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2010-09-20 07:43:01 CT #1
Anders K Drejer
From: Unknown
Registered: 2006-01-13
Posts: 34

I have downloaded the new PageStream 5.0.5.7 and installed it to my
/opt directory just like the former version of PageStream. When I try to
run the new version (locked in as user Anders), nothing happens, and I
can see, that the icons for Run-PageStream5, PageStream5, BME and others
is "ghosted/broken". When I try to run the former version (from a
renamed directory in /opt) there is no problem ..... also the icons is
showed correct from this directory. Another strange thing is, that if I
doubleclick the compressed downloadfile to see the content of it, the
icons also is ghosted/broken!

If I lock in as root I have no problem running the new version and also
the icons shows correct.

I have used PageStream for several years without any problems ...... is
there something new (not documented) in the installation procedures?

Anders

2010-09-20 09:32:58 CT #2
Jan Simonson
From: Sweden
Registered: 2006-02-10
Posts: 69

måndag 20 september 2010 07.43.01 skrev du:
> I have downloaded the new PageStream 5.0.5.7 and installed it to my
> /opt directory just like the former version of PageStream. When I try to
> run the new version (locked in as user Anders), nothing happens, and I
> can see, that the icons for Run-PageStream5, PageStream5, BME and others
> is "ghosted/broken". When I try to run the former version (from a
> renamed directory in /opt) there is no problem ..... also the icons is
> showed correct from this directory. Another strange thing is, that if I
> doubleclick the compressed downloadfile to see the content of it, the
> icons also is ghosted/broken!
>
> If I lock in as root I have no problem running the new version and also
> the icons shows correct.
This looks like a permission problem. Check ownership and permissions of the
new directory and files. I would recommend root:root rwxr-xr-x

> I have used PageStream for several years without any problems ...... is
> there something new (not documented) in the installation procedures?
Maybe you have used a different program/command to unpack PageStream?

Also sometimes it has happened that Deron has set them somewhat off before
packing the release but I can not remember having any problems with 5.0.5.7.

Regards
Jan
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Jan Simonson

2010-09-20 12:53:42 CT #3
Anders K Drejer
From: Unknown
Registered: 2006-01-13
Posts: 34

Den 20-09-2010 09:32, Jan Simonson skrev:
>
> måndag 20 september 2010 07.43.01 skrev du:
> > I have downloaded the new PageStream 5.0.5.7 and installed it to my
> > /opt directory just like the former version of PageStream. When I try to
> > run the new version (locked in as user Anders), nothing happens, and I
> > can see, that the icons for Run-PageStream5, PageStream5, BME and others
> > is "ghosted/broken". When I try to run the former version (from a
> > renamed directory in /opt) there is no problem ..... also the icons is
> > showed correct from this directory. Another strange thing is, that if I
> > doubleclick the compressed downloadfile to see the content of it, the
> > icons also is ghosted/broken!
> >
> > If I lock in as root I have no problem running the new version and also
> > the icons shows correct.
> This looks like a permission problem. Check ownership and permissions
> of the
> new directory and files. I would recommend root:root rwxr-xr-x
>

It was all about permissions. Now it's up and running Smile


Regards,
Anders


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2010-09-20 14:38:53 CT #4
Dr. Heiko Pollmeier
From: Germany
Registered: 2006-10-19
Posts: 10

Hallo Anders,


Am 20.09.2010 schrieb Anders Drejer:

> Den 20-09-2010 09:32, Jan Simonson skrev:
>>
>> måndag 20 september 2010 07.43.01 skrev du:
>> > I have downloaded the new PageStream 5.0.5.7 and installed it to my
>> > /opt directory just like the former version of PageStream. When I
>> > try to un the new version (locked in as user Anders), nothing
>> > happens, and I an see, that the icons for Run-PageStream5,
>> > PageStream5, BME and others s "ghosted/broken". When I try to run
>> > the former version (from a enamed directory in /opt) there is no
>> > problem ..... also the icons is howed correct from this directory.
>> > Another strange thing is, that if I oubleclick the compressed
>> > downloadfile to see the content of it, the cons also is
>> > ghosted/broken! > > If I lock in as root I have no problem running
>> > the new version and also he icons shows correct.
>> This looks like a permission problem. Check ownership and permissions
>> of the
>> new directory and files. I would recommend root:root rwxr-xr-x
>>

> It was all about permissions. Now it's up and running Smile


> Regards,
> Anders

Have you tested the scripts portion? I thought also my problems beeing a
question of permissions.
With me there is no scripting. System here is Linux x86with PageStream5pro
5.0.5.7.
Neither the Scipts folder shows up nor the external scripts can be started.

Sincerely
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von/fromhttp://subkeys.pgp.net
<sb>

2010-09-20 08:37:47 CT #5
Deron Kazmaier
From: United States
Registered: 2006-01-29
Posts: 4639

On 9/20/10 4:53 AM, Anders Drejer wrote:
> Den 20-09-2010 09:32, Jan Simonson skrev:
>> måndag 20 september 2010 07.43.01 skrev du:
>>> I have downloaded the new PageStream 5.0.5.7 and installed it to my
>>> /opt directory just like the former version of PageStream. When I try to
>>> run the new version (locked in as user Anders), nothing happens, and I
>>> can see, that the icons for Run-PageStream5, PageStream5, BME and others
>>> is "ghosted/broken". When I try to run the former version (from a
>>> renamed directory in /opt) there is no problem ..... also the icons is
>>> showed correct from this directory. Another strange thing is, that if I
>>> doubleclick the compressed downloadfile to see the content of it, the
>>> icons also is ghosted/broken!
>>>
>>> If I lock in as root I have no problem running the new version and also
>>> the icons shows correct.
>> This looks like a permission problem. Check ownership and permissions
>> of the
>> new directory and files. I would recommend root:root rwxr-xr-x
>>
> It was all about permissions. Now it's up and running Smile
>
>
> Regards,
> Anders

Glad to hear! So was this something wrong with the archive?

Deron

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PageStream
DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows


2010-09-20 08:45:41 CT #6
Deron Kazmaier
From: United States
Registered: 2006-01-29
Posts: 4639


> Have you tested the scripts portion? I thought also my problems beeing a
> question of permissions.
> With me there is no scripting. System here is Linux x86with PageStream5pro
> 5.0.5.7.
> Neither the Scipts folder shows up nor the external scripts can be started.
>
> Sincerely
> Dr. Heiko Pollmeier
Hello,

I presume this worked for you in a prior release. Do you have an older
version that external scripting still works in? Just wondering if
something on your machine has changed.

I know that Tim Doty has had problems with the new 64bit version
requiring the Python library be specified in prefs, but that is all so
far (and nothing new to the 64bit version, as the first release external
scripting didn't work at all!)

Deron

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream
DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows


2010-09-20 15:30:24 CT #7
Dr. Heiko Pollmeier
From: Germany
Registered: 2006-10-19
Posts: 10

Hallo PageStream,


Am 20.09.2010 schrieb PageStream Support:


>> Have you tested the scripts portion? I thought also my problems
>> beeing a question of permissions.
>> With me there is no scripting. System here is Linux x86with
>> PageStream5pro 5.0.5.7.
>> Neither the Scipts folder shows up nor the external scripts can be
>> started.

>> Sincerely
>> Dr. Heiko Pollmeier
> Hello,

> I presume this worked for you in a prior release. Do you have an older
> version that external scripting still works in? Just wondering if
> something on your machine has changed.

> I know that Tim Doty has had problems with the new 64bit version
> requiring the Python library be specified in prefs, but that is all so
> far (and nothing new to the 64bit version, as the first release
> external scripting didn't work at all!)

> Deron

Yes, I had, but no more! Linux version new is Ubuntu LTS 10.4 .
I remember having had python2.5, but now due to upgrading to 10.4 there is
python 2.6.5-0ubuntu1.

Does this matter? 2.5 is no longer in the repository the alternative is
3.1.2-0ubunut1 .

Sincerely

--
<sb>
Dr. Heiko Pollmeier, Bonn <hpollmeier@dhps.de>
Bevorzugter PGP-Schlüssel / Preferred PGP key ID 0x09E0BEF8
von/fromhttp://subkeys.pgp.net
<sb>

2010-09-20 11:03:25 CT #8
Deron Kazmaier
From: United States
Registered: 2006-01-29
Posts: 4639

On 9/20/10 7:30 AM, Dr. Heiko Pollmeier wrote:
> Hallo PageStream,
>
>
> Am 20.09.2010 schrieb PageStream Support:
>
>
>>> Have you tested the scripts portion? I thought also my problems
>>> beeing a question of permissions.
>>> With me there is no scripting. System here is Linux x86with
>>> PageStream5pro 5.0.5.7.
>>> Neither the Scipts folder shows up nor the external scripts can be
>>> started.
>>> Sincerely
>>> Dr. Heiko Pollmeier
>> Hello,
>> I presume this worked for you in a prior release. Do you have an older
>> version that external scripting still works in? Just wondering if
>> something on your machine has changed.
>> I know that Tim Doty has had problems with the new 64bit version
>> requiring the Python library be specified in prefs, but that is all so
>> far (and nothing new to the 64bit version, as the first release
>> external scripting didn't work at all!)
>> Deron
> Yes, I had, but no more! Linux version new is Ubuntu LTS 10.4 .
> I remember having had python2.5, but now due to upgrading to 10.4 there is
> python 2.6.5-0ubuntu1.
>
Ah!

This seems to be getting to be a bigger and bigger problem. Everyone
wants to give the python library a different name. I added the pref item
so you can specify the library name (PYTHONLIBRARY <pythonlibraryfile>
<pythonversio, where 1013 is good for 2.6>, or you can create a link
from a more common name like "libpython2.6.so", which is what PageStream
is looking for.

I'm wondering if python is setting up some global shell variable for the
library name that PageStream could use to find it? Configure scripts
must find out somehow what the python library name is...

Crazy stuff...

Deron


> Does this matter? 2.5 is no longer in the repository the alternative is
> 3.1.2-0ubunut1 .
>
> Sincerely
>


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2010-09-20 21:31:02 CT #9
Anders K Drejer
From: Unknown
Registered: 2006-01-13
Posts: 34

Den 20-09-2010 16:37, PageStream Support skrev:
>
> On 9/20/10 4:53 AM, Anders Drejer wrote:
> > Den 20-09-2010 09:32, Jan Simonson skrev:
> >> måndag 20 september 2010 07.43.01 skrev du:
> >>> I have downloaded the new PageStream 5.0.5.7 and installed it to my
> >>> /opt directory just like the former version of PageStream. When I
> try to
> >>> run the new version (locked in as user Anders), nothing happens, and I
> >>> can see, that the icons for Run-PageStream5, PageStream5, BME and
> others
> >>> is "ghosted/broken". When I try to run the former version (from a
> >>> renamed directory in /opt) there is no problem ..... also the icons is
> >>> showed correct from this directory. Another strange thing is, that
> if I
> >>> doubleclick the compressed downloadfile to see the content of it, the
> >>> icons also is ghosted/broken!
> >>>
> >>> If I lock in as root I have no problem running the new version and
> also
> >>> the icons shows correct.
> >> This looks like a permission problem. Check ownership and permissions
> >> of the
> >> new directory and files. I would recommend root:root rwxr-xr-x
> >>
> > It was all about permissions. Now it's up and running Smile
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Anders
>
> Glad to hear! So was this something wrong with the archive?
>
> Deron
>
There is no permission problem when I unpack the archive from (and to)
my home directory. Only when logged in as root and installed to /opt
there is a permission problem when running PageStream logged in as user
anders. This has not been a problem in earlier releases.

Anders


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2010-09-20 22:11:20 CT #10
Jan Simonson
From: Sweden
Registered: 2006-02-10
Posts: 69

måndag 20 september 2010 skrev du:
> There is no permission problem when I unpack the archive from (and to)
> my home directory. Only when logged in as root and installed to /opt
> there is a permission problem when running PageStream logged in as user
> anders. This has not been a problem in earlier releases.

This most probably is because when you unpack PageStream the ownership is set to
whatever user you are at that moment. If you are anders it will get anders:users
(or anders:anders) and if you are root it will get root:root. Nothing new with
that, but if Deron has set permissions to -rwxr-x--- like in 5.0.5.7 only root
will be able to read anything unpacked by root. Changing the permission to
-rwxr-xr-x will make it possible for any user to read the PageStream files.

Deron, perhaps you should set permissions to -rwxr-xr-x before packing the
archive to avoid any problems for users not so familiar with permissions in
Linux?

Best regards
Jan
--
Jan Simonson

2010-09-21 08:32:39 CT #11
Bernd Felsche
From: Australia
Registered: 2006-05-01
Posts: 149

On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 01:03:25 Deron Kazmaier wrote:

> This seems to be getting to be a bigger and bigger problem.
> Everyone wants to give the python library a different name. I
> added the pref item so you can specify the library name
> (PYTHONLIBRARY <pythonlibraryfile> <pythonversio, where 1013 is
> good for 2.6>, or you can create a link from a more common name
> like "libpython2.6.so", which is what PageStream is looking for.

> I'm wondering if python is setting up some global shell variable
> for the library name that PageStream could use to find it?
> Configure scripts must find out somehow what the python library
> name is...

There isn't such an environment variable.
A non-python way to discover which libpython is installed, is to ask
the package management system. e.g. on RPM-based Linux:
rpm -ql python|grep libpython
That could be appropriate at installation time.

Dynamically (I'm sure that there's a library to do it more easily)
one can use python and have it look in its /proc/os.getpid()/maps
for entries containing "libpython".

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