Last night I started a long dissertation on PageStream 5.04.32 which,
after quoting an earlier post, began:

> I wasn't particularly specific about the behavior of the font
> substitution dialog and it occurs to me that perhaps I should be.

At the conclusion I said I'd be back today with a report on any changes
in PageStream's behavior after rebooting Windows XP. Well, there are some.

Everything looks fine on the surface when I open my old file. No font
substitution requestor appears. The document looks right. As I expected,
"System Preferences | Fonts" is empty just as it was at the end of the
night. Clicking on text in the document is reflected in the Edit Palette
and in the Styles Palette. That is, the correct typeface or style is
highlighted. Here's what is different:

Last night the font selector showed three "versions" of my font in the
preview font window: Eras Demi ITC (correct), Eras Demi ITC Regular, and
Eras Demi ITC Normal. Whatever they may be, neither of the latter show
up in other programs. Today, the "Normal" "variant" is gone from the
preview window, so I'm down to one ersatz font. The pop up list in the
Edit Palette shows Eras Demi ITC with two sub items, both named regular
So, the first difference between last night and just now, is that one of
the two unaccountable font variants has disappeared. So far so good.

The major downside is that font preview doesn't work. It displays sample
text composed in Eras Demi, but you can't change it. As with the font
substitution dialog that was appearing the very first time I started
this new version, font samples don't change regardless of what you do.
Nor do "changes" in this dialog impact the document.

On to a new, blank document. The problem is much the same. With font
preview nothing works. The Edit Palette pop-up is a little different,
however. It now shows submenus for the majority of fonts on my system.
All submenus contain an extra, nonexistent variant of the font
highlighted. Changing to any font that has a secondary drop-down has no
effect. But with the small number of fonts that don't show these extra
variants, you do get the font you request in the document.

I suppose the next test is to delete the new beta and try a fresh install?

HB

I can confirm other reports that after opening and modifying an old
document, that document can not be opened in any version, including the
most current beta. Also, after editing the document, when I tried to
open the older versions of Pagestream, they crashed to the desktop. A
reboot fixed this and it did not happen again.

I also noticed that I did no need to enter my account info when I first
ran the new beta. Is it reading the existing info from the other versions?

Peter

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Peter:

> ...I also noticed that I did no need to enter my account info when I first
> ran the new beta. Is it reading the existing info from the other versions?
>

I'm far from expert in this area, but I believe so. Beginning with the
previous beta (which I never installed), PageStream has been keeping
certain files in "Documents and Settings | _OwnerName_ | Application
Data | PageStream5 | PageStream5.ini," which is where Windows expects to
find that stuff. There are also files relating to fonts, dictionaries,
and Borders in there. Thus, they should be portable from one install to
another.

I think someone on the list said we could put certain other "system"
files in that directory if we wanted to.

With reference to my problems getting a proper install of my fonts, I'm
wondering if I overwrite the two font-related files in this directory
with ones that work in an earlier version (if there are direct
equivalents) or even the ones in the original zip directory (to give
PageStream a fresh start on installing fonts).

HB

Peter Bullock wrote:
> I can confirm other reports that after opening and modifying an old
> document, that document can not be opened in any version, including the
> most current beta. Also, after editing the document, when I tried to
> open the older versions of Pagestream, they crashed to the desktop. A
> reboot fixed this and it did not happen again.
>
> I also noticed that I did no need to enter my account info when I first
> ran the new beta. Is it reading the existing info from the other versions?
>
> Peter
>

Yes, you do not have to reenter your account. Even you don't have to
adjust your private placing of palettes, your own toolbar.
But this only happens with XP and Vista, and (!) if you have or had PGS
5.0.4.17 installed (that's where this behavior started).

The information is written Documents and Settings (XP) and your account
where you opened XP (or Vista) with.
For instance mine is in:
C:\Documents and Settings\Theo\Application Data\PageStream5
So my account is Theo.

Theo

Henry G Belot wrote:
> Peter:
>
>
>> ...I also noticed that I did no need to enter my account info when I first
>> ran the new beta. Is it reading the existing info from the other versions?
>>
>>
>
> I'm far from expert in this area, but I believe so. Beginning with the
> previous beta (which I never installed), PageStream has been keeping
> certain files in "Documents and Settings | _OwnerName_ | Application
> Data | PageStream5 | PageStream5.ini," which is where Windows expects to
> find that stuff. There are also files relating to fonts, dictionaries,
> and Borders in there. Thus, they should be portable from one install to
> another.
>

Ah, you already answered this.

> I think someone on the list said we could put certain other "system"
> files in that directory if we wanted to.
>

Borders, Dictionaries (the ones you added), Scripts (?).
If this is wrong, Deron will correct me.

> With reference to my problems getting a proper install of my fonts, I'm
> wondering if I overwrite the two font-related files in this directory
> with ones that work in an earlier version (if there are direct
> equivalents) or even the ones in the original zip directory (to give
> PageStream a fresh start on installing fonts).
>

I think that's the behavior: FontSubstitutionData and FontUsage are in:

Documents and Settings/OwnerName/Application/Data/PageStream5

I think I never saw FontUsage but I can guess what it does.
FontSubstitutionData collects what font I want to convert (or show) the not known fonts into.
You can even copy the old data from PGS 5.0.4.8, and older, UserPrefs folder into that folder, to have a good start.

> HB
>

Theo

Henry G Belot wrote:
> Last night I started a long dissertation on PageStream 5.04.32 which,
> after quoting an earlier post, began:
>
>
>> I wasn't particularly specific about the behavior of the font
>> substitution dialog and it occurs to me that perhaps I should be.
>>
>
> At the conclusion I said I'd be back today with a report on any changes
> in PageStream's behavior after rebooting Windows XP. Well, there are some.
>
> Everything looks fine on the surface when I open my old file. No font
> substitution requestor appears. The document looks right. As I expected,
> "System Preferences | Fonts" is empty just as it was at the end of the
> night. Clicking on text in the document is reflected in the Edit Palette
> and in the Styles Palette. That is, the correct typeface or style is
> highlighted. Here's what is different:
>
> Last night the font selector showed three "versions" of my font in the
> preview font window: Eras Demi ITC (correct), Eras Demi ITC Regular, and
> Eras Demi ITC Normal. Whatever they may be, neither of the latter show
> up in other programs. Today, the "Normal" "variant" is gone from the
> preview window, so I'm down to one ersatz font. The pop up list in the
> Edit Palette shows Eras Demi ITC with two sub items, both named regular
> So, the first difference between last night and just now, is that one of
> the two unaccountable font variants has disappeared. So far so good.
>
> The major downside is that font preview doesn't work. It displays sample
> text composed in Eras Demi, but you can't change it. As with the font
> substitution dialog that was appearing the very first time I started
> this new version, font samples don't change regardless of what you do.
> Nor do "changes" in this dialog impact the document.
>
> On to a new, blank document. The problem is much the same. With font
> preview nothing works. The Edit Palette pop-up is a little different,
> however. It now shows submenus for the majority of fonts on my system.
> All submenus contain an extra, nonexistent variant of the font
> highlighted. Changing to any font that has a secondary drop-down has no
> effect. But with the small number of fonts that don't show these extra
> variants, you do get the font you request in the document.
>
> I suppose the next test is to delete the new beta and try a fresh install?
>

You maybe have to delete some (?, or all?) the files in C:\Documents and
Settings\_Owner Name_\Application Data\PageStream5.
Because they are there still (with the wrong information).

Since PGS has no installer, when you delete (not deinstall) PGS, the
information in Document and Settings stay there.
A proper deinstalller would also delete this information (sometimes a
reboot is necessary).

Because my spelling does not know the word deinstall: it's the opposite
of install, installer, installing, so: removing my previous installation.

> HB
>

Theo

Peter Bullock wrote:
> I can confirm other reports that after opening and modifying an old
> document, that document can not be opened in any version, including the
> most current beta. Also, after editing the document, when I tried to
> open the older versions of Pagestream, they crashed to the desktop. A
> reboot fixed this and it did not happen again.
>

If you have a damaged document (plus original undamaged would be great
also) please archive them and send them to me at support@pagestream.org
so I can make sure that the next version has everything corrected.

Deron

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