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2005-01-26 07:53:39 CT #1
Anders Drejer
From: Denmark
Registered: 2006-02-16
Posts: 86

I have just updated my Mandrake 10.1 with the official updates from the
two weeks or so (af lot of KDE updates eg) and now PGS won't start. When
starting PGS from a shell I get no clue at all - no feedback in the
shell window. Anyone else has this problem?

--
Med venlig hilsen

Anders


2005-01-26 01:01:42 CT #2
David Herman
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-14
Posts: 94

On Tue January 25 2005 10:53 pm, Anders Drejer wrote:
> I have just updated my Mandrake 10.1 with the official updates from
> the two weeks or so (af lot of KDE updates eg) and now PGS won't
> start. When starting PGS from a shell I get no clue at all - no
> feedback in the shell window. Anyone else has this problem?

Just tried ipagestream 4.* and got a segfault. SuSE9.0, kde 3.3.91 (3.4
beta)

I don't use pagestream much any more, didn't ever work very consistently
under kde on suse, unpredictable, windows everywhere, crashes... I'm
kind of disappointed actually as I really liked 2.2 on the amiga. I
just don't feel that 4.1 on linux was ever finished before they started
selling 5.*

--
dh


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2005-01-26 12:59:32 CT #3
Anders Drejer
From: Denmark
Registered: 2006-02-16
Posts: 86

ons, 26 01 2005 kl. 01:01 -0800, skrev David Herman:
> On Tue January 25 2005 10:53 pm, Anders Drejer wrote:
> > I have just updated my Mandrake 10.1 with the official updates from
> > the two weeks or so (af lot of KDE updates eg) and now PGS won't
> > start. When starting PGS from a shell I get no clue at all - no
> > feedback in the shell window. Anyone else has this problem?
>
> Just tried ipagestream 4.* and got a segfault. SuSE9.0, kde 3.3.91 (3.4
> beta)
>
> I don't use pagestream much any more, didn't ever work very consistently
> under kde on suse, unpredictable, windows everywhere, crashes... I'm
> kind of disappointed actually as I really liked 2.2 on the amiga. I
> just don't feel that 4.1 on linux was ever finished before they started
> selling 5.*
>

Hmmmmm ..... I think I will checkout Scribus as my DTP bakcup program. I
have to start a new project in about one week, but will PGS be ready??

I have been using PGS (Amiga) since mid 90's I think, so it will break
my heart if I have to change to another DTP program ..... Sad(
--
Med venlig hilsen

Anders


2005-01-26 07:27:02 CT #4
Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 03:01 am, David Herman wrote:
> On Tue January 25 2005 10:53 pm, Anders Drejer wrote:
> > I have just updated my Mandrake 10.1 with the official updates from
> > the two weeks or so (af lot of KDE updates eg) and now PGS won't
> > start. When starting PGS from a shell I get no clue at all - no
> > feedback in the shell window. Anyone else has this problem?
>
> Just tried ipagestream 4.* and got a segfault. SuSE9.0, kde 3.3.91 (3.4
> beta)

Which version of 4?
>
> I don't use pagestream much any more, didn't ever work very consistently
> under kde on suse, unpredictable, windows everywhere, crashes... I'm
> kind of disappointed actually as I really liked 2.2 on the amiga. I
> just don't feel that 4.1 on linux was ever finished before they started
> selling 5.*

Up until quite recently the version I used was 4.1.6.21 on SuSE9.1 with KDE
3.2.1. My experience with SuSE is that trying to upgrade KDE outside of YaST
(which only does updates to the shipped version, not upgrades to newer
versions) causes serious problems (the last time I tried that I had to
reinstall it broke everything so completely).

The window location problem may be fixable in the client, but is definitely
the result of an interaction with themes and such because altering those
changes the behavior. I experimented and settled on a theme that caused the
least trouble.

With 5.0.1.36 I feel pretty comfortable with PgS 5, but I still have 4.1.6.21
as fall back.

Tim Doty

2005-01-26 07:36:16 CT #5
Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 05:59 am, Anders Drejer wrote:
> ons, 26 01 2005 kl. 01:01 -0800, skrev David Herman:
> > On Tue January 25 2005 10:53 pm, Anders Drejer wrote:
> > > I have just updated my Mandrake 10.1 with the official updates from
> > > the two weeks or so (af lot of KDE updates eg) and now PGS won't
> > > start. When starting PGS from a shell I get no clue at all - no
> > > feedback in the shell window. Anyone else has this problem?
> >
> > Just tried ipagestream 4.* and got a segfault. SuSE9.0, kde 3.3.91 (3.4
> > beta)
> >
> > I don't use pagestream much any more, didn't ever work very consistently
> > under kde on suse, unpredictable, windows everywhere, crashes... I'm
> > kind of disappointed actually as I really liked 2.2 on the amiga. I
> > just don't feel that 4.1 on linux was ever finished before they started
> > selling 5.*
>
> Hmmmmm ..... I think I will checkout Scribus as my DTP bakcup program. I
> have to start a new project in about one week, but will PGS be ready??

Let me know what you determine with Scribus. I don't have the time to keep up
with it, but the last time I checked it was rather much a joke or I'm less
than capable of using applications (text attributes belonged to the frame,
not the text).

I can't speak to your problems with Mandrake 10, but more in general have you
tried renaming your prefs file? A couple of times changes to PgS have
impacted loading the printer lines from the prefs file.

> I have been using PGS (Amiga) since mid 90's I think, so it will break
> my heart if I have to change to another DTP program ..... Sad(

Well, it needs to work for you to be usable. I know PgS isn't perfect, but for
me its capabilities outweigh its inconveniences. But that is a balance that
is likely to be different for each person.

Tim Doty


2005-01-26 16:54:10 CT #6
Bertold
From: Unknown
Registered: 2003-07-02
Posts: 74

Anders Drejer:

>I have just updated my Mandrake 10.1 with the official updates from the
>two weeks or so (af lot of KDE updates eg) and now PGS won't start. When
>starting PGS from a shell I get no clue at all - no feedback in the
>shell window. Anyone else has this problem?
>
>
>
I have Debian Sarge with KDE 3.3 and PgS 4.1.6.36pro. I dont see any
KDE-related problems. Maybe Madrake port of KDE fault?

Bertold

2005-01-26 08:11:26 CT #7
David Herman
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-14
Posts: 94

On Wed January 26 2005 5:27 am, Tim Doty wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 January 2005 03:01 am, David Herman wrote:
> > On Tue January 25 2005 10:53 pm, Anders Drejer wrote:
> > > I have just updated my Mandrake 10.1 with the official updates
> > > from the two weeks or so (af lot of KDE updates eg) and now PGS
> > > won't start. When starting PGS from a shell I get no clue at all
> > > - no feedback in the shell window. Anyone else has this problem?
> >
> > Just tried ipagestream 4.* and got a segfault. SuSE9.0, kde 3.3.91
> > (3.4 beta)
>
> Which version of 4?
4.1.6.21 pro (ordered when first available, guess I got the pro version
in lieu of the cd)

> > I don't use pagestream much any more, didn't ever work very
> > consistently under kde on suse, unpredictable, windows everywhere,
> > crashes... I'm kind of disappointed actually as I really liked 2.2
> > on the amiga. I just don't feel that 4.1 on linux was ever finished
> > before they started selling 5.*
>
> Up until quite recently the version I used was 4.1.6.21 on SuSE9.1
> with KDE 3.2.1. My experience with SuSE is that trying to upgrade KDE
> outside of YaST (which only does updates to the shipped version, not
> upgrades to newer versions) causes serious problems (the last time I
> tried that I had to reinstall it broke everything so completely).

