Hello,

A little while back someone stated that I was the one to talk to concerning
running Pgs on a 64bit AMD system. At the time I stated that I could only get
it to run on my desktop system (Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy) and that I could not get it
to run on my AMD64 bit laptop with Ubuntu 6.06 Breezy. I speculated then that
the problem may be  that Breezy was using an older version of the kernel
(26.15.xx). I further stated that my reluctance to upgrade was because lost
everything on the desktop due to the upgrade (well that happened again when I
upgraded the laptop) BUT.... PageStream runs just fine now on the Unbuntu
6.10 system with the 26.17.xx kernel. The error I recieved on the older setup
was what had be discussed at length recently here, the ole can't find
liblinc.... die error. Sooo I guess I was correct when I guessed that to be
the problem.. anyway I am happieeeee )).

Richard

On Friday 09 March 2007 8:48 pm, richard wrote:
> The error I recieved on the older setup
> was what had be discussed at length recently here, the ole can't find
> liblinc.... die error.
So, maybe the liblinc call is a secondary call in the operating system and NOT
Deron's at all?
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On Friday 09 March 2007 14:07, Gary Lee Smith wrote:
> On Friday 09 March 2007 8:48 pm, richard wrote:
> > The error I recieved on the older setup
> > was what had be discussed at length recently here, the ole can't find
> > liblinc.... die error.
>
> So, maybe the liblinc call is a secondary call in the operating system and
> NOT Deron's at all?

Heh... your guess is as good as mine. I began to suspect the kernel when Pgs
would run just fine on the SUSE 10.2 install which used the newer kernel,
whereas Pgs would not run under Ubuntu 6.06 which was using an older version.

Richard wrote:

> Heh... your guess is as good as mine. I began to suspect the kernel when Pgs
> would run just fine on the SUSE 10.2 install which used the newer kernel,
> whereas Pgs would not run under Ubuntu 6.06 which was using an older version.

Just to add mud to the water: before moving to Ubuntu 6.10, I had PGS5
(not Pro) running happily with 6.06 both on AMD K6-II and P-III desktop
boxes. No kernel issues that I could see.
--
Mike Wilson

On Saturday 10 March 2007 12:10, Michael R. Wilson wrote:
> Richard wrote:
> > Heh... your guess is as good as mine. I began to suspect the kernel when
> > Pgs would run just fine on the SUSE 10.2 install which used the newer
> > kernel, whereas Pgs would not run under Ubuntu 6.06 which was using an
> > older version.
>
> Just to add mud to the water: before moving to Ubuntu 6.10, I had PGS5
> (not Pro) running happily with 6.06 both on AMD K6-II and P-III desktop
> boxes. No kernel issues that I could see.

Well it was an educated guess. The other difference I thought of after my last
post was that the desktop was using Ubuntu (Gnome) and the laptop was running
Kubuntu (KDE). It is now loaded with Ubuntu (Gnome). Didn't I see somewhere
that Deron had use Gnome during his build of Pgs? That is my last educated
guess .

On Saturday 10 March 2007 11:10, Michael R. Wilson wrote:
> Richard wrote:
> > Heh... your guess is as good as mine. I began to suspect the kernel when
> > Pgs would run just fine on the SUSE 10.2 install which used the newer
> > kernel, whereas Pgs would not run under Ubuntu 6.06 which was using an
> > older version.
>
> Just to add mud to the water: before moving to Ubuntu 6.10, I had PGS5
> (not Pro) running happily with 6.06 both on AMD K6-II and P-III desktop
> boxes. No kernel issues that I could see.

I really don't see how the kernel would have any effect. The version of gnome
and libraries associated with any particular version of a distro, sure.

Further, if memory serves PgS /never/ called liblinc -- it was always an
indirect dependency. Of course, if PgS exposes the fault then it gets blamed.
I don't feel like digging through old posts so I am going from memory, but I
believe the problem was the gnome folks deprecated liblinc, but didn't
actually remove all references to it from their code until a certain
revision.

Somewhat related a guy I know didn't like linux because whenever he tried to
compile software gcc would crash. Win95 ran fine on the same box. Turns out
it was bad RAM -- Win95 and applications never got to that point in address
space, but compile a large application and boom.

Tim Doty

On Saturday 10 March 2007 15:53, richard wrote:
> On Saturday 10 March 2007 12:10, Michael R. Wilson wrote:
> > Richard wrote:
> > > Heh... your guess is as good as mine. I began to suspect the kernel
> > > when Pgs would run just fine on the SUSE 10.2 install which used the
> > > newer kernel, whereas Pgs would not run under Ubuntu 6.06 which was
> > > using an older version.
> >
> > Just to add mud to the water: before moving to Ubuntu 6.10, I had PGS5
> > (not Pro) running happily with 6.06 both on AMD K6-II and P-III desktop
> > boxes. No kernel issues that I could see.
>
> Well it was an educated guess. The other difference I thought of after my
> last post was that the desktop was using Ubuntu (Gnome) and the laptop was
> running Kubuntu (KDE). It is now loaded with Ubuntu (Gnome). Didn't I see
> somewhere that Deron had use Gnome during his build of Pgs? That is my last
> educated guess .

Okay, PgS is now running on both of the AMD 64-bit systems I mentioned
previously. They did require 32-bit libraries be installed (e.g., libgnomeui
and company). Currently external scripting doesn't work and I'm assuming its
the same problem.

So, due to the fact that PgS is a 32-bit application it looks like running PgS
on a 64-bit linux kernel requires having 32-bit libraries (gnome, libgnomeui
and dependencies in particular, and python) to work. Judging from the
discussion on the list if there is a liblinc error make sure that you are
running a current version of PgS and Gnome.

Tim Doty

Not that it is important, now, but at one point I think it was an extraneous
compiler call, if I understood Deron correctly. Indeed, Gnome, at the time,
used the 64-bit version of liblinc. I was able to identify the actual PgS
lib that had the liblinc call in it, but I think Deron said it was not used
in PgS.

On Saturday 10 March 2007 5:25 pm, Tim Doty wrote:
> but I
> believe the problem was the gnome folks deprecated liblinc, but didn't
> actually remove all references to it from their code until a certain
> revision.

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