Shoot! I uploaded the wrong version! I thought it was odd that the
length was exactly the same. When I built the new release I didn't
actually copy over the new application bundle!!!!

I'll get a new one uploaded in a few hours.

Sorry for your troubles,

Deron

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Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Yeh thanks Deron this is the new one!

--- In PageStreamMacintoshBeta@yahoogroups.com, PageStream Support <deron@...>
wrote:
>
> Shoot! I uploaded the wrong version! I thought it was odd that the
> length was exactly the same. When I built the new release I didn't
> actually copy over the new application bundle!!!!
>
> I'll get a new one uploaded in a few hours.
>
> Sorry for your troubles,
>
> Deron
>
> --
> Deron Kazmaier - support@...
> Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
> PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows
>

Hello Deron,

I also downloaded the wrong version (PGS 5.0.4.14) yesterday and had
a few problems with it so I was relieved to see the messages about it
being a wrong version.

I have now downloaded and installed PGS 5.0.4.15 and tried out a few
things which I will report on later but I am going away for the
weekend and before I do I should like to mention one point about the
mouse pointer.

No matter which tool you click on (text, magnifier, eyedropper or
whatever) the mouse pointer remains an arrowhead. The tools work OK
but you can't see which tool you are using. A bit confusing!.

With many thanks,

Cheerio,

Terence Casey

G4 PPC Mac running OS X 10.4.11

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Does anyone else have this problem? If you do, please tell me what
version of OS X you are using and if it is a PPC or Intel based Mac. Thanks!

This works fine for me, so I'll need a little help. This must be new
because someone had reported a problem earlier with the mouse pointer
being mangled on PPC and in the next release it was reported that it was
fixed.

Thanks for the report!

Deron

> No matter which tool you click on (text, magnifier, eyedropper or
> whatever) the mouse pointer remains an arrowhead. The tools work OK
> but you can't see which tool you are using. A bit confusing!.
>
> With many thanks,
>
> Cheerio,
>
> Terence Casey
>
> G4 PPC Mac running OS X 10.4.11
>
>

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Deron,
Thanks for all the hard work. I just downloaded the latest Mac version
of Pagestream. A few of observations.

1: The flyout tools work... but there is a 20 second or so delay after
startup before they start working. Once working they seem OK.
2: Selecting colors in the Line and File has lost the highlighting of
the selection as you move down the list. The selection works, you just
can't see what you're selecting. This occurs in both line and fill
color selection. Highlighting works normally in all other menu
selections associated with Line and Fill.
3: When you select a text object of any kind, the Type menu items are
all apparently enabled, the listing is in bold, but nothing works. I
recall that the earlier Amiga version allowed you to change text
attributes by selecting the text object and then making a selection
from the Type menu... are you planning on bringing this back? If not,
then the menu should remain ghosted unless the text tool is selected.
Insert DOES work and will replace everything in the text box with what
you have selected to insert... such as a page number or page or column
break. Strange... in testing the items in the Type Menu, I find that
it is very inconsistent... sometimes they work and sometimes they
don't . For example, I chose Type Outline... it changed to Outline...
but coming back after selecting another text box it wouldn't. I think
I have found the key to the inconsistency... if the text was
highlighted by the text tool before you returned to the pointer tool,
THEN the type menu will work on the text in the box, even though it
appears unselected. If the text gets unselected by selecting another
item, then it won't. AH! The insertion works where the insertion
cursor was left before going to the pointer tool... and if the text
were highlight THEN it replaces it with whatever is inserted ... if
none is selected then the inserted item will appear where ever the
insertion cursor was left... this needs to be fixed.
4: Rotation of a text box created with the tool box text box tool
causes some problems with the top line... it adds and takes away a
blank line depending on the angle of rotation.
5: Twisting produces a similar problem with the left and right margins
of the text.
6: Using the Smooth Path script results in a path that is in a box
that is -1168.6047" long. Resizing the box shows a line that bears no
relation to the original.
7: The Warp Text script seems to be a complicated way of achieving an
empty box... but then the text appears as a phantom text up at the
corner of the page when you move the page or twist, turn or rotate the
empty text box...

Thanks for smoothing the rotations... except for the things mention
with text above, it seems to work well.
Still need the larger toolbar icons ;^)>.

My set up... Macintosh PowerPC G5 Tower, 1.5 GB RAM, 20" Cinema
Display. OSX.5.2

Andrew Smith

Works as expected on my PPC G5 Tower.

Andrew

On FriApr 4, 2008 , at 3:04 PM, PageStream Support wrote:

> Does anyone else have this problem? If you do, please tell me what
> version of OS X you are using and if it is a PPC or Intel based Mac.
> Thanks!
>
> This works fine for me, so I'll need a little help. This must be new
> because someone had reported a problem earlier with the mouse pointer
> being mangled on PPC and in the next release it was reported that it
> was
> fixed.
>
> Thanks for the report!
>
> Deron
>
> > No matter which tool you click on (text, magnifier, eyedropper or
> > whatever) the mouse pointer remains an arrowhead. The tools work OK
> > but you can't see which tool you are using. A bit confusing!.
> >
> > With many thanks,
> >
> > Cheerio,
> >
> > Terence Casey
> >
> > G4 PPC Mac running OS X 10.4.11
> >
> >
>
> --
> Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
> Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
> PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows
>
>
>

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Hello Andrew,

> 1: The flyout tools work... but there is a 20 second or so delay after
> startup before they start working. Once working they seem OK.
>

I don't see any such delay. The flyouts don't work when they are
disabled, and they are disabled until a document is open. Could that be
the problem?

> 2: Selecting colors in the Line and File has lost the highlighting of
> the selection as you move down the list. The selection works, you just
> can't see what you're selecting. This occurs in both line and fill
> color selection. Highlighting works normally in all other menu
> selections associated with Line and Fill.
>

This appears to be a 10.5 thing. Should be fixed in the next release.

> 3: When you select a text object of any kind, the Type menu items are
> all apparently enabled, the listing is in bold, but nothing works. I
> recall that the earlier Amiga version allowed you to change text
> attributes by selecting the text object and then making a selection
> from the Type menu... are you planning on bringing this back?

Ah, you caught me! Yes, you remember the feature from pre 3.0 days. When
the code base was entirely rewritten for 3.0 that feature got lost
(along with a few others, most of which have already returned). I had
started implementing that "revived" feature before my grand move west
and forgot all about it while working here in SD.

So... not one to take another step back and remove the start of the
revived feature I went ahead and finished implementing it. It was a fun
change and not as hard as I had feared. Finished in 5.0.4.16!

> 4: Rotation of a text box created with the tool box text box tool
> causes some problems with the top line... it adds and takes away a
> blank line depending on the angle of rotation.
>

I don't see this.

> 5: Twisting produces a similar problem with the left and right margins
> of the text.
>

Nor this. Can you be more specific about what kind of blank line?

> 6: Using the Smooth Path script results in a path that is in a box
> that is -1168.6047" long. Resizing the box shows a line that bears no
> relation to the original.
>

Ah, figure it out! If you have a curve in your path it was created a
mangled path. No longer does this. FYI, this command is most useful for
large numbers of small line segments where it will curve fit them into
smooth curves. A simple path with a few lines will generally not yield
much if any change to the path.

> 7: The Warp Text script seems to be a complicated way of achieving an
> empty box... but then the text appears as a phantom text up at the
> corner of the page when you move the page or twist, turn or rotate the
> empty text box...
>

Works ok here! What kind of path are you using to warp the text? Ah, I
see if you select a single text object it will do this. You need to
select a text object and a path to warp within. This is now fixed a
couple ways. One, it won't let you do this and if you have the new
scripts commands it will actually warn you, and if you manage to try and
do this anyway it will ignore the malformed/missing textfx path and
still display the text without being warped/curved to a path.

> Thanks for smoothing the rotations... except for the things mention
> with text above, it seems to work well.
> Still need the larger toolbar icons ;^)>.
>

And I still need artistic talent Seriously, it is on the list. Until
then, you should still be able to rely on the text labels to help
distinguish the toolbar items.

Thanks for the feedback! I can't fix them if I don't know about them!!

Deron

> My set up... Macintosh PowerPC G5 Tower, 1.5 GB RAM, 20" Cinema
> Display. OSX.5.2
>
> Andrew Smith
>
>

--
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Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Hello Deron,

Thank you for your message of 4 Apr 2008, at 23:04.

The problem with the mouse pointer seems to have more or less
resolved itself. Most of the time the mouse pointer changes to the
appropriate form and only occasionally do I have the problem I was
experiencing earlier.

In view of the problems I was having with printing documents created
with PGS4 (PGS crashing and trashing printer connection) I decided to
recreate the document from scratch in PGS5.

I'm having problems inserting graphics into this new document. If I
try to copy and paste them from the original PGS4 document I see the
following: when pasting instead of the hairline corner mark which
usually appears I see a small black square of about the same size. If
I drag this across the page as I usually do to place the graphic a
dotted box appears as usual but when I release the mouse button it
disappears and no graphic appears. The dotted box is roughly the
right size and shape (i.e. a tall thin box for a tall graphic and a
squarish box for a square graphic) so the copy/paste action is
picking something up – but not the actual graphic itself.

So I tried 'Insert graphic' instead with similar results. A dotted
box appears but disappears when the mouse button is released.

These are the same graphics that I used in the PGS4 version of the
document and are in the same folders on my computer from which I
placed them in that document.

FONTS

I have tried out a few fonts with the following results:

'Helvetica Regular' and 'Times Regular' display OK and print OK but
ligatures are not displayed or printed.
The ligatures are displayed and printed OK in 'Times New Roman Regular'.

'ITC Avant Garde Gothic Extra Light' , 'Helvetica Neue Extra Light'
and 'Brush Script' display OK but print as 'Courier'.

All the above display and print OK from PGS4.

The following display and print OK from PGS5:

'Arial Black', 'Abrazo Script SSi Normal', 'Benguiat Frisky', 'Gill
Sans (Regular, Light and Bold - both normal and italic)', 'Courier
Regular', 'Decca Display SSi'and 'Apple Chancery'.

I have not had time to try out anything other than a small selection
of the fonts I have but these are the ones I use most often.

I have never had a problem with fonts either displaying or printing
from PGS4.

With many thanks,

Cheerio,

Terence Casey

G4 PPC Mac running OS X 10.4.11

-----------------------------------------------------------

> Does anyone else have this problem? If you do, please tell me what
> version of OS X you are using and if it is a PPC or Intel based
> Mac. Thanks!
>
> This works fine for me, so I'll need a little help. This must be new
> because someone had reported a problem earlier with the mouse pointer
> being mangled on PPC and in the next release it was reported that
> it was
> fixed.
>
> Thanks for the report!
>
> Deron
>
> > No matter which tool you click on (text, magnifier, eyedropper or
> > whatever) the mouse pointer remains an arrowhead. The tools work OK
> > but you can't see which tool you are using. A bit confusing!.
> >
> > With many thanks,
> >
> > Cheerio,
> >
> > Terence Casey
> >
> > G4 PPC Mac running OS X 10.4.11
> >
>
>

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Hello Terence,

> The problem with the mouse pointer seems to have more or less
> resolved itself. Most of the time the mouse pointer changes to the
> appropriate form and only occasionally do I have the problem I was
> experiencing earlier.
>

If you notice something that screws up the mouse pointer, please let me
know. For example, I found that the export graphic dialog screwed up the
mouse pointer (of course fixed for next release). This fix should fix
the same problem in some other dialogs as well.

> I'm having problems inserting graphics into this new document.

All of these problems seem to stem from not having Place In Center
turned on. The click/drag paste/import appears broken. I'll get it fixed
for next release. Until then, turn Place in Center on in file preferences.

> FONTS
>
> I have tried out a few fonts with the following results:
>
> 'Helvetica Regular' and 'Times Regular' display OK and print OK but
> ligatures are not displayed or printed.
>

A bug was found in code that could cause this. Please retest in the next
release.

> 'ITC Avant Garde Gothic Extra Light' , 'Helvetica Neue Extra Light'
> and 'Brush Script' display OK but print as 'Courier'.
>

Well, I don't have these specific fonts, but I have other choices from
the same families and they all printed ok for me. Please retest these
also with the next release.

> Cheerio,
>
> Terence Casey
>
> G4 PPC Mac running OS X 10.4.11
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
>

Thank you for your feedback,

Deron

--
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Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Hello Deron,

Thank you for your message of 12 Apr 2008, at 00:26.

Many thanks for your speedy and helpfiul reply. I feel we are really
getting somewhere now.

Placing graphics now works OK. They appear in the centre of the page
and I then have to resize them and move them to where I want them.
Also after placing the graphic the mouse pointer appears as a text
cursor whereas it should be an arrow.

Also there is a glitch with 'Fill & Screen'. On the screen 'Box'
pressing 'Tab' moves the cursor UP from 'Frequency' to 'Type' instead
of DOWN from 'Frequency' to 'Angle'.

With all these changes I have now been able to reconstruct the basic
template for my magazine. (Front page title & graphics, page
numbers, columns etc) The only thing I would comment on is that the
column outlines are much too feint on the screen (At least to my old
eyes!) But this is probably just a matter of opinion.

Also it all prints fine.

However we then hit a big snag. I can't copy and paste any text from
'AppleWorks' which is my usual method of working when I am using PGS
4. I can see the rext on the clipboard and paste it into any other
application but not into PGS 5.

Thank you for your comments about fonts. I tried to make a complete
list of fonts but could not print it so I won't be trying anything
else until the next release comes out.

With many thanks,

Cheerio,

Terence Casey

G4 PPC Mac running OS X 10.4.11

----------------------------------------

> Hello Terence,
>
> > The problem with the mouse pointer seems to have more or less
> > resolved itself. Most of the time the mouse pointer changes to the
> > appropriate form and only occasionally do I have the problem I was
> > experiencing earlier.
> >
>
> If you notice something that screws up the mouse pointer, please
> let me
> know. For example, I found that the export graphic dialog screwed
> up the
> mouse pointer (of course fixed for next release). This fix should fix
> the same problem in some other dialogs as well.
>
> > I'm having problems inserting graphics into this new document.
>
> All of these problems seem to stem from not having Place In Center
> turned on. The click/drag paste/import appears broken. I'll get it
> fixed
> for next release. Until then, turn Place in Center on in file
> preferences.
>
> > FONTS
> >
> > I have tried out a few fonts with the following results:
> >
> > 'Helvetica Regular' and 'Times Regular' display OK and print OK but
> > ligatures are not displayed or printed.
> >
>
> A bug was found in code that could cause this. Please retest in the
> next
> release.
>
> > 'ITC Avant Garde Gothic Extra Light' , 'Helvetica Neue Extra Light'
> > and 'Brush Script' display OK but print as 'Courier'.
> >
>
> Well, I don't have these specific fonts, but I have other choices from
> the same families and they all printed ok for me. Please retest these
> also with the next release.
>
> > Cheerio,
> >
> > Terence Casey
> >
> > G4 PPC Mac running OS X 10.4.11
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>
> Thank you for your feedback,
>
> Deron
>

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Hello Terence,

> Also there is a glitch with 'Fill & Screen'. On the screen 'Box'
> pressing 'Tab' moves the cursor UP from 'Frequency' to 'Type' instead
> of DOWN from 'Frequency' to 'Angle'.
>

That works ok here, but shift-tab doesn't go in reverse. That I fixed,
and it could cause this problem.

> With all these changes I have now been able to reconstruct the basic
> template for my magazine. (Front page title & graphics, page
> numbers, columns etc) The only thing I would comment on is that the
> column outlines are much too feint on the screen (At least to my old
> eyes!) But this is probably just a matter of opinion.
>

It should already be 2x darker in the next release.
> However we then hit a big snag. I can't copy and paste any text from
> 'AppleWorks' which is my usual method of working when I am using PGS
> 4. I can see the rext on the clipboard and paste it into any other
> application but not into PGS 5.
>

This is because no where is there documentation that defines what should
or should not be put on the clipboard. I support the things that apps on
my computer put in the clipboard, but I don't have Apple Works. Try this
from the macintosh readme: (The only caveat is that the release you have
will put the debug output in the application bundle. Just right click on
the bundle to open up so you can find it)

+ If something doesn't paste into PageStream, please run PageStream with
the instructions below (TO GENERATE DEBUG OUTPUT) and try and paste
something in the clipboard from another application that doesn't work.
PageStream will dump to the debug file what formats it does find in the
clipboard.

TO GENERATE DEBUG OUTPUT
------------------------
If you put the lines "DEBUG SHOWFONTS" and "DEBUGFILE" (no quotes, each
to its own line at the end of the file) in your PageStream5.prefs file
(~/Library/Application%20Support/PageStream5/PageStream5.prefs) , then
run PageStream, it will create a debug file called AppDebug.txt in the
same location as the PageStream5.prefs file. If you can send that to me
it will at least help identify what could be wrong.

Thanks!

Deron

--
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Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Hello Deron,

I am having difficulty in getting 'Link Text Frames' to work properly.

I create a number of text frames and then try to link them by
clicking sequentially in each text frame in order.

After completing this operation, only the last two text frames are
linked.

With many thanks,

Cheerio,

Terence Casey

Hello Terence,

That is odd. I've played with it and had no problems. Can anyone else
reproduce a problem with this? I don't doubt your problem, just curious
what the root cause is.

Deron

> Hello Deron,
>
> I am having difficulty in getting 'Link Text Frames' to work properly.
>
> I create a number of text frames and then try to link them by
> clicking sequentially in each text frame in order.
>
> After completing this operation, only the last two text frames are
> linked.
>
> With many thanks,
>
> Cheerio,
>
> Terence Casey
>
>

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows