought I'd throw in my idea.

I was an avid user of the Amiga Classic systems, and still have them though I generally don't
use them as I have a MorphOS v3.7 system that runs Pagestream 4.1.5.6 very well under its 68k
emulation (Trance).

I never thought I would own :-

1. Apple hardware
2. A system that wasn't an Amiga labelled system

But, I have to say that for the most part, the MacMini has cost me less (£60 for the hardware +
£70 for the keyfile) and in the meantime I bought and sold a few of them, and have made my money
back about three-fold so my MorphOS system has worked out basically free, and I have even been
able to buy/register a Powerbook - the only actual laptop for an Amiga type system, apart from
the iBook, and other Apple hardware converted for MorphOS use.

The Apple Wireless options are now working as they should under MorphOS, so it really is an
option for you to consider, and my word does it work at a fast speed compared to the Classic
Amiga systems. Documents that took ages for the progress meter to complete will just flash up
on screen and are then gone, and the document is loaded. Even large filesize images load in a few
seconds, and of course you have 1GB of RAM to play with - on basically an Amiga system, so you
can do loads with that. There is Scandal for scanning as long as you have certain scanners. I
have an Epson 1640SU Perfection that runs really well - Scandal is of course free, and part of
the MOS system updates. The author is also working on a Printing system, based around CUPS, I
believe, and the Beta of the system runs really well, and I can print anything out with my HP
2500 Colour Laserjet Postscript enabled USB/Parallel/Ethernet printer.

It's just a thought, and something you may want to consider. I know I was never going to buy
MorphOS, but OS4 was a real disappointment for Classic hardware and MorphOS just seemed
worthwhile trying for me, and I really haven't looked back. There are some shortfalls like no
'real' flashplayer, though there is the open flashplayer that works, and handles many sites OK.

Though there are some missing neat features that you get under Windows, and other more up
to date OS's/hardware, but OWB is a great browser, and is hard to tell apart from many of the
modern more well established platforms/OS's.

If you've got the hardware for it, then you can of course try it out for free, just download the
ISO file and burn it to disc. It runs full speed for 30 minutes I believe, but I've been
registered for MOS for a few years now.

Anyway, I'll leave it up to you, but Pagestream works nicely under MOS.

Neil Pearson

On 08/01/2015, you wrote:

> --------------------------------------------+
> On Wed, 1/7/15, Tim Doty thoromyr@mac.com [PageStreamSupport]
> <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still Alive?
> To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 7:36 PM
>
> Thank you Tim.
> Sadly, it appears to be beyond me. Perhaps with a few more years of using Linux, I'll acquire
> enough knowledge to know what all that means and how to use it. Right now, I do not possess
> the necessary understanding, which is a truly sad situation. I'm lost without PageStream, and
> will probably be so for some time to come.
> Thanks again.
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Okay, I remoted into a linux system with PgS
> installed and have refreshed my memory. You can use the
> _ldd_ command (as in _ldd PageStream5_ in the PgS
> directory) to see the dependencies, but_
>
>
>
> The _ReadMe.Linux.txt_ file says:
>
> > -- Several 64 bit Linux distributions do not include
> liblinc for 32 bit apps.
>
> > You need to copy this file from a 32 bit version of
> your distribution to your 64 bit
>
> > installation. The file can be found usually at
> (/opt/gnome/libs/liblinc.so.1.0.0 or
>
> > /usr/local/lib/liblinc.so.1.0.0) to the same place that
> other 32 bit libraries
>
> > are stored on your system (the same place as the
> original file is found is
>
> > usually fine) and then as superuser type "ldconfig
> -v" in a shell.
>
> >
>
>
>
> and dependencies you may encounter:
>
> > -- Where various dependencies can be found
>
> > glib 2.0 www.gnome.org
> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/glib/
>

> > gtk+ 2.0 www.gnome.org
> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gtk+/
>

> > pango 1.0 www.gnome.org
> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/pango/
>

> > libgnome2 1.0 www.gnome.org
> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libgnome2/
>

> > libgnomeui2 1.0 www.gnome.org
> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libgnomeui2/
>

> > freetype2 2.0 www.freetype.org
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3157
>

> > fontconfig 2.0 www.fontconfig.org
> http://freedesktop.org/Software/FontConfig2_2
>

> > lcms 1.0 www.littlecms.com
> http://www.littlecms.com/downloads.htm
>

> >
>
>
>
> Hope that helps!
>
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Rick Buxton
> rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport]
> <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --------------------------------------------
>
> > On Wed, 1/7/15, Tim Doty thoromyr@mac.com
> [PageStreamSupport]
> <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream Still
> Alive?
>
> > To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 6:29 PM
>
> >
>
> > Thank you for the reply. I have placed all the
> PageStream files in a folder and have tried clicking on the
> "run PageStream" icon, with no results. As for a
> terminal, yes, I can open it, but absolutely clueless as to
> what I should do with it. I am far from computer savvy - I
> just want to click something and go to work.
>
> >
>
> > I have used "Wine" which is an
> Windows-to-Linux interpreter, from what I understand, and am
> able to run the Windows version, sort of. Palettes and
> toolboxes disappear and can not be brought back without
> shutting PS down and restarting, and the menu text is so
> small that I have literally used a magnifying glass to read
> it - I have found no way to embiggen* the text.
>
> >
>
> > I have never found a program as versatile as PageStream
> and am not ashamed to say I love what it does and how it
> does it. PageStream makes me look like a genius - which I am
> not.
>
> >
>
> > I am more than happy to purchase the Linux version, but
> not until I'm sure I can make it work.
>
> >
>
> > Deron did include a text file of how to
> "install" PS, but I was hopelessly lost with all
> the Linux technolingo.
>
> >
>
> > Thanks again, Rick
>
> >
>
> > *Simpson's reference
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Although PgS has some issues on linux, it should
>
> > run just fine. I do so from time to time. If you have
> the
>
> > download then just unzip it wherever you want and run
> the
>
> > _run page stream_ script (or whatever it is called,
> I
>
> > forget and don_t have a linux box in front of me).
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > That should just work. If it doesn_t, try opening
> a
>
> > terminal window and executing it from there which has
> the
>
> > benefit of getting information such as errors.
>
> > Unfortunately, Ubuntu has tried so hard to copy
> Win8_s
>
> > move to a phone interface I_m not sure how you would
> get a
>
> > terminal window open on it, or what their screwing
> around
>
> > with the detaching menus would do to PageStream. But
> I
>
> > assure you, any problems starting PgS are more likely
> to be
>
> > Ubuntu_s fault than PageStream_s.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > If you are in a position to do so, I recommend using
> Mint
>
> > with Mate as the interface. Its roughly what Ubuntu
> used to
>
> > be.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Tim Doty
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > On Jan 7, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Rick Buxton
>
> > rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport]
>
> > <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > --------------------------------------------
>
> >
>
> > > On Wed, 1/7/15,
> ezequielpartida@berryplastics.com
>
> > [PageStreamSupport]
>
> > <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Subject: Re: [PageStreamSupport] Is PageStream
> Still
>
> > Alive?
>
> >
>
> > > To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
>
> > > Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 3:52 PM
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > PageStream is the most valuable and most used
> program I
>
> > own. I have used it everyday since it was first
> published.
>
> > Sadly, I have switched to Linux (Ubuntu) and just
> don't
>
> > have the technical know-how to get PageStream
> installed. I
>
> > downloaded the Demo version to see if I could install,
> but
>
> > without success. Is there an easy way to do it, or do I
> have
>
> > to suffer the rest of my life without PageStream. I
> can
>
> > assure you, I will never run Windows again. I've
> had it
>
> > with Microsoft - right up to here. [Indicates with hand
> a
>
> > location around the throat area]
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I have Amiga, Mac OS9, Linux and Windows
> Versions..
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Of course I would pay for
>
> >
>
> > > a new upgrade for the Linux, Windows and MacOSX
>
> >
>
> > > versions..
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Deron my
>
> >
>
> > > Amigo!!... I know you're doing the best you
> can.
>
> > Wink
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Happy New Year for
>
> >
>
> > > Everyone!!
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > yiv7274986208 yiv7274986208 --
>
> >
>
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>
> > > float:left;width:72px;}
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > border:1px solid
>
> >
>
> > >
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> > >
>
> >
>
> > > yiv7274986208 yiv7274986208photos div label {
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> >
>
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>
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>
> >
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> >
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>
> > color:#ff7900;}
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>
> > .yiv1987787533underline {
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>
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>
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> > yiv1987787533 .yiv1987787533attach label {
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
> >
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>
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>
> > yiv1987787533 dd.yiv1987787533last p
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
> > yiv1987787533 div.yiv1987787533photo-title
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>
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>
> > yiv1987787533 div.yiv1987787533photo-title a:visited
> {
>
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>
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>
> > yiv1987787533 divyiv1987787533ygrp-mlmsg
>
> > yiv1987787533ygrp-msg p a span.yiv1987787533yshortcuts
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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> > yiv1987787533 o {
>
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>
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>
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>
> > float:left;width:72px;}
>
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>
> > yiv1987787533 yiv1987787533photos div div {
>
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>
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>
> >
>
> > yiv1987787533 yiv1987787533photos div label {
>
> >
>
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> >
>
> > yiv1987787533 yiv1987787533reco-category {
>
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>
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>
> > yiv1987787533 yiv1987787533reco-desc {
>
> > font-size:77%;}
>
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>
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>
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>
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Regards


2015-01-08 18:20:08 CT #19
Ingo Heinicke
From: Germany
Registered: 2006-12-24
Posts: 154

Hi folks,

Sorry to say but as I'm not able to copy&paste since years with PGS on
my Mac I finally bought InDesign.

Any idea what's the smartest idea to import PGS docs into InDesign? This
might also be interesting for people working with PGS if they want to
exchange docs with contacts not having PGS.

Sad to move after all these years and platforms (Amiga, Windows, Mac).

Ingo

2015-01-08 13:09:23 CT #20
Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

I wrote a script to convert text files with PgS text codes into Quark tagged files. I have no idea what InDesign does for tags in files, but they should have some method, and then it is a matter of conversion. Anyone wanting to see what I did for reference (or to simply use it) can get the script from the usual place (http://pagestream.ylansi.net)

How PgS does tags differs enough from Quark to make some translations infeasible and what works best is to do everything in styles. Then you only have to setup the style again in the other application. For example, how PgS tags tabs and how Quark does makes conversion a real PITA so I dropped any attempt.

What would work best is to write a Quark (or InDesign) tagged text export filter. That wouldn’t be too hard except… it requires coding in C and getting the module compiled. I can write C code, but it was more work than I was able to do to get modules to compile. A shame they can’t be plugged in via Python…

Tim Doty

> On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Ingo Heinicke I.Heinicke@skyynet.de [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Sorry to say but as I'm not able to copy&paste since years with PGS on
> my Mac I finally bought InDesign.
>
> Any idea what's the smartest idea to import PGS docs into InDesign? This
> might also be interesting for people working with PGS if they want to
> exchange docs with contacts not having PGS.
>
> Sad to move after all these years and platforms (Amiga, Windows, Mac).
>
> Ingo
>
>


2015-01-08 20:22:40 CT #21
Michael Merkel
From: Germany
Registered: 2006-02-07
Posts: 454

Bart Mathias mathias@hawaii.edu [PageSt wrote on 01.01.2015
about <[PageStreamSupport] Re: Is PageStream Still Alive?> the following:

> Hello Joe
>
> I'd pitch in if Amiga is included. But that seems unlikely.


it is now almost 2 years ago (was may 2013) that deron answered a mail regarding the amiga version (or other new versions).

unfortunately no sign of life regarding the beloved platform. sad.
i used pagestream really often and liked it much. but as the newer versions don't run reliable any more on my current x1000 machine i don't use it any more. sadly - i miss it!

i really hope something is coming some day - but it does not look like that.

regards...
michael
--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael
Member ofhttp://www.amiga-freunde.de


2015-01-08 11:02:24 CT #22
Bart Mathias
From: United States
Registered: 2007-01-13
Posts: 320

Hello Michael

I have lots of problems with my 5.0.5.8 Pro. To "Open Recent" without
crashing the X1000 I often have to open "New" and type something in
that and/or open "5.0 Flyer.pgs" first. Then for some reason "Open
Recent" usually works. And almost alway I'll need to "Ignore DSI," a
bad thing to do I'm told, once in the early stage.

Lots of other things, e.g. Scripts, don't work in OS4. But most of
those things I don't really need for the stuff I do. As long as I can
import jpegs, etc., it's enough. At 79½-going-on-80 I don't see
myself finding any other solutions I can handle. (I did try something
in Ubuntu recommended in this list, but I wouldn't be able to
remember the steps the next time I needed it...)

Bart

On 01/08/2015, you wrote:

> Bart Mathias mathias@hawaii.edu [PageSt wrote on 01.01.2015
> about <[PageStreamSupport] Re: Is PageStream Still Alive?> the
> following:
>
>> Hello Joe
>>
>> I'd pitch in if Amiga is included. But that seems unlikely.
>
>
> it is now almost 2 years ago (was may 2013) that deron answered a
> mail regarding the amiga version (or other new versions).
>
> unfortunately no sign of life regarding the beloved platform.
> sad. i used pagestream really often and liked it much. but as the
> newer versions don't run reliable any more on my current x1000
> machine i don't use it any more. sadly - i miss it!
>
> i really hope something is coming some day - but it does not look
> like that.
>
> regards...
> michael


2015-01-09 01:59:35 CT #23
Remo Costantin
From: Germany
Registered: 2006-02-13
Posts: 41
I paid for an AmigaOS version too. Didn't get much for what I payed. 

However I'd still love to see an update. With a robust PDF support. Printing is not needed much anyway these days. 

Sent from my iPhone 5
2015-01-08 15:17:25 CT #24
Lawrence F. Keller
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-15
Posts: 65
Michael:

I gave Deron credit for going as long as he could.  I now use Publisher that comes with Microsoft Office.  Minimal program which even version 4 of Pagestream puts to shame.  But as Bart noted, PageStream 5 just doesn't run well on X 1000.  This is tragedy as we lose the best Amiga application just as we get machines that can run it well.

Can't wait to install AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition on my X1000.  Steve Solie and group have done yeomen - yeopeople? - work on bringing AmigaOS 4 to fruition.  4.2 should be coming soon though I would not put a time line on it.  In spite of all the conflict whirling around anything Amiga, Hyperion is to be congratulated on staying the course in such classy and effective fashion.  Hope Deron can come back online also as PageStream is the best desktop publishing program on any platform.

On 08-Jan-15 2:22 PM, Michael Merkel Michael.Merkel@gmx.net [PageStreamAmigaBeta] wrote:
 

Bart Mathias mathias@hawaii.edu [PageSt wrote on 01.01.2015
about <[PageStreamSupport] Re: Is PageStream Still Alive?> the following:

> Hello Joe
>
> I'd pitch in if Amiga is included. But that seems unlikely.

it is now almost 2 years ago (was may 2013) that deron answered a mail regarding the amiga version (or other new versions).

unfortunately no sign of life regarding the beloved platform. sad.
i used pagestream really often and liked it much. but as the newer versions don't run reliable any more on my current x1000 machine i don't use it any more. sadly - i miss it!

i really hope something is coming some day - but it does not look like that.

regards...
michael
--
Michael Merkel (MiMe@IRC)
Michael.Merkel@gmx.net
http://www.mirime.de/Michael
Member of http://www.amiga-freunde.de



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