Hi Deron,

Thanks for plugging away at this!

Unfortunately, no joy this time. The symptoms are again the same as
previously.

With my Pagestream4.prefs file in place (my 68K prefs file less everything
except first few lines of reg. info), booting into my "virgin" (ie. as
installed) OS4 Update4 partition, PgS4 gets past the splash window and
the vert. toolbox appears on the LHS, but nothing further. At this point
the GR is spitting out info on the serial in a loop, yet no GR GUI
appears as it normally would.

I am running PgS on a 512MB XE with the USB and DMA mods on the mobo.
Attached again are the SnoopDOS and GR logs.

Despite everything else, PgS should at least start properly on a virgin
Update4 install :^(.

--
Steve Bowman - Sydney, Australia

Everyone's heard of Erwin Schrodinger's famous thought experiment. You
put a cat in a box with a bottle of poison, which many people would
suggest is about as far as you need to go.

-- (Terry Pratchett, The Unadulterated Cat)

----------

Count Process Name Action Target Name Options Res.
----- ------------ ------ ----------- ------- ----
1 WBL ChangeDir DH2:Graphics/PageStreamPPC
2 WBL Lock DH2:Graphics/PageStreamPPC/PageStream4 Read OK
3 WBL Open DH2:Graphics/PageStreamPPC/PageStream4 Read OK
4 WBL Lock DH2:Graphics/PageStreamPPC/PageStream4 Read OK
5 WBL Lock SYS: Read OK
6 WBL ChangeDir SYSTEM-51.15:
7 PageStream4 ChangeDir DH2:Graphics/PageStreamPPC
8 PageStream4 Open CON:20/20/600/150/PageStream4 Output/AUTO/CLOSE/WAIT Write OK
9 CON FindSem NSDPatch (15.12.2005) OK
10 PageStream4 Open CONSOLE: Write OK
11 ramlib Open LIBS:SoftLogikOS.library Read Fail
12 ramlib Open LIBS:SoftLogikOS.library Read Fail
13 ramlib Open CLASSES:SoftLogikOS.library Read Fail
14 ramlib Open CLASSES:SoftLogikOS.library Read Fail
15 ramlib Open DH2:Graphics/PageStreamPPC/SoftLogikOS.library Read OK
16 ramlib Open NIL: Read OK
17 ramlib Open NIL: Write OK
18 PageStream4 FindSem NSDPatch (15.12.2005) OK
19 PageStream4 GetVar DEBUGMH Any Fail
20 PageStream4 FindVar DEBUGMH Local Fail
21 PageStream4 Lock ENV: Read OK
22 PageStream4 ChangeDir ENV:
23 PageStream4 Open ENVEBUGMH Read Fail
24 ENV Lock ENVARCEBUGMH Read Fail
25 PageStream4 ChangeDir DH2:Graphics/PageStreamPPC
26 ramlib Open LIBS:SoftLogikRsrc.library Read Fail
27 ramlib Open LIBS:SoftLogikRsrc.library Read Fail
28 ramlib Open CLASSES:SoftLogikRsrc.library Read Fail
29 ramlib Open CLASSES:SoftLogikRsrc.library Read Fail
30 ramlib Open DH2:Graphics/PageStreamPPC/SoftLogikRsrc.library Read OK
31 ramlib Open NIL: Read OK
32 ramlib Open NIL: Write OK
33 ramlib

<...snip...>

000 cmpwi cr6,r0,0
0142311C: 7F804840 cmplw cr7,r0,r9
01423120: 419C0014 blt- cr7,0x1423134
01423124: 419D0018 bgt- cr7,0x142313C
Stack pointer (0x02258A10) is inside bounds
Redzone is OK (4)

68k register dump
DATA: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

[etc. etc.]

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On 20/05/2006, on the subject of "[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Report on
4.1.8.2", I spoke thus:

> 325 PageStream4 RunCommand 4000 -141

I don't know if this is contributing towards the problem any, but isn't
the minimum stacksize for OS4 now 32768 bytes when running commands?
AIUI, dos.library should trap these and change it to the minimum value
anyway, but you never know.

--
Steve Bowman - Sydney, Australia

"Growl, growl."

-- Gaspode the wonder dog
(Terry Pratchett, Moving Pictures)

G'day Steve Bowman,

On 20/05/2006, on the subject of "[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Report on
4.1.8.2", you spoke thus:

> I am running PgS on a 512MB XE with the USB and DMA mods on the mobo.

Another thing, those logs are for when I booted without Petunia, to take
it out of the equation, but in my case it doesn't seem to make any
difference whether Petunia is running or not.

--
Steve Bowman - Sydney, Australia

A day ago the future had looked aching and desolate, and now it looked
full of surprises and terror and bad things happening to people... If she
had anything to do with it anyway.

