Hello,

I had a short exchange with Derek and he asked a question to which I did not have an answer, as I use the software at such a basic level, for small personal projects.

I really want the software to work with my OS, as things break sometimes.  I am willing to pay for this so that I can continue using the software that I know how to use.

My question is:

Besides making the software just "work" with the latest OS (Mac, or Windows, what ever):

What concrete feature do you see needing to be added?


Please be serious and realist.  Derek is looking for a list of feature desired by users.

I just want it to work, and I am willing to pay to make it work with new version of my Mac.


What do YOU want?


Joseph

-- 
Redacteur, vertaler, illustrator bij Ligfiets.net

Having developed a disdain for Microsoft in general, and Windows in particular, I now use Linux (Ubuntu) for my operating system. Although I can still partially use my Windows version of PageStream with an interpreter (Wine), I would prefer an easily installable version for Linux. Currently, you have to have great patience and what appears to me to be computer programming skills. I just want to download, click "install," and go to work. And, I'm willing to pay for it. PageStream does virtually everything I require.

The only other request, if I can't figure out, and I've tried, how to install in Linux without using command lines and terminals, I'd like to be able to export/convert all the PageStream files I've created over the years into another application, such as Libre Office. Saving as a PDF does not make for an easily-editable document, especially multiple page books.

My needs are simple.

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 1/23/15, Joseph Hogan joehogan@gmx.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [PageStreamSupport] PageStream Upgrade: What do you want/need?
To: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 23, 2015, 2:36 PM


 












Hello,



I had a short exchange with Derek and he asked a
question to which I
did not have an answer, as I use the software at such a
basic level,
for small personal projects.



I really want the software to work with my OS, as things
break
sometimes.  I am willing to pay for this so that I can
continue
using the software that I know how to use.



My question is:



Besides making the software just "work" with
the latest OS (Mac, or
Windows, what ever):



What concrete feature do you see needing to be added?





Please be serious and realist.  Derek is looking for a
list of
feature desired by users.



I just want it to work, and I am willing to pay to make
it work with
new version of my Mac.





What do YOU want?





Joseph












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Hi Jim

> On Jan 23, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Rick Buxton rickbuxton@yahoo.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
[snip]
> I'd like to be able to export/convert all the PageStream files I've created over the years into another application, such as Libre Office. Saving as a PDF does not make for an easily-editable document, especially multiple page books.
>
> My needs are simple.

Your needs may be simple, but what you are asking for is not. To put it bluntly: LibreOffice lacks the capabilities of a desktop publishing program and simply cannot do what PageStream can. If you wanted to go the other way, that would be reasonable. Way back when, you could open or import a ProWrite document with PageStream and save as a PageStream document. Some things didn’t come out right (IIRC, text came in blue), but they were fixed easily enough.

What you *can* do is export article text and import it into LibreOffice, QuarkXpress, InDesign, or whatever else you want. If copy and paste worked, you could just copy the article in PageStream and paste it into the other application. The same goes for any images you might be using. Other things, like borders, simply cannot be transferred.

Tim Doty
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I’m not sure it makes sense (though I would support any effort), but here are a few things:

Correct outstanding bugs: for example, copy/paste not working. IIRC, indexes are also broken. I don’t often do bulleted paragraphs, but when I did recently the outset option did nothing

Widow/orphan control: the settings do absolutely nothing — make them work

Improve font support: support for advanced font features is limited and partially broken for what is supported

Paragraph styles: I got spoiled very quickly by Quark having real paragraph styles (place cursor in paragraph, set style or paragraph format option and it actually applies to the paragraph — PgS requires you select the entire paragraph [including the carriage return at end] if you want it to apply and stick reliably).

Text editing performance: I had to switch a project to Quark because PgS became unusable. This has happened in the past with longer articles toward the end, particularly when there were lots of tab sets. I’m not sure what triggered the most recent event because it was a short article and without tabs. But PgS became unusable with just a few pages in that article.

SVG import/export: this is a well established format for vector art, probably at least as common as Illustrator

Python filters: if there was a way to write import/export filters in python there are some interesting things I could do. Unfortunately, I never did get the environment set up to permit compiling the C code filters.

Image processing: being able to set basic image processing functions on imported images, such as changing the alpha/transparency, gamma, and such. These abilities really help with composition, what I use the most is alpha, and if it could be done as a gradient all the better (say, an oval mask that had a soft rolled edge).

Text on a curve: imprecise and difficult to control. For example, it should be simple to put text around a circle and have it spaced correctly around (essentially, fully justified text on a curve).

Don’t get me wrong: I love PageStream and its simple but effective and powerful interface. But many of these items are not simple or easy to implement. If it was clear how to resolve the performance of text editing, I’m sure Deron would have done so some time ago. Similarly, widow/orphan control has been in the interface a long time and has never done anything. I’m not sure what the issue with paragraph styles is, but its hard to imagine why its remained so clumsy if the fix were reasonably simple.

The SVG import/export is probably the easiest to implement. Next would, I expect, be font support and python filters. But past that?

Tim Doty

> On Jan 23, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Joseph Hogan joehogan@gmx.com [PageStreamSupport] <PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I had a short exchange with Derek and he asked a question to which I did not have an answer, as I use the software at such a basic level, for small personal projects.
>
> I really want the software to work with my OS, as things break sometimes. I am willing to pay for this so that I can continue using the software that I know how to use.
>
> My question is:
>
> Besides making the software just "work" with the latest OS (Mac, or Windows, what ever):
>
> What concrete feature do you see needing to be added?
>
>
> Please be serious and realist. Derek is looking for a list of feature desired by users.
>
> I just want it to work, and I am willing to pay to make it work with new version of my Mac.
>
>
> What do YOU want?
>
>
> Joseph
>
>

Hello,

I had a short exchange with Derek and he asked a question to which I did not have an answer, as I use the software at such a basic level, for small personal projects.

I really want the software to work with my OS, as things break sometimes.  I am willing to pay for this so that I can continue using the software that I know how to use.

My question is:

Besides making the software just "work" with the latest OS (Mac, or Windows, what ever):

What concrete feature do you see needing to be added?


Please be serious and realist.  Derek is looking for a list of feature desired by users.

I just want it to work, and I am willing to pay to make it work with new version of my Mac.


What do YOU want?


Joseph

I am not interested in new features at the moment.

What we need is "simply" to:
- Fix the bugs that are still around.
- Fix the window behavior in Windows (at present very strange).

- Tidy up the GUI.

When all that is done and PageStream is running smoothly, then we can talk about new features.

I for one don't want new features if it means leaving old and mission-critical bugs in the program.


I would pay for a "fix-what-is-broke" update.


Greetings,

Marquard

On 23-01-2015 22:36, Joseph Hogan joehogan@gmx.com [PageStreamSupport] wrote:

Hello,

I had a short exchange with Derek and he asked a question to which I did not have an answer, as I use the software at such a basic level, for small personal projects.

I really want the software to work with my OS, as things break sometimes.  I am willing to pay for this so that I can continue using the software that I know how to use.

My question is:

Besides making the software just "work" with the latest OS (Mac, or Windows, what ever):

What concrete feature do you see needing to be added?


Please be serious and realist.  Derek is looking for a list of feature desired by users.

I just want it to work, and I am willing to pay to make it work with new version of my Mac.


What do YOU want?


Joseph

-- 
Redacteur, vertaler, illustrator bij Ligfiets.net

Hello Joseph

On 23/01/2015, you wrote:

> My question is:
>
> Besides making the software just "work" with the latest OS (Mac, or
> Windows, what ever):
and AmigaOS of course ! My AmigaS (including X1000) are starving of a new PageStream version that don't crash since so
looooooooooong !

> What concrete feature do you see needing to be added?
>
- pdf import AND export that don't crash (usable so

- modernisation of the Fonts support :
- no crash with really huge fonts collections (superior to 10000 fonts and up...)

- an "à la mac" suitcase style font support ?, so we can class our fonts by usage or familly (Titling fonts, decoratives
fonts, Headline fonts, special fonts, etc, etc, etc) so we have a smaller font requester with sub menues where chosing
fonts... (the actual font choser just explode with many many fonts installed

- font editor...

- svg import-export support with visible preview of the svg images in the pages,

etc...

Amigalement,
JF Voxel, PageStream user since version 1.0 !

 

I am not interested in new features at the moment.

What we need is "simply" to:
- Fix the bugs that are still around.
- Fix the window behavior in Windows (at present very strange).
- Tidy up the GUI.

When all that is done and PageStream is running smoothly, then we can talk about new features.

I for one don't want new features if it means leaving old and mission-critical bugs in the program.


I would pay for a "fix-what-is-broke" update.


Greetings,

Marquard


On 23-01-2015 22:36, Joseph Hogan joehogan@gmx.com [PageStreamSupport] wrote:

Hello,

I had a short exchange with Derek and he asked a question to which I did not have an answer, as I use the software at such a basic level, for small personal projects.

I really want the software to work with my OS, as things break sometimes.  I am willing to pay for this so that I can continue using the software that I know how to use.

My question is:

Besides making the software just "work" with the latest OS (Mac, or Windows, what ever):

What concrete feature do you see needing to be added?


Please be serious and realist.  Derek is looking for a list of feature desired by users.

I just want it to work, and I am willing to pay to make it work with new version of my Mac.


What do YOU want?


Joseph

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> Besides making the software just "work" with the latest OS (Mac, or
> Windows, what ever):
>
> What concrete feature do you see needing to be added?
>
> Please be serious and realist. Derek is looking for a list of feature
> desired by users.

My biggest wish is not so much for new features as for a few relatively
minor bigfixes. At the top of my list is global search/replace; s/r only
works at the chapter level, not through an entire document. Other'n that,
I truly love PS -- been using it since 1.0 on my A1000; now, reluctantly,
on Winblows (arguably the worst OS on the planet). I edit and typeset my
wife's novels (four so far) - PS does it all.

regards, Jim

 

I am not interested in new features at the moment.

What we need is "simply" to:
- Fix the bugs that are still around.
- Fix the window behavior in Windows (at present very strange).

Yes I agree!

'P. Marquard' pmarquard@Cunning-Enterprises.com [PageStreamSupport] schreef op 24-1-2015 om 17:13:

I am not interested in new features at the moment.

What we need is "simply" to:
- Fix the bugs that are still around.
- Fix the window behavior in Windows (at present very strange).

Ok, what is this strange behavior?
I have sometimes (!) that PGS 5.0.5.8 doesn't recognize its own documents (I start my Windows 7, read mails, and start my browser, and then open PGS 5.0.5.8). What I do, is open PGS 5.0.5.7. That works like dream in the same environment. Or you could reboot your computer.

Or I do an Exclusive (Object/Path), and the result is dramatic bad (again: sometimes!). Well I just open PGS 5.0.5.7, and the result is always good!

That's what I can think of, at the moment. Just have PGS 5.0.5.7 as a backup.

- Tidy up the GUI.

When all that is done and PageStream is running smoothly, then we can talk about new features.

I for one don't want new features if it means leaving old and mission-critical bugs in the program.


I would pay for a "fix-what-is-broke" update.


Greetings,

Marquard

Theo

On 23-01-2015 22:36, Joseph Hogan joehogan@gmx.com [PageStreamSupport] wrote:

Hello,

I had a short exchange with Derek and he asked a question to which I did not have an answer, as I use the software at such a basic level, for small personal projects.

I really want the software to work with my OS, as things break sometimes.  I am willing to pay for this so that I can continue using the software that I know how to use.

My question is:

Besides making the software just "work" with the latest OS (Mac, or Windows, what ever):

What concrete feature do you see needing to be added?


Please be serious and realist.  Derek is looking for a list of feature desired by users.

I just want it to work, and I am willing to pay to make it work with new version of my Mac.


What do YOU want?


Joseph

-- 
Redacteur, vertaler, illustrator bij Ligfiets.net

I haven't read the full thread, so my input might already have been mentioned.

I use PGS on my Windows 7 based laptop.I mostly use PGS when my laptop is in its docking station with external monitor. The resolution of the monitor is different than the resolution of the laptop screen. PGS works fine on the external monitor, however, if I later start PGS on the laptop screen the PGS windows do not fit the laptop screen, and I am unable to make the fit, e.g. one palette is located "below" the screen and is therefore inaccessible.

I wonder if anybody could understand this :-)

/ Uffe

Den 23. jan. 2015, Joseph Hogan joehogan@gmx.com [PageStreamSupport] <pagestreamsupport@yahoogroups.com> skrev:

Hello,

I had a short exchange with Derek and he asked a question to which I did not have an answer, as I use the software at such a basic level, for small personal projects.

I really want the software to work with my OS, as things break sometimes.  I am willing to pay for this so that I can continue using the software that I know how to use.

My question is:

Besides making the software just "work" with the latest OS (Mac, or Windows, what ever):

What concrete feature do you see needing to be added?


Please be serious and realist.  Derek is looking for a list of feature desired by users.

I just want it to work, and I am willing to pay to make it work with new version of my Mac.


What do YOU want?


Joseph

On 1/24/2015 11:13 AM, 'P. Marquard' pmarquard@Cunning-Enterprises.com [PageStreamSupport] wrote:

 

I am not interested in new features at the moment.

What we need is "simply" to:
- Fix the bugs that are still around.
- Fix the window behavior in Windows (at present very strange).

I second this motion. The windows behavior on the Windows version (irony!) is poor. If you work with more than one document open, you need to be extremely careful as to which one saves or closes.

Count me in as one who will pay. I still use Pagestream almost every day for technical documents.

Here's hoping for wishes being granted!

Peter

-- 
Redacteur, vertaler, illustrator bij Ligfiets.net

I haven't read the full thread, so my input might already have been mentioned.

I use PGS on my Windows 7 based laptop.I mostly use PGS when my laptop is in its docking station with external monitor. The resolution of the monitor is different than the resolution of the laptop screen. PGS works fine on the external monitor, however, if I later start PGS on the laptop screen the PGS windows do not fit the laptop screen, and I am unable to make the fit, e.g. one palette is located "below" the screen and is therefore inaccessible.

I wonder if anybody could understand this :-)

/ Uffe

Den 23. jan. 2015, Joseph Hogan joehogan@gmx.com [PageStreamSupport] <pagestreamsupport@yahoogroups.com> skrev:

Hello,

I had a short exchange with Derek and he asked a question to which I did not have an answer, as I use the software at such a basic level, for small personal projects.

I really want the software to work with my OS, as things break sometimes.  I am willing to pay for this so that I can continue using the software that I know how to use.

My question is:

Besides making the software just "work" with the latest OS (Mac, or Windows, what ever):

What concrete feature do you see needing to be added?


Please be serious and realist.  Derek is looking for a list of feature desired by users.

I just want it to work, and I am willing to pay to make it work with new version of my Mac.


What do YOU want?


Joseph

-- 
Redacteur, vertaler, illustrator bij Ligfiets.net

'Uffe Holst' uffe@shelter.dk [PageStreamSupport] schreef op 25-1-2015 om 9:16:

I haven't read the full thread, so my input might already have been mentioned.

I use PGS on my Windows 7 based laptop.I mostly use PGS when my laptop is in its docking station with external monitor. The resolution of the monitor is different than the resolution of the laptop screen. PGS works fine on the external monitor, however, if I later start PGS on the laptop screen the PGS windows do not fit the laptop screen, and I am unable to make the fit, e.g. one palette is located "below" the screen and is therefore inaccessible.

I wonder if anybody could understand this :-)

Well, yes!
What you could do is to have two (oh, man what was that name again. Something with PageStream. Now looking into the depth of my computer: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\PageStream5) PageStream5.ini. And keep them separately!

One with the present sentence: SETAPPFRAMESTATE AT 0 0 1412 1163 NORMAL (or whatever it says)
And one with a smaller version: SETAPPFRAMESTATE AT 0 0 669 817 NORMAL (or whatever)

When using your laptop you should use the 'smaller version' of PageStream5.ini (Copy-Paste). Maybe also do this with all those Palettes, Toolbar...
(the bad is, you loose the recent opened files in File/Open Recent).
What you also could do, is before closing down your 'monitored  PGS', deliberate making the PGS-window smaller.

Lets wait, what Deron comes up with (the new version: let say opening a standard screens, and you can align them to your preferences. Also good for the ons in a lifetime disappearing of the document-window. Which didn't happen with me for years. Knock, knock...), a better approach.
Because this is work you don't want to do all the time.

Do you understand this? ;)

Theo

/ Uffe

Den 23. jan. 2015, Joseph Hogan joehogan@gmx.com [PageStreamSupport] <pagestreamsupport@yahoogroups.com> skrev:

Hello,

I had a short exchange with Derek and he asked a question to which I did not have an answer, as I use the software at such a basic level, for small personal projects.

I really want the software to work with my OS, as things break sometimes.  I am willing to pay for this so that I can continue using the software that I know how to use.

My question is:

Besides making the software just "work" with the latest OS (Mac, or Windows, what ever):

What concrete feature do you see needing to be added?


Please be serious and realist.  Derek is looking for a list of feature desired by users.

I just want it to work, and I am willing to pay to make it work with new version of my Mac.


What do YOU want?


Joseph

-- 
Redacteur, vertaler, illustrator bij Ligfiets.net

-- 
Redacteur, vertaler, illustrator bij Ligfiets.net

Hello woodenflutes@yahoo.ca,

I'd agree that all those bug-fixes need being fixed, but it's all very well us saying this and
that needs fixing, but where is Deron during all this 'chatter', as he is the one that needs to
agree he has 'dropped the ball' on his own project, and let many of us down badly.

I paid for the Amiga version for a v5.x.x.x to be created, and even though, supposedly as a
stop-gap Deron gave me a licence for the PC version, which I have used, I was still hoping for
an Amiga version to materialise that actually functions, and doesn't keep crashing.

It is no good Deron saying he will create an OS4 version, and a new Amiga and MorphOS version,
but the ones he wrote just don't work, and even the PC version has it's own issues, as have
already been mentioned.

I was interested in a Mac OSX version, but the one he wrote is only useable on an Intel CPU'd
Mac system, so having a G4 system that version is of no use to me either.

I'd also like to see the documentation for the program made available again, as a PDF, so that
the whole manual could be printed out as required, with a contents, and index, etc. but the v4
PDF of the Pagestream documentation is not even on the Pagestream site anymore, so that
too needs to be updated, and made available on the website.

I hope we get some response from Deron, as that is where these messages need to reach and
resonate, so that this program does not get lost in the mists of time.

Possibly, if Deron has lost his desire to continue its development, then he should consider
selling it off to someone/company to continue to develop it, as ImageFX and Aladdin4D have been,
&/or possibly get paid to contribute to its future. Or if Deron is still committed to its future
then he should get that under control while still the owner of the program and develop it so that
we can all use it, and be as proud to use it as before - when it used to work as it should, which
was basically back at version 4, I sadly have to say.

I use the PDF filter that was part of v4 a lot, but find the v5 PDF is generally unstable,
though it is supposed to interpret/import newer versions of PDF I'd like to see all the
stability issues resolved. Keeping the program available for all the platform/OS's he does was
always going to be frought with latent issues/bugs, and I was always surprised to see Deron take
on so many of the main OS's of the day, and not get too concerned that he was 'biting off more
than he could chew', IMHO.

Anyway, I hope new or fixed issues of Pagestream do materialise, as I really get a lot of use
out of the program (v4 Pro), and I'd like to see a return on the money I invested in supporting
the future of the program, for the platform I paid towards its continued development of.

Neil

On 26/01/2015, you wrote:
> Here's what I would like:

> Bug fixes for WIndows 5.0.5.8 (or whatever the latest version is for that platform):

> - PNG transparency bug fix.
> - BME editor in Windows bug fix (BME starts with error, won't run - discussed in this forum)
> - Bug fix when requesting that bitmaps be resized upon (PDF?) export (Pagestream does not
> resize the images at all even though a resize resolution has been specified). - Bug fix for
> replacing/substituting images function - when an image has been cropped within PageStream the
> replacement image does not size to frame properly.
> New features:

> - SVG import / export.

> Brent
Regards