Unfortunately, many of the additions require Mac screengrabs and I am using the Amiga version (phew!).

I would like to have a go at,

usingtext.html
charactersets.html
selectingtext.html

Some of this stuff, as in 'charactersets', is still in the original engineering Klingon, so I may hit difficulties due to a lack of understanding of the topic. I'll do my best.

I think an introduction to the user manual would be helpful.

It would explain that topics can be viewed either in the order they are presented in Pagestream menus or by topic and show how to toggle between presentation formats (and expand 'TOC' to 'Table of Contents' for us newbies!). Attention would also be drawn to the 'Browse' feature at the end of sections and the typical features to be found in this and the Common Questions area linked to it.

It should explain that the screenshots are from the Mac version, but that the same gadgets will appear in the same position in all operating system versions although the appearance may vary.

Finally, would it be of value to add to the 'how do I' items in each section?

Regards
Roy Leith

You mentioned the problem of screenshots. If someone needs to take new
screen shots, and they are not on the Mac, just go ahead and take a shot on
what ever platform you have. Just let me know, and I'll add them to a list
of screenshots that need to be redone. You can document with Amiga/Windows
screen shots, and we will be one step closer to having "localized"
screenshots as well.

>Unfortunately, many of the additions require Mac screengrabs and I am
>using the Amiga version (phew!).
>
>I would like to have a go at,
>
>usingtext.html
>charactersets.html
>selectingtext.html
>
>Some of this stuff, as in 'charactersets', is still in the original
>engineering Klingon, so I may hit difficulties due to a lack of
>understanding of the topic. I'll do my best.

OK Roy, I've got you marked for those 3 files. usingtext and selectingtext
should be pretty simple, so try those first if you can and get those back
in circulation. Keep an eye out for anything that might need mention of
table cells. Those files are unchanged, so you can use the ones in the
original archive I uploaded.

I'll give you all the help I can on the character sets stuff. It gives a
lot of flexibility to the customer dealing with multiple languages. English
speaking customers probably could care less!

>I think an introduction to the user manual would be helpful.
>
>It would explain that topics can be viewed either in the order they are
>presented in Pagestream menus or by topic and show how to toggle between
>presentation formats (and expand 'TOC' to 'Table of Contents' for us
>newbies!). Attention would also be drawn to the 'Browse' feature at the
>end of sections and the typical features to be found in this and the
>Common Questions area linked to it.
>
>It should explain that the screenshots are from the Mac version, but that
>the same gadgets will appear in the same position in all operating system
>versions although the appearance may vary.

Take a look at Help on Help in softlogik.html. It takes you to
HHVuser/navigating.html which covers the basics. It doesn't make reference
to PGS User specific items, but they could probably be added there since
all the manuals work the same. I could add the Help on Help button to the
main user guide. How about we put it there?

>Finally, would it be of value to add to the 'how do I' items in each section?

Yes, always! Especially for frequently asked questions

>Regards
>Roy Leith

Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Macintosh, and Windows

Deron

--- In PageStreamDocs@y..., Grasshopper Support <support@g...> wrote:
> You mentioned the problem of screenshots. If someone needs to take new
> screen shots, and they are not on the Mac, just go ahead and take a shot on
> what ever platform you have. Just let me know, and I'll add them to a list
> of screenshots that need to be redone. You can document with Amiga/Windows
> screen shots, and we will be one step closer to having "localized"
> screenshots as well.
>
Damn!

> >I would like to have a go at,
> >
> >usingtext.html

Uploaded. Has it survived the process?

> >charactersets.html

I am making progress, but I need the following in order to give an example of how an unsupported character is simulated,

A Pagestream document containing characters that are -not- available on my powerful Amiga computer. I already have access to acutes, graves, umlats, cedillas and those strange combinations of O and E etc. The only thing I can think of are the old symbols for Deutschmark and Franc, but I suppose all you have got is the Euro sign! I suspect that the Euro character support has not yet made it into the Pagestream Amiga UK characterset support.

Anyway, in addition to a Pagestream document of any characters to be emulated on the Amiga, I also need a screenshot of the original character.

I'm revising the html using Sun Office running on Linux on a PC, so I am going to have to include images of all the glyphs and emulations to provide examples.

> >selectingtext.html

Uploaded

> Keep an eye out for anything that might need mention of
> table cells. Those files are unchanged, so you can use the ones in > the original archive I uploaded.
>

Sorry, I havn't a clue what you are talking about! Is this something to do with indexes or links?

>
> Take a look at Help on Help in softlogik.html. It takes you to
> HHVuser/navigating.html which covers the basics. It doesn't make reference
> to PGS User specific items, but they could probably be added there since
> all the manuals work the same. I could add the Help on Help button to the
> main user guide. How about we put it there?
>
I will have a look at this and get back to you.

Regards
Roy Leith

> > You mentioned the problem of screenshots. If someone needs to take new
> > screen shots, and they are not on the Mac, just go ahead and take a shot...
>Damn!

Relax, I wasn't pointing that at you!

> > >I would like to have a go at,
> > >
> > >usingtext.html
> > >selectingtext.html
>
>Uploaded. Has it survived the process?

Yes, all is well! I got it (and made some more changes to it and the other
fixing a couple other sections).

> > >charactersets.html
>
>I am making progress, but I need the following in order to give an example
>of how an unsupported character is simulated,
>
>A Pagestream document containing characters that are -not- available on my
>powerful Amiga computer. I already have access to acutes, graves, umlats,
>cedillas and those strange combinations of O and E etc. The only thing I
>can think of are the old symbols for Deutschmark and Franc, but I suppose
>all you have got is the Euro sign! I suspect that the Euro character
>support has not yet made it into the Pagestream Amiga UK characterset support.
>
>Anyway, in addition to a Pagestream document of any characters to be
>emulated on the Amiga, I also need a screenshot of the original character.

For an example, you can use a standard character that you _do_ have. For
example, just take a screen shot of an accented A, then a regular A. Not
sure if the CG engine on the Amiga will return more then 255 characters. If
so, you can use something >255 like S caron (0x015c) which might be
displayed in a CG font properly, but show as just a S in a Type1. (of
course, if the CG engine is crippled, then you won't get either...)

>I'm revising the html using Sun Office running on Linux on a PC, so I am
>going to have to include images of all the glyphs and emulations to
>provide examples.

Reminds me, one of the files you uploaded had the graphics paths localized
to your machine. I fixed them, but you might want to keep an eye on that in
the future (no big deal on my part)

> > Keep an eye out for anything that might need mention of
> > table cells. Those files are unchanged, so you can use the ones in >
> the original archive I uploaded.
>
>Sorry, I havn't a clue what you are talking about! Is this something to do
>with indexes or links?

I'm not talking about HTML tables, but the table features of PageStream.
Since PageStream's cells in tables are editing like a mini-text frame
(almost), there will be places that frames and text objects will be
mentioned that should also have table cells mentioned as well.

>Roy Leith

Thanks for the first submission!

While proofing your submissions (mostly for technical accuracy), I did
notice something that had not been documented in importing text, so looking
at the files one at a time also as they come back will help make the
documentation more thorough. No matter how many times I read PageStream
docs, I always think of something else that is not there.

Deron Kazmaier - support@grasshopperllc.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.grasshopperllc.com
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Macintosh, and Windows