-- Granny Weatherwax commits optimism
(Terry Pratchett, Maskerade)

Deron,

I just tried 5.0.3.2 OS4, and I also get the same results I've had
with the last few beta releases: vertical toolbar opens, along with
miniature project window, and immediate GR with mouse lock up and DSI
exception if I click "more" in the GR, requiring a hard reboot from
the case button.

I'm assuming this would probably work for me again if I booted from
the update 4 CD, but I haven't dug it out again. But booting from my
modified Workbench and from my standard OS4 installation on another
partition, I still get these results.

Do you want any SnoopDOS output from mine?

Paul

Your log shows that is failed trying to load the MUI class TextEditor. I
thought I had made that conditional, as I don't remember it being a
standard mui class. You say you have a pure update4 install. Does it have
that class? Just a shot...

Deron

>Hi Deron,
>
>Thanks for plugging away at this!
>
>Unfortunately, no joy this time. The symptoms are again the same as
>previously.
>
>With my Pagestream4.prefs file in place (my 68K prefs file less everything
>except first few lines of reg. info), booting into my "virgin" (ie. as
>installed) OS4 Update4 partition, PgS4 gets past the splash window and
>the vert. toolbox appears on the LHS, but nothing further. At this point
>the GR is spitting out info on the serial in a loop, yet no GR GUI
>appears as it normally would.
>
>I am running PgS on a 512MB XE with the USB and DMA mods on the mobo.
>Attached again are the SnoopDOS and GR logs.
>
>Despite everything else, PgS should at least start properly on a virgin
>Update4 install :^(.
>
>--
>Steve Bowman - Sydney, Australia

Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

>Deron,
>
>I just tried 5.0.3.2 OS4, and I also get the same results I've had
>with the last few beta releases: vertical toolbar opens, along with
>miniature project window, and immediate GR with mouse lock up and DSI
>exception if I click "more" in the GR, requiring a hard reboot from
>the case button.
>
>I'm assuming this would probably work for me again if I booted from
>the update 4 CD, but I haven't dug it out again. But booting from my
>modified Workbench and from my standard OS4 installation on another
>partition, I still get these results.
>
>Do you want any SnoopDOS output from mine?

That would be great, plus any output from grim reaper. But please send it
direct to me at support@pagestream.org.

Here are some things to try:

Run PageStream from a shell.
Try a larger stack size.
Check for mui TextEditor class.

>Paul

Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

I hardly ever run from WB. I'll play with that some, and why don't you try
running from a shell and see if that makes any difference.

>On 20/05/2006, on the subject of "[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Report on
>4.1.8.2", I spoke thus:
>
> > 325 PageStream4 RunCommand 4000 -141
>
>I don't know if this is contributing towards the problem any, but isn't
>the minimum stacksize for OS4 now 32768 bytes when running commands?
>AIUI, dos.library should trap these and change it to the minimum value
>anyway, but you never know.
>
>--
>Steve Bowman - Sydney, Australia

Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Hello PageStream,

On 05/19/2006, you wrote:
> Your log shows that is failed trying to load the MUI class
> TextEditor. I thought I had made that conditional, as I don't
> remember it being a standard mui class. You say you have a pure
> update4 install. Does it have that class? Just a shot...

I think that the MUI that comes with OS4 is not registered and thus
only has a few main classes. That could be part of the problem.

> Deron

>>Hi Deron,
>>
>>Thanks for plugging away at this!
>>
>>Unfortunately, no joy this time. The symptoms are again the same as
>>previously.
>>
>>With my Pagestream4.prefs file in place (my 68K prefs file less
>> everythingexcept first few lines of reg. info), booting into my
>> "virgin" (ie. asinstalled) OS4 Update4 partition, PgS4 gets past the
>> splash window andthe vert. toolbox appears on the LHS, but nothing
>> further. At this pointthe GR is spitting out info on the serial in
>> a loop, yet no GR GUIappears as it normally would.
>>
>>I am running PgS on a 512MB XE with the USB and DMA mods on the mobo.
>>Attached again are the SnoopDOS and GR logs.
>>
>>Despite everything else, PgS should at least start properly on a
>> virginUpdate4 install :^(.
>>
>>--
>>Steve Bowman - Sydney, Australia

> Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
> Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
> PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows
>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@nacs.net

Larry,

DLK> I think that the MUI that comes with OS4 is not registered and
DLK> thus
DLK> only has a few main classes. That could be part of the problem.

You're right about the OS4 install not having MUI TextEditor. But I
have version 15.17 of TextEditor.mcc and version 15.12 of
TextEditor.mcp on my normal boot partitiion. Both are OS4/PPC native
versions. Does Zerohero have newer ones at his site now?

Paul

>> Deron

>>>Hi Deron,
>>>
>>>Thanks for plugging away at this!
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, no joy this time. The symptoms are again the same
>>>as previously.
>>>
>>>With my Pagestream4.prefs file in place (my 68K prefs file less
>>> everythingexcept first few lines of reg. info), booting into my
>>> "virgin" (ie. asinstalled) OS4 Update4 partition, PgS4 gets past
>>> the splash window andthe vert. toolbox appears on the LHS, but
>>> nothing further. At this pointthe GR is spitting out info on the
>>> serial in a loop, yet no GR GUIappears as it normally would.
>>>
>>>I am running PgS on a 512MB XE with the USB and DMA mods on the
>>>mobo. Attached again are the SnoopDOS and GR logs.
>>>
>>>Despite everything else, PgS should at least start properly on a
>>> virginUpdate4 install :^(.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Steve Bowman - Sydney, Australia

>> Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
>> Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
>> PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows
>>
DLK> Talk to you later.
DLK> --
DLK> Dr. Larry Keller
DLK> Levin College of Urban Affairs
DLK> Cleveland State University
DLK> lkeller@nacs.net

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On 20/05/06, PageStream Support wrote:
> Your log shows that is failed trying to load the MUI class TextEditor.
> I thought I had made that conditional, as I don't remember it being a
> standard mui class. You say you have a pure update4 install. Does it
> have that class? Just a shot...

Is there a list of the MUI classes and versions required by PGS 5?

Wrong classes are often a source of trouble.

Regards
--
Don Cox
doncox@enterprise.net

Hello Paul,

On 05/20/2006, you wrote:
> Larry,

> DLK> I think that the MUI that comes with OS4 is not registered and
> DLK> thus
> DLK> only has a few main classes. That could be part of the
> problem.
> You're right about the OS4 install not having MUI TextEditor. But I
> have version 15.17 of TextEditor.mcc and version 15.12 of
> TextEditor.mcp on my normal boot partitiion. Both are OS4/PPC native
> versions. Does Zerohero have newer ones at his site now?

That is an excellent site for MUI programs. Wish there were a master
list of all MUI programs and the current version. Seems to be critical
for many programs. Do wish that Reaction would take over as that
should simplify the OS.

> Paul

>>> Deron

>>>>Hi Deron,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for plugging away at this!
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately, no joy this time. The symptoms are again the same
>>>>as previously.
>>>>
>>>>With my Pagestream4.prefs file in place (my 68K prefs file less
>>>> everythingexcept first few lines of reg. info), booting into my
>>>> "virgin" (ie. asinstalled) OS4 Update4 partition, PgS4 gets past
>>>> the splash window andthe vert. toolbox appears on the LHS, but
>>>> nothing further. At this pointthe GR is spitting out info on the
>>>> serial in a loop, yet no GR GUIappears as it normally would.
>>>>
>>>>I am running PgS on a 512MB XE with the USB and DMA mods on the
>>>>mobo. Attached again are the SnoopDOS and GR logs.
>>>>
>>>>Despite everything else, PgS should at least start properly on a
>>>> virginUpdate4 install :^(.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Steve Bowman - Sydney, Australia

>>> Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
>>> Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
>>> PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows
>>>
> DLK> Talk to you later.
> DLK> --
> DLK> Dr. Larry Keller
> DLK> Levin College of Urban Affairs
> DLK> Cleveland State University
> DLK> lkeller@nacs.net
>
Talk to you later.
--
Dr. Larry Keller
Levin College of Urban Affairs
Cleveland State University
lkeller@nacs.net

G'day PageStream Support,

On 20/05/2006, on the subject of "[PageStreamAmigaBeta] Re: Report on
4.1.8.2", you spoke thus:

> Your log shows that is failed trying to load the MUI class
> TextEditor. I thought I had made that conditional, as I don't
> remember it being a standard mui class. You say you have a pure
> update4 install. Does it have that class? Just a shot...

TextEditor.mcc is a third-party class and is not a part of OS4 MUI at all.
It is used by YAM and SimpleMail, amongst others.

My usual boot partition is my OS4 beta partition, which has many other
additions including TextEditor.mcc. The symptoms are similar with this
partition too, albeit the GR GUI does appear.

--
Steve Bowman - Sydney, Australia

"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards because a refusal often offends,
I read somewhere."

-- (Terry Pratchett, Mort)

> > Your log shows that is failed trying to load the MUI class TextEditor.
> > I thought I had made that conditional, as I don't remember it being a
> > standard mui class. You say you have a pure update4 install. Does it
> > have that class? Just a shot...
>
>Is there a list of the MUI classes and versions required by PGS 5?
>
>Wrong classes are often a source of trouble.

Besides the standard mui includes, that is the only extra class.

>Regards
>--
>Don Cox
>doncox@enterprise.net

Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows