when I click on the new page icon in the navigator, or try getting a
dialog via file>new... it just brings up a blank page (not sure what
size), so there's no choice of page size or orientation - in other
words: no dialog box!

I downloaded version 5.0.4.26

I hope it can be sorted soon.
Heather.

Hi Heather,

That is one of the user interface issues that are being tweaked in the
latest releases for the Mac and which are not updated in the documentation.

Two things you can do. One, after creating (or loading) a document, you
can change master page size in the Master Page Setup dialog and change
the default size as well.

The other is to simple hold down the shift key when choosing New
Document or clicking the New button in the navigator. In prior versions,
this was reversed. No shift got you the dialog, shift created the
default size document.

Hope that is clear and helps,

Deron

> when I click on the new page icon in the navigator, or try getting a
> dialog via file>new... it just brings up a blank page (not sure what
> size), so there's no choice of page size or orientation - in other
> words: no dialog box!
>
> I downloaded version 5.0.4.26
>
> I hope it can be sorted soon.
> Heather.
>
>

Thanks Deron big relief.

--- In PageStreamMacintoshBeta@yahoogroups.com, Deron Kazmaier
<deron@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Heather,
>
> That is one of the user interface issues that are being tweaked in the
> latest releases for the Mac and which are not updated in the
documentation.
>
> Two things you can do. One, after creating (or loading) a document, you
> can change master page size in the Master Page Setup dialog and change
> the default size as well.
>
> The other is to simple hold down the shift key when choosing New
> Document or clicking the New button in the navigator. In prior
versions,
> this was reversed. No shift got you the dialog, shift created the
> default size document.
>
> Hope that is clear and helps,
>
> Deron
>
> > when I click on the new page icon in the navigator, or try getting a
> > dialog via file>new... it just brings up a blank page (not sure what
> > size), so there's no choice of page size or orientation - in other
> > words: no dialog box!
> >
> > I downloaded version 5.0.4.26
> >
> > I hope it can be sorted soon.
> > Heather.
> >
> >
>

Hi Deron:

Hope life's been treating you well these days!

I've got a quick question for you regarding Templates -- unless I've
really overlooked somethong somewhere, there doesn't seem to be any
way of actually OPENING up any user-created templates, the Direct
Templates or Home&Office forms.

I've noticed that there's an "OpenTemplate.py" script buried in /
Contents/SharedSupport/Scripts/WIP/, but it doesn't work. I'm assuming
the WIP is "Work in Progress".

In the meantime, is there any new easy method of opening and or
selectng templates other than opening up the package, then hunting
through the hundreds of templates entries hoping to find the "correct"
one?

Also regarding scripting...

For the longest time, in Preferences/Editors/, the three "Send to
Scripts" listed as defaults are for specific Amiga editors, none of
which have on the Mac. While I understand this, some people new to the
Mac and/or PageStream may not, and may be confused when they try to
find said programs. Additionally, in the current v5.0.4.27, these
scripts don't exist, so anyone using a "Send To Editor" in their
default form will get nowhere. Just an FYI.

Checking out the PgS package, I've noticed that in the aforementioned
"WIP" script directory contains scripts for Send To: BME, PageLiner,
ProVector and TurboText. Again, we don't have these on the Mac -- as
such, any chance that we can get some Mac specific scripts instead?

I've tried using using the included SendPictureToEditor.py and
SendTextToEditor.py scripts. It seems that the SendPictureToEditor.py
attempts to send to PhotoShop as default (which is great), and it
works fine; also changed the script and tried out GraphicConverter and
also worked fine.

However, I had no success with the SendTextToEditor.py script. It
appears to be trying to send text to something called Nedit (which
I've never heard of), but I changed the script to BBedit and even just
the standard TextEdit and had no success. The programs DO start up,
but the text is not being transferred into the text editor.

In any event, it would be nice if we had a standard selecton of other
popular Mac graphic and text editors to choose from if you (or someone
else) is up to the task. (Unfortunately, my Python programming skills
are essentially nil, so I can't help like I'd like to).

If I may make a suggestion, it would be terrific if we could have a
just one python script each for graphic and text, but which would
handle several different popular editors; i.e., when we use the
script, it would pop up a requester asking which program we want to
send the graphic to (PhotoShop, GraphicConverter, etc.), and even
possibly a "default" button so it would remember the user's choice.
Same for text...

Hope that all made some sense...

Anyway, thanks again Deron for the PageStream updates... it's looking
ever better with each new update!

Regards,

Jeff Krispow
jeff@laserrot.com

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello Everyone,

Can anyone tell me how to type an 'en space' and an 'em space' in PGS
(Mac) 5.0.4.27 please?

With many thanks,

Cheerio,

Terence Casey

G4 PPC Mac running OS X 10.4.11

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Terence,

Try control-d n [space] or control-d m [space]

For more information, take a look at
http://www.pagestream.org/showdocs.php?id=127

> Hello Everyone,
>
> Can anyone tell me how to type an 'en space' and an 'em space' in PGS
> (Mac) 5.0.4.27 please?
>
> With many thanks,
>
> Cheerio,
>
> Terence Casey
>
> G4 PPC Mac running OS X 10.4.11
>
>

--
Happy Trails,
Deron Kazmaier deron@dogstarkennel.com
KD0AYO Western South Dakota
Dog Star Kennelhttp://www.dogstarkennel.com
--- Racing AKC Sepp-Star Seppala Siberian Husky Sled Dogs

Hi Terence,

Try control-d n [space] or control-d m [space]

For more information, take a look at
http://www.pagestream.org/showdocs.php?id=127

Deron

> Hello Everyone,
>
> Can anyone tell me how to type an 'en space' and an 'em space' in PGS
> (Mac) 5.0.4.27 please?
>
> With many thanks,
>
> Cheerio,
>
> Terence Casey
>
> G4 PPC Mac running OS X 10.4.11
>
>

--
Deron Kazmaier - support@pagestream.org
Grasshopper LLC Publishing -http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows

Hi Deron...

Sorry to send this mess again, but it looks like it was accidentally
skipped over somewhere along the line.

One update: Just after I sent the previous, I suddenly remembered that
user-created templates open as normal documents (duh!). I think I'll
blame that brain fart on the suddenly soaring temperatures here in
Los Angeles which are causing overheated cerebellums everywhere...

But I still can't figure any way around the Paper Direct/Home & Office
Forms issues.

Thanks!

=========

> Hi Deron:
>
> Hope life's been treating you well these days!
>
> I've got a quick question for you regarding Templates -- unless I've
> really overlooked somethong somewhere, there doesn't seem to be any
> way of actually OPENING up any user-created templates, the Direct
> Templates or Home&Office forms.
>
> I've noticed that there's an "OpenTemplate.py" script buried in /
> Contents/SharedSupport/Scripts/WIP/, but it doesn't work. I'm assuming
> the WIP is "Work in Progress".
>
> In the meantime, is there any new easy method of opening and or
> selectng templates other than opening up the package, then hunting
> through the hundreds of templates entries hoping to find the "correct"
> one?
>
> Also regarding scripting...
>
> For the longest time, in Preferences/Editors/, the three "Send to
> Scripts" listed as defaults are for specific Amiga editors, none of
> which have on the Mac. While I understand this, some people new to the
> Mac and/or PageStream may not, and may be confused when they try to
> find said programs. Additionally, in the current v5.0.4.27, these
> scripts don't exist, so anyone using a "Send To Editor" in their
> default form will get nowhere. Just an FYI.
>
> Checking out the PgS package, I've noticed that in the aforementioned
> "WIP" script directory contains scripts for Send To: BME, PageLiner,
> ProVector and TurboText. Again, we don't have these on the Mac -- as
> such, any chance that we can get some Mac specific scripts instead?
>
> I've tried using using the included SendPictureToEditor.py and
> SendTextToEditor.py scripts. It seems that the SendPictureToEditor.py
> attempts to send to PhotoShop as default (which is great), and it
> works fine; also changed the script and tried out GraphicConverter and
> also worked fine.
>
> However, I had no success with the SendTextToEditor.py script. It
> appears to be trying to send text to something called Nedit (which
> I've never heard of), but I changed the script to BBedit and even just
> the standard TextEdit and had no success. The programs DO start up,
> but the text is not being transferred into the text editor.
>
> In any event, it would be nice if we had a standard selecton of other
> popular Mac graphic and text editors to choose from if you (or someone
> else) is up to the task. (Unfortunately, my Python programming skills
> are essentially nil, so I can't help like I'd like to).
>
> If I may make a suggestion, it would be terrific if we could have a
> just one python script each for graphic and text, but which would
> handle several different popular editors; i.e., when we use the
> script, it would pop up a requester asking which program we want to
> send the graphic to (PhotoShop, GraphicConverter, etc.), and even
> possibly a "default" button so it would remember the user's choice.
> Same for text...
>
> Hope that all made some sense...
>
> Anyway, thanks again Deron for the PageStream updates... it's looking
> ever better with each new update!
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff Krispow
> jeff@laserrot.com
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Jeff,

No idea what was skipped over. I thought I answered this, but maybe not.
Sure seems familiar...

> Hi Deron...
>
> Sorry to send this mess again, but it looks like it was accidentally
> skipped over somewhere along the line.
>
> One update: Just after I sent the previous, I suddenly remembered that
> user-created templates open as normal documents (duh!). I think I'll
> blame that brain fart on the suddenly soaring temperatures here in
> Los Angeles which are causing overheated cerebellums everywhere...
>

Yes, they open as normal documents, but the file path is zeroed and you
have to specify a new file name to save as.
> But I still can't figure any way around the Paper Direct/Home & Office
> Forms issues.
>

Home & Office file names should be self explanatory and the Paper Direct
templates are matched to Paper Direct papers.

Deron

> Thanks!
>
>
>
> =========
>
>
>
>
>> Hi Deron:
>>
>> Hope life's been treating you well these days!
>>
>> I've got a quick question for you regarding Templates -- unless I've
>> really overlooked somethong somewhere, there doesn't seem to be any
>> way of actually OPENING up any user-created templates, the Direct
>> Templates or Home&Office forms.
>>
>> I've noticed that there's an "OpenTemplate.py" script buried in /
>> Contents/SharedSupport/Scripts/WIP/, but it doesn't work. I'm assuming
>> the WIP is "Work in Progress".
>>
>> In the meantime, is there any new easy method of opening and or
>> selectng templates other than opening up the package, then hunting
>> through the hundreds of templates entries hoping to find the "correct"
>> one?
>>
>> Also regarding scripting...
>>
>> For the longest time, in Preferences/Editors/, the three "Send to
>> Scripts" listed as defaults are for specific Amiga editors, none of
>> which have on the Mac. While I understand this, some people new to the
>> Mac and/or PageStream may not, and may be confused when they try to
>> find said programs. Additionally, in the current v5.0.4.27, these
>> scripts don't exist, so anyone using a "Send To Editor" in their
>> default form will get nowhere. Just an FYI.
>>
>> Checking out the PgS package, I've noticed that in the aforementioned
>> "WIP" script directory contains scripts for Send To: BME, PageLiner,
>> ProVector and TurboText. Again, we don't have these on the Mac -- as
>> such, any chance that we can get some Mac specific scripts instead?
>>
>> I've tried using using the included SendPictureToEditor.py and
>> SendTextToEditor.py scripts. It seems that the SendPictureToEditor.py
>> attempts to send to PhotoShop as default (which is great), and it
>> works fine; also changed the script and tried out GraphicConverter and
>> also worked fine.
>>
>> However, I had no success with the SendTextToEditor.py script. It
>> appears to be trying to send text to something called Nedit (which
>> I've never heard of), but I changed the script to BBedit and even just
>> the standard TextEdit and had no success. The programs DO start up,
>> but the text is not being transferred into the text editor.
>>
>> In any event, it would be nice if we had a standard selecton of other
>> popular Mac graphic and text editors to choose from if you (or someone
>> else) is up to the task. (Unfortunately, my Python programming skills
>> are essentially nil, so I can't help like I'd like to).
>>
>> If I may make a suggestion, it would be terrific if we could have a
>> just one python script each for graphic and text, but which would
>> handle several different popular editors; i.e., when we use the
>> script, it would pop up a requester asking which program we want to
>> send the graphic to (PhotoShop, GraphicConverter, etc.), and even
>> possibly a "default" button so it would remember the user's choice.
>> Same for text...
>>
>> Hope that all made some sense...
>>
>> Anyway, thanks again Deron for the PageStream updates... it's looking
>> ever better with each new update!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jeff Krispow
>> jeff@laserrot.com
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

--
Happy Trails,
Deron Kazmaier deron@dogstarkennel.com
KD0AYO Western South Dakota
Dog Star Kennelhttp://www.dogstarkennel.com
--- Racing AKC Sepp-Star Seppala Siberian Husky Sled Dogs

Hello Deron,

Thank you for your message of 8 Oct 2008, at 17:35.

Thank you for your usual prompt an helpful reply. It works OK but, so
far, only with Helvetica.

Arial, which I mostly use, and Times give an open square box instead
of a space.

With many thanks,

Cheerio,

Terence Casey

---------------------------------------------------------------------

> Hi Terence,
>
> Try control-d n [space] or control-d m [space]
>
> For more information, take a look at
>http://www.pagestream.org/showdocs.php?id=127
>
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Can anyone tell me how to type an 'en space' and an 'em space' in
> PGS
> > (Mac) 5.0.4.27 please?
> >
> > With many thanks,
> >
> > Cheerio,
> >
> > Terence Casey
> >
> > G4 PPC Mac running OS X 10.4.11
> >
> >
>
> --
> Happy Trails,
> Deron Kazmaier deron@dogstarkennel.com
> KD0AYO Western South Dakota
> Dog Star Kennelhttp://www.dogstarkennel.com
> --- Racing AKC Sepp-Star Seppala Siberian Husky Sled Dogs
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Terence,

I can't make font designers do a good job I am surprised how many
fonts don't have these characters or have them wrong, but they do exist
in some fonts.

Helvetica is actually wrong here (gives the same spacing for
enspace/emspace and space) but DejaVu Sans is correct for example. A
high dollar Adobe font doesn't have the character defined at all. Funny.

If a font is wrong, you can 1) fix the font, 2) use a different font 3)
dont' use the character. Sorry I don't have a better answer for you.

Deron

> Hello Deron,
>
> Thank you for your message of 8 Oct 2008, at 17:35.
>
> Thank you for your usual prompt an helpful reply. It works OK but, so
> far, only with Helvetica.
>
> Arial, which I mostly use, and Times give an open square box instead
> of a space.
>
> With many thanks,
>
> Cheerio,
>
> Terence Casey
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>> Hi Terence,
>>
>> Try control-d n [space] or control-d m [space]
>>
>> For more information, take a look at
>>http://www.pagestream.org/showdocs.php?id=127
>>
>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me how to type an 'en space' and an 'em space' in
>>>
>> PGS
>>
>>> (Mac) 5.0.4.27 please?
>>>
>>> With many thanks,
>>>
>>> Cheerio,
>>>
>>> Terence Casey
>>>
>>> G4 PPC Mac running OS X 10.4.11
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Happy Trails,
>> Deron Kazmaier deron@dogstarkennel.com
>> KD0AYO Western South Dakota
>> Dog Star Kennelhttp://www.dogstarkennel.com
>> --- Racing AKC Sepp-Star Seppala Siberian Husky Sled Dogs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

--
Happy Trails,
Deron Kazmaier deron@dogstarkennel.com
KD0AYO Western South Dakota
Dog Star Kennelhttp://www.dogstarkennel.com
--- Racing AKC Sepp-Star Seppala Siberian Husky Sled Dogs