Jeff Krispow
From: United States
Registered: 2006-02-06
Posts: 19
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Hi Deron,
I've been having an issue with the SAVE AS PDF expore feature, that I thought I should bring to your attention.
Text and object colors in the PDF file do not match those in my original PgS document. All colors are being rendered out "darker" in the PDF file. (I also attempted various combinations of the "compression" settings to see if that fixed anything, but had no success.)
The reason I'm sending in this report is because I recall that some colors were rendered slightly betters when using earlier betas of PgS. But "something" changed somewhere around 5.0.4.15 or so -- a fancy-schmancy document title I created just with some overlaying text, line and fills used to look "okay" when rendered out to PDF, and suddenly it looked like dark mush. And still did when I rendered it out with this new version of PgS. I figured since the issue was still there, I'd send in this report -- hopefully some of my findings will help improve the color output issue.
Just as a quick example, here are some of the color difference that occured when rendering out one of my document via SAVE AS PDF (using standard RGB values):
PgS Blue (0, 0, 255) renders as PDF Midnight Blue (32, 25, 106) PgS Blue 50% (128, 128, 255) = PDF Slate Grey (108, 96, 160) PgS Dark Blue (0, 0, 139) = PDF Dark Slate Gray (55, 48, 83) PgS Red (255, 0, 0) = PDF Crimson (213, 0, 0) Pgs Gold (255, 215, 0) = PDF Goldenrod (249, 201, 0) PgS Yellow (255, 255, 0) = PDF Yellow (255, 245, 0)
As you can see, there are some rather noticeable changes going on here. I spent much of this afternoon doing additional testing of the SAVE AS PDF feature color output without much success. I tried all the various combinations of Compression options during save to see if that affected the color rendering, but had no success other than discovering other bugs with PgS.
One such bugs is that shape fills are not rendering out correctly via SAVE AS PDF either -- however, I cannot recall if these ever worked previously. Currently, shape fills are rendering out to PDF as a solid fill, defaulting to whatever the first FILL Color is (i..e, a Blue to Yellow shape fill renders to PDF as a solid Blue). Just as an FYI, the same color changes occur with the shape fills when rendering to PDF as previous stated.
That one positive note I can provide is that imported graphic files were always rendered properly -- I've never noticed any changes in the color palette with graphic files I've used to date.
Another major problem that repeatedly occurred to me today was that with PgS v5.0.4.20 I was unable tio EVER use the SAVE AS PDF feature twice without having PgS crash. It didn't matter if I changed some of the document, or even closed the file and reopened the document again (or a new doc). Trying to use SAVE AS PDF twice during a PgS session resulted in a crash -- PgS would begin creating the PODF file, but it would crash out at some point during the process. I would have to Quit PgS and restart it after each SAVE TO PDF attempt. This definitely wasn't an issue with versions 5.0.4..18 and earlier, but is certainly occurring now with my 5.0.4.20.
I wanted to do a bit more testing of the color changes in the PDF rendering, so I created a test doc consisting of 17 square objects, each one filled with one of the 17 different fill color listed in the PgS color palette. Here are the results (using standard RGB values as gathered by a Color Picker program...):
PgS Black (0, 0, 0) = PDF Black (20, 20, 20) PgS White (255, 255, 255 ) = PDF White (~235, 235, 235) + (255, 255, 255) -- all whites appears to have small pixel areas ranging from (235, 235, 235) to (241, 241, 241) with the majority at (255, 255, 255) PgS Blue (0, 0, 255 ) = PDF Midnight Blue (32, 25, 106) PgS Brown (117, 81, 22) = PDF Dark Olive Green (107, 95, 67) PgS Cyan (0, 255, 255 ) = PDF Dodger Blue (0, 146, 220) PgS Green (0, 255, 0 ) = PDF Forest Green (0, 142, 57) -- this also varies a bit in the color swatch, with small pixel difference ranging from (0, 134, 53) to (0, 142, 57), with the majority at (0, 142, 57) PgS Lavender (198, 140, 244) = PDF Rosy Brown (176, 125, 167) PgS Lime (170, 255, 6 = PDF Dark Khaki (149, 204, 82) PgS Magenta (255, 0, 255) = PDF Medium Violet Red (214, 0, 103) PgS Mustard (255, 221, 94) = PDF Sandy Brown (249, 210, 83) PgS Orange (255, 127, 0) = PDF Chocolate (233, 120, 0) PgS Peach (242, 178, 45) = PDF Sandy Brown (230, 169, 45) PgS Pink (255, 191, 255) = PDF Pink (242, 185, 203) PgS Purple (178, 51, 255) = PDF Dark Magenta (152, 51, 126) PgS Red (255, 0, 0) = PDF Crimson (213. 0, 0) PgS Violet (63, 51, 255) = PDF Dark Slate Blue (69, 50, 125) PgS Yellow (255, 255, 0) = PDF Yellow (255, 245. 0)
I only listed a couple of color swatches where there were "larger" variations in color throuighout the swatch (rather like dithering, but invisible to the eye). In actuality, all of the swatches had some minor pixel areas with slightly different RGB values. Shouldn't solid colors contain the same RGB values for all pixels in the swatch after rendering to PDF?
In any event, should you wish to see my original PgS Fill Test doc and the resulting PDF output, just let me know where to send it....
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On a separate note, when creating my test doc for the fill color issues, I also discovered a new problem with LINE & FILL -- the FILL attribute is broken. You now cannot properly change just the LINE attribute for multiple filled objects.
I wanted to add a .5pt line around the 17 square box objects on my test doc, each of which had a different fill color. Went through the usual moves - Apple-A (Select All), "L" to bring up LINE & FILL, selected "Stroked". changed my Line options, and pressed OK. All my boxes now had a .5pt line around them... and also all changed to a Yellow fill! Definitely not what I wanted!
I then discovered I could not UNDO this change; PgS wouldn't let me. Instead I had to revert back to my saved doc to try again. (This UNDO issue was repeatable each time after I had a LINE & FILL: attribute mishap. PgS would not UNDO it, and the Edit Menu options listed "Can't Undo".)
I went through the motions again, made my Line change, but this time also examined the FILL section. I quickly saw what the problems were. First off, the "Stroked": checkbox contained a Checkmark rather than the expected "-" (hyphen) to signify multiple attributes were present. Also, the "Color" field listed "Yellow" (which was the color of the final box object created on my doc) rather than "<MIXED>".
So basically, the FILL section is broken with regard to multiple object attributes. I tried to manually select <MIXED> in the Color Field, but that didn't work (all my boxes still changed to a Yellow fill).
However, I did test the LINE attribute, and that DOES work as it should.
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Well, that be it for now, Deron...
Sorry for the length of this posting, but I hope the detailed info proves helpful in some manner.
Once again, thanks for all the hard work you're doing on our OSX version -- it's very much appreciated! As always, can't wait to see the new updated...
Best wishes, Jeff Krispow
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