I use apt4suse to keep up to date and anything broken has been due to my
not paying attention. The segfault mentioned above happened with the
most recent 3.3.3.91 (3.4 beta) so I can't nescessarily point the
finger at pagestream for that one, it was mor informational and a
confirmation of Anders experience.

> The window location problem may be fixable in the client, but is
> definitely the result of an interaction with themes and such because
> altering those changes the behavior. I experimented and settled on a
> theme that caused the least trouble.

Yes I had found that SOME pagestream window problems were definitely
theme/style dependent. Pagestream seemed to really dislike any style
that made your desktop look "Mac like" (baghira). Still, Pagestream is
the only program that I know of that is definitetly affected by these
styles.

> With 5.0.1.36 I feel pretty comfortable with PgS 5, but I still have
> 4.1.6.21 as fall back.

I finally pretty much gave up on Pagestream (4.1.6.21 pro) about a month
ago. My 14 year old daughter asked if there was a program she could do
some curved text with, some effects like msPunisher. I told her to try
Pagestream (at that time using SuSE9.0, kde3.3.3 stable, no fancy
window styles). I helped her for awhile, after working for a bit, any
time she selected text the whole block would stay black and nothing we
did would reveal the original object. We did not try saving, quitting,
re-starting and then re-loading the document but if that is nescessary
for the program to work then it's not finished.

Eventually I think she used scribus or inkscape to complete the project.

I used to actively discuss bugs on this list and was happy w/ Derons
support but when the bug tracking system moved to bugtracker or
whatever it just became to much work. The system just wasn't very
intuitive.

--
dh


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


2005-01-26 12:01:08 CT #8
Deron Kazmaier
From: United States
Registered: 2006-01-29
Posts: 4639


>I have just updated my Mandrake 10.1 with the official updates from the
>two weeks or so (af lot of KDE updates eg) and now PGS won't start. When
>starting PGS from a shell I get no clue at all - no feedback in the
>shell window. Anyone else has this problem?

Hi Anders,

It should do something, but anything is possible. Do you have the latest
version (5.0.1.36) installed? You may need to either delete/rename the pref
file (located in ~/.PageStream/PageStream5.prefs) or reinstall PageStream
in case things got lost in the shuffle.

You might try running gdb from the shell. Type "gdb PageStream5Pro", then
type "r" (for run). It should trap any error. It might not make sense, but
it should say something.


> Med venlig hilsen
> Anders


Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream
DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows


2005-01-26 12:09:25 CT #9
Deron Kazmaier
From: United States
Registered: 2006-01-29
Posts: 4639


> > > > I have just updated my Mandrake 10.1 with the official updates
> > > > from the two weeks or so (af lot of KDE updates eg) and now PGS
> > > > won't start. When starting PGS from a shell I get no clue at all
> > > > - no feedback in the shell window. Anyone else has this problem?
> > >
> > > Just tried ipagestream 4.* and got a segfault. SuSE9.0, kde 3.3.91
> > > (3.4 beta)
> >
> > Which version of 4?
>4.1.6.21 pro (ordered when first available, guess I got the pro version
>in lieu of the cd)

Everyone got the Pro version who originally ordered and participated in all
the flurry of testing/fixing.

>I use apt4suse to keep up to date and anything broken has been due to my
>not paying attention. The segfault mentioned above happened with the
>most recent 3.3.3.91 (3.4 beta) so I can't nescessarily point the
>finger at pagestream for that one, it was mor informational and a
>confirmation of Anders experience.

Actually, I think Anders is just exiting, not crashing.

>Yes I had found that SOME pagestream window problems were definitely
>theme/style dependent. Pagestream seemed to really dislike any style
>that made your desktop look "Mac like" (baghira). Still, Pagestream is
>the only program that I know of that is definitetly affected by these
>styles.

I'm not familiar with all the theme names in KDE. Is Baghira a theme name?
If so, it is something I can try. I've never been able to reproduce the
random window placement problem.

> > With 5.0.1.36 I feel pretty comfortable with PgS 5, but I still have
> > 4.1.6.21 as fall back.
>
>I finally pretty much gave up on Pagestream (4.1.6.21 pro) about a month
>ago.

You should still have access to the latest release of 4.1 (4.1.6.36).

>I used to actively discuss bugs on this list and was happy w/ Derons
>support but when the bug tracking system moved to bugtracker or
>whatever it just became to much work. The system just wasn't very
>intuitive.

The bugzilla tracking system is certainly easier for me, and we have the
instructions and links on our website now, but I've never refused bug
reports from the lists. Also, you will see that I have released a couple
versions lately for 4.1, and more are coming.

So what are the bugs that are stopping you from using PageStream? Any one
else have a list of bugs/pet peeves?


>dh


Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream
DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows


2005-01-26 20:11:05 CT #10
Anders Drejer
From: Denmark
Registered: 2006-02-16
Posts: 86

ons, 26 01 2005 kl. 12:01 -0600, skrev PageStream Support:
>
> >I have just updated my Mandrake 10.1 with the official updates from the
> >two weeks or so (af lot of KDE updates eg) and now PGS won't start. When
> >starting PGS from a shell I get no clue at all - no feedback in the
> >shell window. Anyone else has this problem?
>
> Hi Anders,
>
> It should do something, but anything is possible. Do you have the latest
> version (5.0.1.36) installed? You may need to either delete/rename the pref
> file (located in ~/.PageStream/PageStream5.prefs) or reinstall PageStream
> in case things got lost in the shuffle.

Deleting the prefs file did the trick - thank you. Also my version was
5.0.1.35 ..... has this list been informed about the latest version ???
Anyway PGS is back on my computer Smile

--
Med venlig hilsen

Anders


2005-01-26 13:30:30 CT #11
Deron Kazmaier
From: United States
Registered: 2006-01-29
Posts: 4639


> > >I have just updated my Mandrake 10.1 with the official updates from the
> > >two weeks or so (af lot of KDE updates eg) and now PGS won't start. When
> > >starting PGS from a shell I get no clue at all - no feedback in the
> > >shell window. Anyone else has this problem?
> >
> > Hi Anders,
> >
> > It should do something, but anything is possible. Do you have the latest
> > version (5.0.1.36) installed? You may need to either delete/rename the
> pref
> > file (located in ~/.PageStream/PageStream5.prefs) or reinstall PageStream
> > in case things got lost in the shuffle.
>
>Deleting the prefs file did the trick - thank you. Also my version was
>5.0.1.35 ..... has this list been informed about the latest version ???
>Anyway PGS is back on my computer Smile

Well, if not, you have been now Smile .36 is definitely worth downloading,
and .37 is not far behind. I've got Windows and Linux 100% in sync now, so
it is very easy to make simultaneous releases.

> Med venlig hilsen
> Anders


Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream
DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows


2005-01-26 19:26:59 CT #12
Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 10:11 am, David Herman wrote:
[snip]
> I use apt4suse to keep up to date and anything broken has been due to my
> not paying attention. The segfault mentioned above happened with the
> most recent 3.3.3.91 (3.4 beta) so I can't nescessarily point the
> finger at pagestream for that one, it was mor informational and a
> confirmation of Anders experience.

Understood.

[snip]
> I finally pretty much gave up on Pagestream (4.1.6.21 pro) about a month
> ago. My 14 year old daughter asked if there was a program she could do
> some curved text with, some effects like msPunisher. I told her to try
> Pagestream (at that time using SuSE9.0, kde3.3.3 stable, no fancy
> window styles). I helped her for awhile, after working for a bit, any
> time she selected text the whole block would stay black and nothing we
> did would reveal the original object. We did not try saving, quitting,
> re-starting and then re-loading the document but if that is nescessary
> for the program to work then it's not finished.

Agreed. I don't have much call for text on a curve, but my experience with PgS
is that this is "shallowly" developed feature. It works at first, but don't
go trying to edit it. Although this will work to a limited extent it is easy
to get bad results. The last time I tried something with it I duplicated the
text before applying the FX and then when I tweaked I would do it on a
duplicate of the original.

[snip]
> I used to actively discuss bugs on this list and was happy w/ Derons
> support but when the bug tracking system moved to bugtracker or
> whatever it just became to much work. The system just wasn't very
> intuitive.

I like the fact I can search for bugs easier than filtering through the
general noise of a list (not that it hasn't kept me from embarrassing myself
with duplicate reports ;^)

But the list is still available and Deron still reads it. I think his
responsiveness is often impacted by programming... its an up and down to have
direct access to the programmer.

Tim Doty

2005-01-26 22:58:55 CT #13
David Herman
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-14
Posts: 94


First off I'd like to repeat/ clarify that although a couple of my
previous mails may have had a harsh tone I really appreciate the time
and effort you (Deron) have spent working on problems that people have
brought up. You have always been very responsive and your dedication is
appreciated.

>>DH wrote
> >Yes I had found that SOME pagestream window problems were definitely
> >theme/style dependent. Pagestream seemed to really dislike any style
> >that made your desktop look "Mac like" (baghira). Still, Pagestream
> > is the only program that I know of that is definitetly affected by
> > these styles.

I should have said, the only progran that I have come across that had
problems w/ those styles.

> I'm not familiar with all the theme names in KDE. Is Baghira a theme
> name? If so, it is something I can try. I've never been able to
> reproduce the random window placement problem.

Technically Baghira is a style and a window decoration
Once I figured out that the window decoration and style (Baghira) I was
using was causing problems I just switched to something that worked.
The Baghira style is similar to the Mac aqua look. It's akin to one of
gnomes themes but kde splits things into window decorations (the actual
frame with its few control buttons), styles (buttons, sliders, things
inside the window), and the other preferences like icons and fonts. All
of these can be saved together as a single theme.

It's been awhile since I used Baghira or Aqua like themes but I felt
that the problems I experienced were probably due to the re-shaping of
buttons by the style.


> >I finally pretty much gave up on Pagestream (4.1.6.21 pro) about a
> > month ago.
>
> You should still have access to the latest release of 4.1 (4.1.6.36).

I'll give it a try, right now I feel that the beta of kde3.4 is not a
reliable test bed for other programs though.

> >I used to actively discuss bugs on this list and was happy w/ Derons
> >support but when the bug tracking system moved to bugtracker or
> >whatever it just became to much work. The system just wasn't very
> >intuitive.
>
> The bugzilla tracking system is certainly easier for me, and we have
> the instructions and links on our website now, but I've never refused
> bug reports from the lists. Also, you will see that I have released a
> couple versions lately for 4.1, and more are coming.

Guess I fell out of touch. When the bugzilla system was introduced it
just seemed like more trouble than I had time for and any time I tried
to participate in it I just felt like I went in circles (due to my own
lack of understanding how it works). And was never able to get my input
accepted.

> So what are the bugs that are stopping you from using PageStream? Any
> one else have a list of bugs/pet peeves?

I described one (which i'll repeat here in a moment) in a previous mail,
let me first admit that I do not use publishing or word processors
much, my wife and daughter both seem pretty comfortable w/ msPunisher,
but their it support person (me) is not very willing to help them w/
problems they might have w/ m$ products.

My biggest disappointment is that when they want to use a dtp program I
cannot just say to them, "use Pagestream, it will do what you need."
The few times I've tried that we've ran into problems that made the
project more trouble than nescessary.

The most recent problem had to do with window refreshing, and occured
using KDE3.3.3 stable on SuSE9.0
(from memory) My daughter and I entered some text, resized it , chose a
font, and then used one of the FX to shape the text. When we selected
the text object again nothing we did would cause the text to be visible
again, it just remained a black blob in the window. We tried
iconifying, windowshading, dragging and scrolling the window contents
but couldn't view the text any longer.

I can't try it again right now since the KDE beta (3.4) seems to have
its own problems but to the best of my recollection that was what
happened. I'll try downloading the most recent Pagestream 4.1.* and see
what happens.

Hope this info is useful
Have a good evening


--
dh


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2005-01-27 07:09:40 CT #14
Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:58 am, David Herman wrote:
[snip]
> The most recent problem had to do with window refreshing, and occured
> using KDE3.3.3 stable on SuSE9.0
> (from memory) My daughter and I entered some text, resized it , chose a
> font, and then used one of the FX to shape the text. When we selected
> the text object again nothing we did would cause the text to be visible
> again, it just remained a black blob in the window. We tried
> iconifying, windowshading, dragging and scrolling the window contents
> but couldn't view the text any longer.

The Refresh Window script is how I force PgS to redraw its screen. It comes by
default to F10, but I changed the binding to F5 (in the Script Palette,
select the script and then choose to edit it). Sounds like a bug in TextFX in
the version you were using. I have identified (and reported via bugzilla) a
bug with the shapes that have three lines, but they still display text.

> I can't try it again right now since the KDE beta (3.4) seems to have
> its own problems but to the best of my recollection that was what
> happened. I'll try downloading the most recent Pagestream 4.1.* and see
> what happens.

My linux system is SuSE 9.1 with KDE 3.2.1, but I now have it on another
system with SuSE 9.2 and KDE 3.3. That copy hasn't seen much use yet, but
there haven't been problems either. Give it a try.

A final note: I have to make a symlink for PgS to be able to see Python in
SuSE. This is true in 9.0, 9.1 and 9.2.

Tim Doty

2005-01-28 08:12:55 CT #15
David Herman
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-14
Posts: 94

On Thu January 27 2005 5:09 am, Tim Doty wrote:
> On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:58 am, David Herman wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > The most recent problem had to do with window refreshing, and

> The Refresh Window script is how I force PgS to redraw its screen. It
> comes by default to F10, but I changed the binding to F5 (in the
> Script Palette, select the script and then choose to edit it). Sounds
> like a bug in TextFX in the version you were using. I have identified
> (and reported via bugzilla) a bug with the shapes that have three
> lines, but they still display text.
----------snip------------
> A final note: I have to make a symlink for PgS to be able to see
> Python in SuSE. This is true in 9.0, 9.1 and 9.2.

For those who have been following this thread, I d'loaded and installed
the most recent archive (4.1.6.36pro). Started it up (SuSE9.0, kde
3.4beta) and I am glad to report that it started up and appears to work
as it should.

I tried re-creating the screen refresh problem I reported and was glad
to see that it did not come back. I showed my daughter and she said
"Great, I can do my project now" (She's such a suck up!).

I'm happy, she's happy...

BTW Tim what was the symlink that you created for Python, I've had
numerous problems getting python related programs to install lately,
maybe your symlink would help.

One more thing, when the PageStream Navigator window pops up it shows
the message "file:///opt/pgs/41/PageStream4%20Tips" rather than the
actual tip. I know I had this working once before but I don't remember
what I did. Not a big deal but it would be nice to have the proper tip
shown just the same

Thanks all
--
dh


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2005-01-28 17:25:58 CT #16
Tim Doty
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 2939

On Friday 28 January 2005 10:12 am, David Herman wrote:
[snip]
> For those who have been following this thread, I d'loaded and installed
> the most recent archive (4.1.6.36pro). Started it up (SuSE9.0, kde
> 3.4beta) and I am glad to report that it started up and appears to work
> as it should.
>
> I tried re-creating the screen refresh problem I reported and was glad
> to see that it did not come back. I showed my daughter and she said
> "Great, I can do my project now" (She's such a suck up!).

I'm glad its working for you.
>
> I'm happy, she's happy...

;^)

> BTW Tim what was the symlink that you created for Python, I've had
> numerous problems getting python related programs to install lately,
> maybe your symlink would help.

# ln -s /usr/lib/libpython2.3.so.1.0 /usr/lib/libpython2.3.so

Most libraries seem to already have a link to the current subversion, but not
Python so I have to create it manually.

> One more thing, when the PageStream Navigator window pops up it shows
> the message "file:///opt/pgs/41/PageStream4%20Tips" rather than the
> actual tip. I know I had this working once before but I don't remember
> what I did. Not a big deal but it would be nice to have the proper tip
> shown just the same

I take it you are installing PgS in /opt/pgs/41 ? If not, then that would be
the problem (a mis-match between where it is installed and where it thinks
the tips are).

OTOH it looks to me like a Gnome-ified path (the "file://" prefix and the
"%20" for the space) which won't work if the file is being opened via normal
means. If so it may be a bug that slipped into PgS4? I can try downloading
the latest version of 4 later on and see what it does for me.

Tim Doty
>
> Thanks all

2005-01-28 12:32:37 CT #17
Deron Kazmaier
From: United States
Registered: 2006-01-29
Posts: 4639


>For those who have been following this thread, I d'loaded and installed
>the most recent archive (4.1.6.36pro). Started it up (SuSE9.0, kde
>3.4beta) and I am glad to report that it started up and appears to work
>as it should.
>
>I tried re-creating the screen refresh problem I reported and was glad
>to see that it did not come back. I showed my daughter and she said
>"Great, I can do my project now" (She's such a suck up!).
>
>I'm happy, she's happy...

Then I'm happy Smile

>BTW Tim what was the symlink that you created for Python, I've had
>numerous problems getting python related programs to install lately,
>maybe your symlink would help.
>
>One more thing, when the PageStream Navigator window pops up it shows
>the message "file:///opt/pgs/41/PageStream4%20Tips" rather than the
>actual tip. I know I had this working once before but I don't remember
>what I did. Not a big deal but it would be nice to have the proper tip
>shown just the same

Sounds like the Tips file is missing. If you follow that path, do you find
the file name as listed above (PageStream4 Tips)?

>Thanks all
>--
>dh


Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream
DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows


2005-01-28 21:56:08 CT #18
David Herman
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-14
Posts: 94

On Fri January 28 2005 10:32 am, PageStream Support wrote:
--------snip---------
>
> Sounds like the Tips file is missing. If you follow that path, do you
> find the file name as listed above (PageStream4 Tips)?

Yes the file was there

It turned out to be a file permissions problem. I remembered that I'd
had to make a simple change in the past, just couldn't remember what.

For some reason the tips file when extracted from the archive was only
readable by root. All working now. (originally owner root, group root,
rwx,---,--- now rwx,r-x,r-x)

Not sure why others haven't run into this...

Thanks, see ya
--
dh


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2005-01-28 22:01:59 CT #19
David Herman
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-14
Posts: 94

On Fri January 28 2005 3:25 pm, Tim Doty wrote:
> On Friday 28 January 2005 10:12 am, David Herman wrote:
> [snip]
>

>
> > BTW Tim what was the symlink that you created for Python, I've had
> > numerous problems getting python related programs to install
> > lately, maybe your symlink would help.
>
> # ln -s /usr/lib/libpython2.3.so.1.0 /usr/lib/libpython2.3.so
>
> Most libraries seem to already have a link to the current subversion,
> but not Python so I have to create it manually.

That's what I have, I suspect the python problems I've encountered may
be deeper rooted than I care to deal with right now.

Thanks for the link though

See ya
--
dh


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2005-01-29 12:51:06 CT #20
chufarj
From: Unknown
Registered: 2006-06-08
Posts: 30

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 01:09 pm, PageStream Support wrote:
> So what are the bugs that are stopping you from using PageStream? Any one
> else have a list of bugs/pet peeves?

I am having a bit of difficulty in the Figure Marks management.

To be specific.

1) When adding a Figure Mark,

1.1) I cannot click in the text box to 'Name' the Figure, but can TAB to the
field, the type it in.

1.2) The Name and Type labels are overlapping

See:
http://mysite.verizon.net/res8bbco/FM/InsertFigureMark.jpg

1.3) Cannot see the gadget that lets me set the Figure Type, but if I click on
the right side (somewhat 'blindly') of the text box the Figure Type Editor is
displayed.

See:
http://mysite.verizon.net/res8bbco/FM/DefineFigureTypes.jpg

1.4) I can add a new Figure Type to the list. - OK, i.e. "Shapes"

1.5) But when the new Type (Drawing) is selected for a figure it doesn't
'stick' and the Figure Type is set to "No-Figure-Type, which I only know when
I Go to Edit - Definition - Figure Types - Marks. The Figure Marks is
associated with "No-Figure-Type" instead of the one I set it to.

See:
http://mysite.verizon.net/res8bbco/FM/DefineFigureTypeMarks.jpg

2) Figure Numbering
2.1) The number shown associated with the first figure is zero.
See:
http://mysite.verizon.net/res8bbco/FM/InsertFigureNumber.jpg

2.2) The number that appears when I insert the number on screen is also a
zero as in this screen: (underneath the shaded rectangle)
See:
http://mysite.verizon.net/res8bbco/FM/InsertedTOF.jpg

2.3) The actual inserted TOF shows the correct figure number (Figure 1) but
shows that the type is indeed a <no ifugre type> when I actually made it a
"Shape" type.

Setup for Generate TOF:
http://mysite.verizon.net/res8bbco/FM/GenerateTOF.jpg

Result: (same link as 2.2)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res8bbco/FM/InsertedTOF.jpg

The document I created for this test.
http://mysite.verizon.net/res8bbco/FM/FM-Test.pgs

3) My version info.
PGS:
http://mysite.verizon.net/res8bbco/FM/PGSVersion.jpg

OS:
chufarj@lt2:~> uname -a
Linux lt2 2.6.5-7.111.30-default #1 Fri Jan 14 12:58:46 UTC 2005 i686 i686
i386 GNU/Linux
(SuSE 9.1)

KDE:
http://mysite.verizon.net/res8bbco/FM/KDEVersion.jpg

4) Thanks for any help.

John

2005-02-06 22:14:26 CT #21
chufarj
From: Unknown
Registered: 2006-06-08
Posts: 30

Hi,

I have Pagestream 5.0.1.36 Pro 1/11/05, but am unable to get any TextFX to
work (or even appear as an option).

After:

1) Creating text block.
2) Clicking on Object Tool (pointer)
3) Clicking on FX button of Edit pallet, all I get are these options:

Window, that is Titled - Text Fame Options

Columns, Customer Widths, Gutter,
Margins= Left, Right, Top, Bottom.

Is this disabled in Linux or am I missing something?

Thanks for ANY help!

Regards

John

2005-02-06 22:11:46 CT #22
Deron Kazmaier
From: United States
Registered: 2006-01-29
Posts: 4639


>I have Pagestream 5.0.1.36 Pro 1/11/05, but am unable to get any TextFX to
>work (or even appear as an option).
>
>After:
>
>1) Creating text block.
>2) Clicking on Object Tool (pointer)
>3) Clicking on FX button of Edit pallet, all I get are these options:
>
>Window, that is Titled - Text Fame Options

You need to create a frameless text object, but a column/text block. To do
that, just click on a blank portion of the page with the text tool and type
away!

>Columns, Customer Widths, Gutter,
>Margins= Left, Right, Top, Bottom.

Those are the object->frame->text options.


>Is this disabled in Linux or am I missing something?
>
>Thanks for ANY help!
>
>Regards
>
>John


Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream
DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows


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